New 30 day trial for new users.

Read the fine print, its not so nice.

Activation fees are only refunded if phone is returned within 3 days.

Then once youre into a regular billing period of a full month,
its not prorated, regardless of when you quit.

It's in the Cingular "Plan Terms" of new brochures now on counters in
BestBuy.

So you quit after 10 days, you'd pay

$36 Activation fee per line ($18 on Family Talk)

$$ for 5 or 6 days till your account is set up, and no rollover minutes
for that interval

$$$$ for a full month.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 16 Dec
2004 20:48:08 GMT, Jack "Chicken Little" Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>Read the fine print, its not so nice.
>
>Activation fees are only refunded if phone is returned within 3 days.
>
>Then once youre into a regular billing period of a full month,
>its not prorated, regardless of when you quit.
>
>It's in the Cingular "Plan Terms" of new brochures now on counters in
>BestBuy.
>
>So you quit after 10 days, you'd pay
>
>$36 Activation fee per line ($18 on Family Talk)
>
>$$ for 5 or 6 days till your account is set up, and no rollover minutes
>for that interval
>
>$$$$ for a full month.


The actual Cingular Return Policy is posted on-line at
<http://www.cingular.com/customer_ser...n_phone_return>

Cingular will waive early termination fees for service terminated
within the return period, provided that the device(s) associated with
such service are returned within the return period. Gift and ringtone
cards are not refundable. In the event a customer returns their
device and cancels service within applicable timeframe, all other
charges will apply, but monthly service charges shall be re-rated and
assessed based on the usage and the number of days that the customer
had service. Any consumer that cancels service within 3 days will be
refunded the activation fees paid.

In other words, after 3 days you are charged only for actual use of the phone,
a perfectly reasonable proposition; i.e., the sky isn't falling.

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In article <1Wowd.47$rL3.23@trnddc03>, "DFS" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > had service. Any consumer that cancels service within 3 days will be
> > refunded the activation fees paid.
> >
> > In other words, after 3 days you are charged only for actual use of the
> > phone,
> > a perfectly reasonable proposition; i.e., the sky isn't falling.
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> So, essentially it's a 3 day trial, not 30 !!
>
> Not much time to subject the phone and coverage service to any sort of
> thorough test.

It's a 30 day trial, as the $150 ETF is waived, but the trial will cost
way over $100 in most cases.

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In <1Wowd.47$rL3.23@trnddc03> on Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:32:13 GMT, "DFS"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> had service. Any consumer that cancels service within 3 days will be
>> refunded the activation fees paid.
>>
>> In other words, after 3 days you are charged only for actual use of the
>> phone,
>> a perfectly reasonable proposition; i.e., the sky isn't falling.
>
>So, essentially it's a 3 day trial, not 30 !!

It's a real 30-day "trial" -- meaning you can cancel without penalty (Early
Termination Fee) within the first 30 days. "Free" has nothing to do with it.

>Not much time to subject the phone and coverage service to any sort of
>thorough test.

30 days is more than enough time. Even just 3 days is useful.

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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 17 Dec
2004 01:14:39 GMT, FUDMEISTER Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <1Wowd.47$rL3.23@trnddc03>, "DFS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > had service. Any consumer that cancels service within 3 days will be
>> > refunded the activation fees paid.
>> >
>> > In other words, after 3 days you are charged only for actual use of the
>> > phone,
>> > a perfectly reasonable proposition; i.e., the sky isn't falling.
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> So, essentially it's a 3 day trial, not 30 !!
>>
>> Not much time to subject the phone and coverage service to any sort of
>> thorough test.
>
>It's a 30 day trial, as the $150 ETF is waived, but the trial will cost
>way over $100 in most cases.

Utter nonsense.

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In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> > In other words, after 3 days you are charged only for actual use of the
> >> > phone,
> >> > a perfectly reasonable proposition; i.e., the sky isn't falling.
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> So, essentially it's a 3 day trial, not 30 !!
> >>
> >> Not much time to subject the phone and coverage service to any sort of
> >> thorough test.
> >
> >It's a 30 day trial, as the $150 ETF is waived, but the trial will cost
> >way over $100 in most cases.
>
> Utter nonsense.

So Navas proclaims, with absolutely NOTHING to back himself up.

Why don't you just go away, Navas? You're like the cockroach that won't
die. You just scurry around like the world revolves around you.

Please tell us, Navas, exactly WHAT charges are in place under the above
scenario? Oh, you don't know? Then you don't know that it's "utter
nonsense," do you?

So shut the fsck up.

In article <[email protected]>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > In other words, after 3 days you are charged only for actual use of
> > >> > the
> > >> > phone,
> > >> > a perfectly reasonable proposition; i.e., the sky isn't falling.
> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> So, essentially it's a 3 day trial, not 30 !!
> > >>
> > >> Not much time to subject the phone and coverage service to any sort of
> > >> thorough test.
> > >
> > >It's a 30 day trial, as the $150 ETF is waived, but the trial will cost
> > >way over $100 in most cases.
> >
> > Utter nonsense.
>
> So Navas proclaims, with absolutely NOTHING to back himself up.
>
> Why don't you just go away, Navas? You're like the cockroach that won't
> die. You just scurry around like the world revolves around you.
>
> Please tell us, Navas, exactly WHAT charges are in place under the above
> scenario? Oh, you don't know? Then you don't know that it's "utter
> nonsense," do you?
>
> So shut the fsck up.

Navas needs to go into BestBuy, look at the **new** Cingular brochures
and read the "Plan Terms" fine print on the back page.

Not nonsense, just the facts.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 16 Dec 2004
20:57:24 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

>> >It's a 30 day trial, as the $150 ETF is waived, but the trial will cost
>> >way over $100 in most cases.
>>
>> Utter nonsense.
>
>So Navas proclaims, with absolutely NOTHING to back himself up.

Already did that in a prior post, which I guess you missed. ;-)

>Why don't you just go away, Navas? ...

Why don't you take your own advice?

>Please tell us, Navas, exactly WHAT charges are in place under the above
>scenario? ...

See my prior post. ( You know how to do that, right?

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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 17 Dec
2004 02:30:00 GMT, Jack "Chicken Little" Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>Navas needs to go into BestBuy, look at the **new** Cingular brochures
> and read the "Plan Terms" fine print on the back page.

Nope -- likewise anyone else, I can rely on what's posted on-line.

>Not nonsense, just the facts.

Actually just more of your FUD.

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