v400 and Pager Capability

Can I use the v400 with my Cingular Service as a pager device? I have a
security system that can send 3 digit codes to a pager, and I want to be
able to send these codes to my cell phone, as if it were a pager. How would
I do this?

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Billy wrote:
> Can I use the v400 with my Cingular Service as a pager device? I have a
> security system that can send 3 digit codes to a pager, and I want to be
> able to send these codes to my cell phone, as if it were a pager. How would
> I do this?
>
>

How do you currently send the digits to the pager?

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:12:54 -0500,
"Billy" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Can I use the v400 with my Cingular Service as a pager device? I have a
>security system that can send 3 digit codes to a pager, and I want to be
>able to send these codes to my cell phone, as if it were a pager. How would
>I do this?

Typically by using the carrier's email-to-SMS gateway.

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> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:12:54 -0500,
> "Billy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Can I use the v400 with my Cingular Service as a pager device? I have a
> >security system that can send 3 digit codes to a pager, and I want to be
> >able to send these codes to my cell phone, as if it were a pager. How would
> >I do this?
>
> Typically by using the carrier's email-to-SMS gateway.
>
>
Many hardware devices that can send a page thru the phone (security
systems, answering machines, UPS's, etc) do not have the ability to send
email. They simply call a pager number and send the code via DTMF
tones.

Two ways to do that to a cell phone--neither is perfect.

If the cell phone has extended voice mail there is an option to allow
the caller to interrupt the voice mail message by pressing a digit and
then to enter a phone number or code instead of leaving a voice mail.
This method only works if the caller reaches voice mail in the first
place of course, i.e. if you DON'T answer the phone yourself--with a
human on the other end that's okay but with a machine on the other end
you get an earfull of tones that are just a bit hard to interpret :-)

The other method is to have the device call the numeric page access
number (for Cingular it's 800-856-6122), wait a few seconds for the
prompt to enter the 10-digit cell number--do that, then enter the code
digits (and whatever else is wanted). The problem with this method is
that's a LOT of digits and pauses and some devices (such as my home
answering machine) don't support that many digits.

I got around that problem by having a private 800# with ureach.com.
That service also allows the caller to press a digit to interrupt the
forwarding and/or message but since it doesn't need the 10-digit cell
number it's a lot fewer digits.

I feel this is one of the main reasons you're still seeing the few
pagers that you do. I'd like to see Cingular offer (for a small fee) a
2nd cell phone number dedicated to sending pages via SMS. It could be a
simple "enter your phone number or code" system or it could be more
elaborate and let the caller pick an actual message from a list
(standard or defined by the user). Actually voice-to-text systems are
good enough now to even dictate short statements. Anybody know how to
actually get someone at Cingular to take suggestions? They ought to be
interested in things they could charge more fees for :-)

Speaking of voice-to-text--anyone watch Sue Thomas FB-Eye? She gets
calls on what looks like a Blackberry pager/phone. The caller speaks
but she sees it in text then replies by voice (although a couple of
times she replied by text--which would need to do text-to-voice going
back--not needed for Sue but might be by others). Looks fully automated.
Is this just TV magic or does that service actually exist?
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Jud
Dallas TX USA

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:26:03 GMT, Jud Hardcastle
<[email protected]> said in
alt.cellular.cingular:

>Speaking of voice-to-text--anyone watch Sue Thomas FB-Eye? She gets
>calls on what looks like a Blackberry pager/phone. The caller speaks
>but she sees it in text then replies by voice (although a couple of
>times she replied by text--which would need to do text-to-voice going
>back--not needed for Sue but might be by others). Looks fully automated.
>Is this just TV magic or does that service actually exist?

There's an existing service - you call an operator and she interprets
between the voice caller and the deaf caller (using a TDD).

Doing voice-to-sms is certainly doable now. Whether any phone company
already has such a "gateway" I have no idea.

Billy wrote:
> Can I use the v400 with my Cingular Service as a pager device? I have a
> security system that can send 3 digit codes to a pager, and I want to be
> able to send these codes to my cell phone, as if it were a pager. How would
> I do this?
>
>

I heard a while back that Cingular was upgrading their voice mail
systems. The newer system allows the callee to be paged via SMS. Over
the last few months, I've called a number of people where I got their
VM, and default system message says to press 5 to page the person. When
I press 5, I then key a string of digits which are then sent to the
handset as SMS, and then I'm prompted to also leave a voice message or
hang up. This has always worked when I used it, and Nokia phones can
treat a string of digits (7 or 10) as a ringback number.

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What is SMS?

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> Billy wrote:
> > Can I use the v400 with my Cingular Service as a pager device? I have a
> > security system that can send 3 digit codes to a pager, and I want to be
> > able to send these codes to my cell phone, as if it were a pager. How
would
> > I do this?
> >
> >
>
> I heard a while back that Cingular was upgrading their voice mail
> systems. The newer system allows the callee to be paged via SMS. Over
> the last few months, I've called a number of people where I got their
> VM, and default system message says to press 5 to page the person. When
> I press 5, I then key a string of digits which are then sent to the
> handset as SMS, and then I'm prompted to also leave a voice message or
> hang up. This has always worked when I used it, and Nokia phones can
> treat a string of digits (7 or 10) as a ringback number.
>
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> jer email reply - I am not a 'ten'

Billy wrote:
> What is SMS?
>


SMS = Short Messaging Service

It's the method used by all wireless carriers to send text messages to a
handset.


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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:44:24 -0600, Jer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Billy wrote:

>> What is SMS?
>
>SMS = Short Messaging Service
>
>It's the method used by all wireless carriers to send text messages to a
>handset.

SMS is actually a GSMism, although other technologies have comparable methods.

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