Considering switching?

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:55:42 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>In <[email protected]> on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:00:46
>GMT, Al Klein <[email protected]> wrote:

>>And, according to John Navas, it's a) bad on battery life and b) slow
>>on high speed data connections.

>To be clear, my comments actually pertained to the V551

Oops. My error.

>although I would expect the RAZR V3 to be similar.

Who knows? I'd expect the V180 to be similar to the V220.

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John Navas wrote:

> EDGE beats 1xRTT by a wide margin and is widely deployed by Cingular-ATTWS,
> with much better coverage than EV-DO, which is roughly matched by UMTS.

I've heard of EDGE but don't know anything about it - what's the average top
speed? 1xEV-DO is supposedly about 350-500Kbps.



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Steve Sobol wrote:
> SinghaLvr wrote:
>
>> ... which at least you can use if you have a GSM phone. (Unlocked.)
>> If you have a CDMA phone you have to keep an extra GSM phone lying
>> around for those travel situations. :-(
>
>
> Unless you have a Samsung A690 from Verzion. (Hybrid CDMA/GSM phone)
> I'm surprised we haven't seen more of these from the other major carriers.
>

What about the Motorola A840?

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:11:18 -0800, Steve
Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>
>> EDGE beats 1xRTT by a wide margin and is widely deployed by Cingular-ATTWS,
>> with much better coverage than EV-DO, which is roughly matched by UMTS.
>
>I've heard of EDGE but don't know anything about it - what's the average top
>speed? ...

<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...%3Dlang_en%26n
um%3D100%26hl%3Den%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#47caf1167d90739b>
or <http://tinyurl.com/6e39u>

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Bob Horvath wrote:

> What about the Motorola A840?
>
> http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510

What about it?

It's not being sold yet by Motorola. The Samsung A690 has been out for a while
and is in Verizon Wireless stores.

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Steve Sobol wrote:
> Bob Horvath wrote:
>
>> What about the Motorola A840?
>>
>> http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
>
>
> What about it?
>
> It's not being sold yet by Motorola. The Samsung A690 has been out for a
> while and is in Verizon Wireless stores.
>


Never mind. I thought it was out. Doh!

In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bob Horvath wrote:
>
>> What about the Motorola A840?
>>
>> http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
>
> What about it?
>
> It's not being sold yet by Motorola. The Samsung A690 has been out for a while
> and is in Verizon Wireless stores.
>

Yes, but at least by what I have read, the GSM functionality is no good
in the United States. Seems to me you are still better off renting a
phone and buying a SIM when you travel if you are going to do any
significant communication.

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On 14 Dec 2004 13:57:34 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Yes, but at least by what I have read, the GSM functionality is no good
>in the United States. Seems to me you are still better off renting a
>phone and buying a SIM when you travel if you are going to do any
>significant communication.

If you were going to do any significant amount of communication
renting a phone would be a poor move since the price of rental would
likely be most of the cost of actually buying an older or less feature
filled phone.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

>>It's not being sold yet by Motorola. The Samsung A690 has been out for a while
>>and is in Verizon Wireless stores.
>
> Yes, but at least by what I have read, the GSM functionality is no good
> in the United States. Seems to me you are still better off renting a
> phone and buying a SIM when you travel if you are going to do any
> significant communication.

You are absolutely right. The A690 is meant to be purchased by people who
travel internationally. 850/1900 CDMA for the USA and 900/1800 GSM for Europe
and abroad. No AMPS, AFAIK.



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In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If you were going to do any significant amount of communication
> renting a phone would be a poor move since the price of rental would
> likely be most of the cost of actually buying an older or less feature
> filled phone.
>

If you are a regular business traveller, sure, but then, I would have a
world phone [unlocked] with Cingular and not a hybrid with Verizon.
Still, an infrequent trip to Europe as an example would be well worth
just renting a phone and going with a locally purchased SIM.

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>> SinghaLvr wrote:
>>
>>> ... which at least you can use if you have a GSM phone. (Unlocked.)
>>> If you have a CDMA phone you have to keep an extra GSM phone lying
>>> around for those travel situations. :-(
>>
>> Unless you have a Samsung A690 from Verzion. (Hybrid CDMA/GSM phone)
>> I'm surprised we haven't seen more of these from the other major carriers.

And GSM in the A690 is ONLY for international usage. It does not support
the North American GSM frequencies. GSM only at 900/1800 MHz. No roaming
on Cingular/AT&T.

In news:M%[email protected],
CharlesH <[email protected]> typed:
>>> SinghaLvr wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... which at least you can use if you have a GSM phone. (Unlocked.)
>>>> If you have a CDMA phone you have to keep an extra GSM phone lying
>>>> around for those travel situations. :-(
>>>
>>> Unless you have a Samsung A690 from Verzion. (Hybrid CDMA/GSM phone)
>>> I'm surprised we haven't seen more of these from the other major
>>> carriers.
>
> And GSM in the A690 is ONLY for international usage. It does not
> support the North American GSM frequencies. GSM only at 900/1800
> MHz. No roaming on Cingular/AT&T.

But it will work/roam in North America on VZW, Sprint, Alltel and other CDMA
carriers.
Most GSM phones sold in North America will not roam internationaly.
There are of course quad band international usage GSM phones available.

IMHO wrote:

> But it will work/roam in North America on VZW, Sprint, Alltel and other CDMA
> carriers.
> Most GSM phones sold in North America will not roam internationaly.

You specifically need a "world phone" which runs on all four bands. I don't
know that "most" is accurate - "many", for sure...

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On 14 Dec 2004 18:50:54 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Still, an infrequent trip to Europe as an example would be well worth
>just renting a phone and going with a locally purchased SIM.

Not if you're familliar with what companies charge to rent phones.
It's always better to buy a phone even a second-hand one than to rent
a phone.

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In <gwPvd.1246$F25.344@okepread07> on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:58:51 -0600, "IMHO"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Most GSM phones sold in North America will not roam internationaly.
>There are of course quad band international usage GSM phones available.

And tri-band "world" phones, lots of them.

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