If you don't get SMS Spam, you soon will.

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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 10 Nov
2004 23:19:33 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Jack D. Russell, Sr." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure that he thinks it's real, and in his own little world,
>> it probably is to him. I think that the rest of us will be perfectly
>> safe.
>
>Again, I didn't say it's a problem today. I said it soon will be. I'm a
>Network Manager and know far more about viruses, worms, and trojans than
>you apparently do.

1. I seriously doubt that.

2. God help your victims (users).

>You sound like a September 10, 2001 George Bush.

You sound like Chicken Little. (So does Dubya

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In article <[email protected]>,
"Jack D. Russell, Sr." <[email protected]> wrote:

> ======================================================================
> * Reply by Jack D. Russell, Sr. <[email protected]>
> * Newsgroup:alt.cellular.cingular
> * Reply to: All; "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]>
> * Date:Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:54:38 -0500
> * Subj:Re: If you don't get SMS Spam, you soon will.
> ======================================================================
>
> JZ> In article <[email protected]>,
> JZ> "Jack D. Russell, Sr." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> I'm sure that he thinks it's real, and in his own little world,
> >> it probably is to him. I think that the rest of us will be
> >> perfectly safe.
>
> JZ> Again, I didn't say it's a problem today. I said it soon will be.
> JZ> I'm a Network Manager and know far more about viruses, worms, and
> JZ> trojans than you apparently do. You sound like a September 10,
> JZ> 2001 George Bush.
>
> I soon won't be for any wireless user that uses proper precautions.


And what precaution do you suggest for SMS Spam. Cingular offers none,
other than charging you for it!

> Most that I know, don't make a habit of giving their number to just
> any Tom, Dick, and Harry. You usually don't know anything about
> anything, judging by the misinformation, FUD, unfounded
> statements/accusations and outright lies that you post on USENET

An authoritative URL is hardly a lie,

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9886

and the Virus/trojan takes a bank of phone numbers, not needing specific
numbers. But again you didn't read the story. Your blithly calling it
FUD or a lie doesn't make it so or make the problem any less real. I see
no URL from you.


PLONK

In article <[email protected]>,
"Mark W. Oots" <mark_ctc@(no spam)ameritech.net> wrote:

> I have the perfect solution....
>
> "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> <plonk!>

Too bad you won't read an authoritative source:

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9886

In article
<[email protected]>,
"John" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "John" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I was generalizing because I knew this would spread to non-Russian phone
> > > numbers. Try reading the post.
> >
> > duh - I was the OP.
> >
> > Just wait about 3 months and we'll see if it's an issue. You meanwhile
> > keep your head in the sand like an ostrich.
>
> Not sure what you mean by that? My point is that there's nothing I can do
> about it if someone else's PC is infected and it sends spam to my phone. I'm
> not denying there's an issue I'm just saying there's nothing I can do about
> it to stop it.

One can do what I did, as long as Cingular does zero to stop SMS Spam,
but will charge you for it. I HAD MESSAGING TURNED OFF for my account.

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9886

On 11/10/04 8:00 AM, in article
[email protected], "Jack Zwick"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> A current publicized computer virus/trojan (you do know there are about
> 100 new ones a week?; those teenage hackers in Belarus and Malaysia are
> busy) makes your pc send SMS messages by the 1000's.
Yet another reason I don't use a PC. (Check my headers - cough, Mac OSX,
cough).

In article <BDB829D9.1BAA%[email protected]>,
SneakerFreak <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/10/04 8:00 AM, in article
> [email protected], "Jack Zwick"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > A current publicized computer virus/trojan (you do know there are about
> > 100 new ones a week?; those teenage hackers in Belarus and Malaysia are
> > busy) makes your pc send SMS messages by the 1000's.
> Yet another reason I don't use a PC. (Check my headers - cough, Mac OSX,
> cough).

I use my G5 most of the time partner.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov
2004 00:49:57 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article
><[email protected]>,
> "John" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Not sure what you mean by that? My point is that there's nothing I can do
>> about it if someone else's PC is infected and it sends spam to my phone. I'm
>> not denying there's an issue I'm just saying there's nothing I can do about
>> it to stop it.
>
>One can do what I did, as long as Cingular does zero to stop SMS Spam,
>but will charge you for it. I HAD MESSAGING TURNED OFF for my account.

Heck -- why stop there? For real protection, CANCEL YOUR SERVICE ENTIRELY.
And leave us alone.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov
2004 00:48:54 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Mark W. Oots" <mark_ctc@(no spam)ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> I have the perfect solution....
>>
>> "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> <plonk!>
>
>Too bad you won't read an authoritative source:
>
>http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9886

As usual, it doesn't support your hysterical claims.

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov
2004 00:48:12 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I soon won't be for any wireless user that uses proper precautions.
>
>And what precaution do you suggest for SMS Spam.

None, because none is needed.

>An authoritative URL is hardly a lie,

The lie is yours.

>http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9886
>
>and the Virus/trojan takes a bank of phone numbers, not needing specific
>numbers. But again you didn't read the story. Your blithly calling it
>FUD or a lie doesn't make it so or make the problem any less real. I see
>no URL from you.

As usual, that link doesn't support your hysterical claims.

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> Again, I didn't say it's a problem today. I said it soon will be. I'm a
> Network Manager and know far more about viruses, worms, and trojans than
> you apparently do. You sound like a September 10, 2001 George Bush.

Why do you say that, was there a Presidential virus class on sept 10th ?
Perhaps he got his MSCSE then?

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:t%[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Wed, 10 Nov
> 2004 23:19:33 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Jack D. Russell, Sr." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure that he thinks it's real, and in his own little world,
>>> it probably is to him. I think that the rest of us will be perfectly
>>> safe.
>>
>>Again, I didn't say it's a problem today. I said it soon will be. I'm a
>>Network Manager and know far more about viruses, worms, and trojans than
>>you apparently do.
>
> 1. I seriously doubt that.
>
> 2. God help your victims (users).
>
>>You sound like a September 10, 2001 George Bush.
>
> You sound like Chicken Little. (So does Dubya
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

Four more years!!

bamp

In article <[email protected]>,
"bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote:

>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:t%[email protected]...
> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >
> > In <[email protected]> on Wed, 10 Nov
> > 2004 23:19:33 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>In article <[email protected]>,
> >> "Jack D. Russell, Sr." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm sure that he thinks it's real, and in his own little world,
> >>> it probably is to him. I think that the rest of us will be perfectly
> >>> safe.
> >>
> >>Again, I didn't say it's a problem today. I said it soon will be. I'm a
> >>Network Manager and know far more about viruses, worms, and trojans than
> >>you apparently do.
> >
> > 1. I seriously doubt that.
> >
> > 2. God help your victims (users).
> >
> >>You sound like a September 10, 2001 George Bush.
> >
> > You sound like Chicken Little. (So does Dubya

OK Navas, Cingular is perfect, nothing can go wrang.

Now tell us what is Cingular doing to stop SMS SPAM.

N O T H I N G

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> Again, I didn't say it's a problem today. I said it soon will be. I'm a
> Network Manager and know far more about viruses, worms, and trojans than
> you apparently do. You sound like a September 10, 2001 George Bush.

Network Manager? Did they finally computerize the fry machine?

You don't manage or administer or manage a cellular network- you don't have
a clue about the subject.

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* Reply by Jack D. Russell, Sr. <[email protected]>
* Newsgroup:alt.cellular.cingular
* Reply to: All; "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]>
* Date:Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:59:14 -0500
* Subj:Re: If you don't get SMS Spam, you soon will.
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>>> You sound like Chicken Little. (So does Dubya

JZ> OK Navas, Cingular is perfect, nothing can go wrang.

JZ> Now tell us what is Cingular doing to stop SMS SPAM.

JZ> N O T H I N G

Which is exactly what they need to do as it's a non-issue. You're the
only person that I've heard of that receives SMS SPAM. Your cell
number must have been placed on one too many public restroom walls.
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Jack