Moto v551 or v400?

Signing up for new service with Cingular soon, and was wondering if I could
get some feedback as to which of these phones is better?

Most important features:

1. Signal strength and battery life
2. Import Outlook contacts
3. Lots of address/book entries
4. Durability
5. Screen size / visual
6. Headset hookups / hands free operation

Not important:

Camera or video
Text or MM messaging
Email from phone
Web browsing on phon

Thank you in advance for any helpful advice you might have.

Chris

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My Kid just got the 551 and I have the 400 the 551 is much better, When it
comes time in 6 months thats the one I am going to get or the V3
"nonone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:R4Qyd.2775$1U6.106@trnddc09...
> Signing up for new service with Cingular soon, and was wondering if I
could
> get some feedback as to which of these phones is better?
>
> Most important features:
>
> 1. Signal strength and battery life
> 2. Import Outlook contacts
> 3. Lots of address/book entries
> 4. Durability
> 5. Screen size / visual
> 6. Headset hookups / hands free operation
>
> Not important:
>
> Camera or video
> Text or MM messaging
> Email from phone
> Web browsing on phon
>
> Thank you in advance for any helpful advice you might have.
>
> Chris
>
>

The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite similar
in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old, it
probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary 64K
SIM in any event.

In <[email protected]> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:42 -0800,
"Fester" <[email protected]> wrote:

>My Kid just got the 551 and I have the 400 the 551 is much better, When it
>comes time in 6 months thats the one I am going to get or the V3
>"nonone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:R4Qyd.2775$1U6.106@trnddc09...
>> Signing up for new service with Cingular soon, and was wondering if I
>could
>> get some feedback as to which of these phones is better?
>>
>> Most important features:
>>
>> 1. Signal strength and battery life
>> 2. Import Outlook contacts
>> 3. Lots of address/book entries
>> 4. Durability
>> 5. Screen size / visual
>> 6. Headset hookups / hands free operation
>>
>> Not important:
>>
>> Camera or video
>> Text or MM messaging
>> Email from phone
>> Web browsing on phon
>>
>> Thank you in advance for any helpful advice you might have.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

What is ENS ? Why is the 64k SIM better?

Thank you for your response.



"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite
> similar
> in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old, it
> probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary
> 64K
> SIM in any event.
>
> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004
> 00:11:42 -0800,
> "Fester" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>My Kid just got the 551 and I have the 400 the 551 is much better, When it
>>comes time in 6 months thats the one I am going to get or the V3
>>"nonone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:R4Qyd.2775$1U6.106@trnddc09...
>>> Signing up for new service with Cingular soon, and was wondering if I
>>could
>>> get some feedback as to which of these phones is better?
>>>
>>> Most important features:
>>>
>>> 1. Signal strength and battery life
>>> 2. Import Outlook contacts
>>> 3. Lots of address/book entries
>>> 4. Durability
>>> 5. Screen size / visual
>>> 6. Headset hookups / hands free operation
>>>
>>> Not important:
>>>
>>> Camera or video
>>> Text or MM messaging
>>> Email from phone
>>> Web browsing on phon
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance for any helpful advice you might have.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

In <xRXyd.8594$rL3.1227@trnddc03> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:54:53 GMT, "Chris W"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>What is ENS ? Why is the 64k SIM better?

"Google is your friend!"
<http://www.google.com/search?q=ens+64k>
See the 3rd or 4th link down:
[64K SIMS and ENS Phones Q&A (Resulting from Cingular and ATTWS ...

>Thank you for your response.
>
>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite
>> similar
>> in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old, it
>> probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary
>> 64K
>> SIM in any event.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming up
quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
of these phones would YOU get?

(and are the bluetooth headsets cool - and do they work well)

Thanks again,

Chris


"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <xRXyd.8594$rL3.1227@trnddc03> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:54:53 GMT, "Chris
> W"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>What is ENS ? Why is the 64k SIM better?
>
> "Google is your friend!"
> <http://www.google.com/search?q=ens+64k>
> See the 3rd or 4th link down:
> [64K SIMS and ENS Phones Q&A (Resulting from Cingular and ATTWS ...
>
>>Thank you for your response.
>>
>>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite
>>> similar
>>> in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old,
>>> it
>>> probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary
>>> 64K
>>> SIM in any event.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris W"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming up
>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
>of these phones would YOU get?

V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> In <xRXyd.8594$rL3.1227@trnddc03> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:54:53 GMT, "Chris
>> W"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>What is ENS ? Why is the 64k SIM better?
>>
>> "Google is your friend!"
>> <http://www.google.com/search?q=ens+64k>
>> See the 3rd or 4th link down:
>> [64K SIMS and ENS Phones Q&A (Resulting from Cingular and ATTWS ...
>>
>>>Thank you for your response.
>>>
>>>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite
>>>> similar
>>>> in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old,
>>>> it
>>>> probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary
>>>> 64K
>>>> SIM in any event.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
> W"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
>>up
>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
>>of these phones would YOU get?
>
> V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.

I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available data
features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I just
figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.

I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
to use their service.

Charles

Charles Perry wrote:

> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
>
>>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>
>>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
>>W"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
>>>up
>>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
>>>of these phones would YOU get?
>>
>>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>
>
> I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
> complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available data
> features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
> includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I just
> figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
> address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
> multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>
> I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
> to use their service.
>
> Charles


That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
clue, it would've already been done.


--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

In article <[email protected]>,
"Charles Perry" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >
> > In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
> > W"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
> >>up
> >>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
> >>of these phones would YOU get?
> >
> > V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>
> I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
> complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available data
> features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
> includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I just
> figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
> address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
> multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>
> I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
> to use their service.
>
> Charles

They do! its http://www.cingular.com

Try

http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net

as a starting point

In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Charles Perry wrote:
>
> > "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news[email protected]...
> >
> >>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >>
> >>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
> >>W"
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
> >>>up
> >>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
> >>>of these phones would YOU get?
> >>
> >>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
> >
> >
> > I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
> > complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
> > data
> > features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
> > includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
> > just
> > figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
> > address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
> > multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
> >
> > I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
> > to use their service.
> >
> > Charles
>
>
> That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
> much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
> Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
> clue, it would've already been done.

Its been done.

http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net

Jack Zwick wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Charles Perry wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>>>
>>>>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
>>>>W"
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
>>>>>up
>>>>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
>>>>>of these phones would YOU get?
>>>>
>>>>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>>>
>>>
>>>I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
>>>complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
>>>data
>>>features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
>>>includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
>>>just
>>>figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
>>>address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
>>>multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>>>
>>>I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
>>>to use their service.
>>>
>>>Charles
>>
>>
>>That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
>>much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
>>Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
>>clue, it would've already been done.
>
>
> Its been done.
>
> http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net


I tried going there previously, and again now - all I get is 404.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

Worked for me.

You might be getting something in your system chache instead of a fresh
link..

___________________
Ann
Motorola V551
iPAQ 4355
"Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jack Zwick wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Charles Perry wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>>>>
>>>>>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT,
>>>>>"Chris W"
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name
>>>>>>coming up
>>>>>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru -
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>of these phones would YOU get?
>>>>>
>>>>>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
>>>>complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
>>>>data features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package
>>>>that includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data.
>>>>Well, I just figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture
>>>>to an email address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at
>>>>least to me, that multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>>>>
>>>>I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you
>>>>need to use their service.
>>>>
>>>>Charles
>>>
>>>
>>>That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
>>>much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
>>>Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
>>>clue, it would've already been done.
>>
>>
>> Its been done.
>>
>> http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
>
>
> I tried going there previously, and again now - all I get is 404.
>
> --
> jer
> email reply - I am not a 'ten'

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Charles Perry wrote:
>>
>> > "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news[email protected]...
>> >
>> >>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>> >>
>> >>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT,
>> >>"Chris
>> >>W"
>> >><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name
>> >>>coming
>> >>>up
>> >>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru -
>> >>>which
>> >>>of these phones would YOU get?
>> >>
>> >>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>> >
>> >
>> > I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
>> > complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
>> > data
>> > features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
>> > includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
>> > just
>> > figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
>> > address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me,
>> > that
>> > multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>> >
>> > I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you
>> > need
>> > to use their service.
>> >
>> > Charles
>>
>>
>> That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
>> much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
>> Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
>> clue, it would've already been done.
>
> Its been done.
>
> http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
I have been there. It is very sparse on details. Thanks anyway.

Charles

In article <[email protected]>,
"Charles Perry" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Charles Perry wrote:
> >>
> >> > "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > news[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> >>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >> >>
> >> >>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT,
> >> >>"Chris
> >> >>W"
> >> >><[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name
> >> >>>coming
> >> >>>up
> >> >>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru -
> >> >>>which
> >> >>>of these phones would YOU get?
> >> >>
> >> >>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
> >> > complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
> >> > data
> >> > features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
> >> > includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
> >> > just
> >> > figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
> >> > address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me,
> >> > that
> >> > multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
> >> >
> >> > I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you
> >> > need
> >> > to use their service.
> >> >
> >> > Charles
> >>
> >>
> >> That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
> >> much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
> >> Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
> >> clue, it would've already been done.
> >
> > Its been done.
> >
> > http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
> I have been there. It is very sparse on details. Thanks anyway.
>
> Charles

Try John Navas website then.