While Cingular slept

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "bainer" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > AT&T Wireless stores will be re-branded (at least on the inside) by
November
> > 15. The funny thing is that they haven't hired any outside help to make
the
> > switch. Store employees will be doing all the work.
>
> And then fired.
>

Actually, in most markets, retail employees are gauranteed their jobs for
700 days.

Big part of the merger agreement.

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"Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Who cares if it takes days, weeks or months. It is no big deal. Get
> over it.
>


But it's a conspiracy!!!

Can't you see that!!!

This so called "merger" is a complete farce. It's all being controlled by
the Illuminati and the Zionists as away to disrupt the grand Socialist
agenda set forth by the new Democrtaic party along with the Council on
Foreign Relations.

I would almost take bets that we can find a link to Haliburton and Cheney in
all of this as well. Oh and you know the Saudis must be profiting from this
so called "merger".

First they came for CDMA,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't with Verizon Wireless.

Then they came for IDen,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't with Nextel.

Then they came for PCS Vision,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't with Sprint .

Then they came for me and my GSM,
and by that time there was no one
left to save me.

It's a conspiracy I tell you!!!!

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In article <[email protected]>,
"Shaolin Superfly" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:
> >
> > > >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all the
> signs.
> > > The only difference was a dry ***** in our ability to buy beer from the
> store
> > > while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.
> > >
> > > No other changes have taken place.
> > >
> > > I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I see
> > > there!
> >
> >
> > In Texas Eckerd stores are either:
> >
> > closed empty shells, with all signage gone, and merchandize now
> > being closed out at BIG LOTS or
> >
> > are now CVS stores, with all Eckerd signage gone, or hidden behind CVS
> > signs.
>
>
> You're a lying sack of dog piss too.
>
> Here in San Antonio, TEXAS the Eckerd stores still haven't changed their
> signage.
>
> BTW the signage on ATTW stores will be changing on the 14th after close.

And calling someone names doesn't make Cingular any more prepared. They
had 6 months to make signs.

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:20:45 -0600, "Shaolin Superfly"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>You're a lying sack of dog piss too.

Now *there's* a vision! What kind of sacks do they use? I hope not
burlap.

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In article <[email protected]>,
Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:20:45 -0600, "Shaolin Superfly"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You're a lying sack of dog piss too.
>
> Now *there's* a vision! What kind of sacks do they use? I hope not
> burlap.

Are they TDMA or GSM sacks?

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:
>
> > >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
> > >
> >
> > The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all the
signs.
> > The only difference was a dry ***** in our ability to buy beer from the
store
> > while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.
> >
> > No other changes have taken place.
> >
> > I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I see
> > there!
>
>
> In Texas Eckerd stores are either:
>
> closed empty shells, with all signage gone, and merchandize now
> being closed out at BIG LOTS or
>
> are now CVS stores, with all Eckerd signage gone, or hidden behind CVS
> signs.
>
>
> ===
>
>
> AT&TWS stores are unchanged, still selling 1900 MHz only phones for
> AT&TWS plans.

Here in PA, we still have both stores with the only change being that you
can't use Eckerd as a catalog store for Penney's. Can't buy alcohol in a
drugstore here.

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Shaolin Superfly" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:
> > >
> > > > >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all
the
> > signs.
> > > > The only difference was a dry ***** in our ability to buy beer from
the
> > store
> > > > while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.
> > > >
> > > > No other changes have taken place.
> > > >
> > > > I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I
see
> > > > there!
> > >
> > >
> > > In Texas Eckerd stores are either:
> > >
> > > closed empty shells, with all signage gone, and merchandize now
> > > being closed out at BIG LOTS or
> > >
> > > are now CVS stores, with all Eckerd signage gone, or hidden behind CVS
> > > signs.
> >
> >
> > You're a lying sack of dog piss too.
> >
> > Here in San Antonio, TEXAS the Eckerd stores still haven't changed their
> > signage.
> >
> > BTW the signage on ATTW stores will be changing on the 14th after close.
>
> And calling someone names doesn't make Cingular any more prepared. They
> had 6 months to make signs.

OMG! You're dumber than an acre of mud!

The signs are made! The store changeovers will occur on the 14th of this
month.

What part of this are you finding so hard to comprehend?

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 01 Nov
2004 15:44:57 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Shaolin Superfly" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Actually, in most markets, retail employees are gauranteed their jobs for
>> 700 days.
>>
>> Big part of the merger agreement.
>
>Which markets, and where in the agreement?

Presumably those not being sold off.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 01 Nov
2004 15:44:11 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Shaolin Superfly" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> BTW the signage on ATTW stores will be changing on the 14th after close.
>
>And calling someone names doesn't make Cingular any more prepared. They
>had 6 months to make signs.

And undoubtedly did so, since lacking magic they couldn't be made and
distributed in a few days. And again lacking magic, it takes a bit of time to
actually install them.

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 31 Oct
2004 16:16:07 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
>wrote:

>> While the necessary changes inside each would be
>> significant, a wireless operation like Cingular and ATTWS are a hundred
>> fold more complicated.
>
>Fine but on DAY 1, Cingular was unprepared. ...

I think it's pretty clear that CIngular was very well prepared indeed.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 01 Nov
2004 01:10:39 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
>wrote:

>> Oh, okay, I now think it was me missing your point. All you're
>> referring to is the external signage facing the street. Uh, yeah,
>> anybody can splurg some orange and blue paint on a renegade sheet from
>> the laundry pole. (I'd choose the pretty blue ones to save on paint)
>> However, I'm unsure what value this superficial change may mean in the
>> overall scheme of things, especially when one considers the major
>> internal differences of the two companies.
>
>According to Navas it simple to merge the 2 companies. ...

Nope. What I actually said was:
"This integration actually looks to be easier than prior integrations."
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_u...hoon.sonic.net>

>... ATTWS is not making the integration
>easier by adding hundreds of thousands more customers to the rolls of
>ATTWS plans.

Not making it any harder either.

>ATTWS stores are still selling 1900 MHz only phones on ATTWS plans.

AFAIK ATTWS is selling only multi-band GSM phones (in GSM 850 markets at
least).

>Big
>sign still in window: Nights start at 7 PM at ATT Wireless; referring to
>Free Nights and Weekends starting at 7 PM on ATTWS plans starting at
>$59.99, while its $7/month on similar Cingular plans.

No effect on integration. More consumer choice. Win-win.

Just more of your usual FUD.

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 31 Oct
2004 16:14:40 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Cingular has actually moved with great speed, rebranding, changing networks,
>> etc.
>
>Baloney. Go by any AT&T Wireless store. Not a Cingular logo anywhere.

So what? Go by any Mercury dealer. Not a Ford logo anywhere.

It's clear that Cingular is moving with great speed to make changes,
particularly where it counts under-the-covers (underlying networks).

>> >Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
>> >Nov. 10
>>
>> True. Which is very fast.
>
>They had 6 months to get ready, and now its maybe Nov. 10 they'll tell
>you when in Holiday season??

That's very fast. I can't think of any comparable merger (size and
complexity) that's moved even that fast, let alone faster.

>> You will know if you go inside. Changing signs takes time, and can be
>> disruptive.
>
>I went inside, it's 100% unchanged.

On the surface perhaps, but it has changed if you look a bit deeper, just as
it has on the website.

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He's just doing his best to spread FUD, albeit a pretty pathetic effort.
I'm thinking sour grapes.

In <[email protected]> on Sun, 31 Oct 2004
18:25:23 GMT, Jerome Zelinske <[email protected]> wrote:

> Who cares if it takes days, weeks or months. It is no big deal. Get
>over it.
>
>Jack Zwick wrote:

>>[SNIP FUD]

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 01 Nov
2004 01:06:57 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>>
>> [....]
>>
>> >
>> > Apples and oranges.
>> >
>>
>> Considering the colour changes evident on Robby Gordon's #31 Chevy in
>> today's Atlanta NASCAR race, I think grapes and oranges would be more
>> appropriate. Sorry to be such a nit. <giggle>
>
>Making a 10 foot by 3 foot Canvas banner to place over an old company
>name is simple. CVS has done it to cover over some Eckerd signs, Why
>can't Cingular do it to cover over ATT Wireless signs?

Because it would be cheap and tack, and do more harm than good.

>Still today the ATT Wireless store was signing folks up to ATTWS plans
>with 1900 Mhz phones, that will be problematic on a Cingular Network.

Really? Which ones (by model)?

>A simple phone call: STOP SELLING 1900 MHz phones.

Why? 1900 MHz phones will still work the same in 1900 MHz markets. Nothing
in the merger has changed that.

Just more of your FUD.

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:31:39 -0700,
"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...

>> Still today the ATT Wireless store was signing folks up to ATTWS plans
>> with 1900 Mhz phones, that will be problematic on a Cingular Network.
>>
>> A simple phone call: STOP SELLING 1900 MHz phones.
>
>Yes, folks- the Troll Lord has spoken. You must obey.

He's clutching at straws. Pathetic.

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