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  1. #1
    Is there any way to copy a SIM, so you could have 2 phones on the same
    acct. rather than paying extra to have a "family" plan?
    Or, in my case, I can't add another to my plan even if I pay because it's
    an old # from MO I want to keep, but I live in CA now. They say I'd have
    to get another MO # if I wanted to do it, and I don't want to do that.
    It'd be better to just have them both ring to the same MO #.
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  2. #2
    Stanley Reynolds
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    Re: Copy SIM?


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Is there any way to copy a SIM, so you could have 2 phones on the same
    > acct. rather than paying extra to have a "family" plan?
    > Or, in my case, I can't add another to my plan even if I pay because it's
    > an old # from MO I want to keep, but I live in CA now. They say I'd have
    > to get another MO # if I wanted to do it, and I don't want to do that.
    > It'd be better to just have them both ring to the same MO #.
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    no





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    John Navas
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    Re: Copy SIM?

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    In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:42:22
    -0800, [email protected]lid wrote:

    >Is there any way to copy a SIM, so you could have 2 phones on the same
    >acct. rather than paying extra to have a "family" plan?


    No.

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  4. #4
    Don Udel \(ETC\)
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    Re: Copy SIM?

    I saw a device at the Pittsburgh airport last week that allowed you to copy
    a SIM card. Load the SIM and copy it to onboard memory of the copier (about
    2" square) device. It is intended for backing up the SIM and restoring it.

    Don
    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Is there any way to copy a SIM, so you could have 2 phones on the same
    > acct. rather than paying extra to have a "family" plan?
    > Or, in my case, I can't add another to my plan even if I pay because it's
    > an old # from MO I want to keep, but I live in CA now. They say I'd have
    > to get another MO # if I wanted to do it, and I don't want to do that.
    > It'd be better to just have them both ring to the same MO #.
    > --
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    > For email response, or CC, please mailto:see.my.sig.4.addr(at)bigfoot.com.
    > Yeah, it's really a real address






  5. #5
    Mike S.
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    Re: Copy SIM?


    In article <[email protected]>,
    Don Udel \(ETC\) <[email protected]> wrote:
    ><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> Is there any way to copy a SIM, so you could have 2 phones on the same
    >> acct. rather than paying extra to have a "family" plan?
    >> Or, in my case, I can't add another to my plan even if I pay because it's
    >> an old # from MO I want to keep, but I live in CA now. They say I'd have
    >> to get another MO # if I wanted to do it, and I don't want to do that.
    >> It'd be better to just have them both ring to the same MO #.
    >> --

    >I saw a device at the Pittsburgh airport last week that allowed you to copy
    >a SIM card. Load the SIM and copy it to onboard memory of the copier (about
    >2" square) device. It is intended for backing up the SIM and restoring it.
    >
    >Don


    Those devices copy phone book and messages ... not account information.
    The OP is looking to clone his account into another SIM card. Those backup
    devices don't do it (although they're very convenient for the task they are
    desined to do).





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    Ralvarez
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    You can never have 2 sims cards with the sam numbers, that is a big no no



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    Re: Copy SIM?


    >I saw a device at the Pittsburgh airport last week that allowed you to copy
    >a SIM card. Load the SIM and copy it to onboard memory of the copier (about
    >2" square) device. It is intended for backing up the SIM and restoring it.
    >

    Oooh, what's it called? Know where to get it or who makes it?

    >Don
    ><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> Is there any way to copy a SIM, so you could have 2 phones on the same
    >> acct. rather than paying extra to have a "family" plan?
    >> Or, in my case, I can't add another to my plan even if I pay because it's
    >> an old # from MO I want to keep, but I live in CA now. They say I'd have
    >> to get another MO # if I wanted to do it, and I don't want to do that.
    >> It'd be better to just have them both ring to the same MO #.
    >> --
    >> _____________________________________________________
    >> For email response, or CC, please mailto:see.my.sig.4.addr(at)bigfoot.com.
    >> Yeah, it's really a real address

    >


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  8. #8

    Re: Copy SIM?

    >
    >You can never have 2 sims cards with the sam numbers, that is a big no
    >no


    It's so stupid. If somebody clones a sim for illegal purposes, it shows
    up on the original owner's bill. Not good for long.
    It figures, legitimate users are screwed because of greedmongering
    companies paranoia.
    I just want 2 phones on 1 acct., with the same #. You can't do that even
    if you are willing to pay for it, which really pisses me off!
    Plus, I shouldn't HAVE to pay for it, I'm paying for the minutes used and
    I wouldn't even be using them at the same time, so what do they care.
    It'd be simple enough on their part to just lock out a #2 phone trying to
    make a call while #1 was already connected to the network.
    So there wouldn't even be chance of conflict.

    Cingular now offers $10 extra for an extra phone on your acct, but I can't
    combine the 2 I have because they're different area codes and one is an
    AT&T phone. DAMNIT!!!!

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  9. #9
    Joel Kolstad
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    Re: Copy SIM?

    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Plus, I shouldn't HAVE to pay for it, I'm paying for the minutes used and
    > I wouldn't even be using them at the same time, so what do they care.


    In this case, why not simply transfer the SIM card back and forth?

    > It'd be simple enough on their part to just lock out a #2 phone trying to
    > make a call while #1 was already connected to the network.
    > So there wouldn't even be chance of conflict.


    It's a little trickier than that in the sense that whenever a new phone is
    connected to the network, the entire network has to be queried to make sure
    any other one with the same phone is presently connected and, if so, disable
    it... unless it's in the middle of, say, a 911 call... or something

    I mean, it's certainly a solvable technical problem, but pretty much any
    scheme you come up with is guaranteed to increase the number of support
    calls Cingular has to handle, and it doesn't take many support calls before
    an otherwise profitable customer becomes unprofitable.

    By putting the onous on the consumer to change the SIM card, these issues
    are avoided.

    > Cingular now offers $10 extra for an extra phone on your acct, but I can't
    > combine the 2 I have because they're different area codes and one is an
    > AT&T phone. DAMNIT!!!!


    You could forward one to the other.

    ---Joel Kolstad





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    Don Udel \(ETC\)
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    Re: Copy SIM?

    Don't know. Heading back up to Pittsburgh next week. I can check. Might
    be able to google SIM copier.

    Don
    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>I saw a device at the Pittsburgh airport last week that allowed you to
    >>copy
    >>a SIM card. Load the SIM and copy it to onboard memory of the copier
    >>(about
    >>2" square) device. It is intended for backing up the SIM and restoring
    >>it.
    >>

    > Oooh, what's it called? Know where to get it or who makes it?
    >
    >>Don
    >><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]...
    >>> Is there any way to copy a SIM, so you could have 2 phones on the same
    >>> acct. rather than paying extra to have a "family" plan?
    >>> Or, in my case, I can't add another to my plan even if I pay because
    >>> it's
    >>> an old # from MO I want to keep, but I live in CA now. They say I'd
    >>> have
    >>> to get another MO # if I wanted to do it, and I don't want to do that.
    >>> It'd be better to just have them both ring to the same MO #.
    >>> --
    >>> _____________________________________________________
    >>> For email response, or CC, please
    >>> mailto:see.my.sig.4.addr(at)bigfoot.com.
    >>> Yeah, it's really a real address

    >>

    >
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  11. #11

    Re: Copy SIM?

    On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:51:41 -0800, "Joel Kolstad"
    <[email protected]> spewed:
    >> Plus, I shouldn't HAVE to pay for it, I'm paying for the minutes used and
    >> I wouldn't even be using them at the same time, so what do they care.

    >
    >In this case, why not simply transfer the SIM card back and forth?
    >
    >> It'd be simple enough on their part to just lock out a #2 phone trying to
    >> make a call while #1 was already connected to the network.
    >> So there wouldn't even be chance of conflict.

    >
    >It's a little trickier than that in the sense that whenever a new phone is
    >connected to the network, the entire network has to be queried to make sure
    >any other one with the same phone is presently connected and, if so, disable
    >it... unless it's in the middle of, say, a 911 call... or something
    >

    Yeah, I figured that.
    Would take a few microseconds and alot more net traffic, but I'd be
    willing to pay for it in an increased fee.
    Plus, it might even cut down on stolen phone codes - if that's still a
    problem for them.

    >I mean, it's certainly a solvable technical problem, but pretty much any
    >scheme you come up with is guaranteed to increase the number of support
    >calls Cingular has to handle, and it doesn't take many support calls before
    >an otherwise profitable customer becomes unprofitable.
    >

    It costs em next to nothing if their using one of those damn India call
    centers, which so far I haven't caught them doing - thank God.

    >By putting the onous on the consumer to change the SIM card, these issues
    >are avoided.
    >
    >> Cingular now offers $10 extra for an extra phone on your acct, but I can't
    >> combine the 2 I have because they're different area codes and one is an
    >> AT&T phone. DAMNIT!!!!

    >
    >You could forward one to the other.
    >

    Yeah, but they stick you big on charges for that don't they?
    Dunno for sure, didn't think of that, but good idea.
    Anybody know the exact specs on that?

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