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  1. #1
    Hierophant
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    Seeing EDGE speeds? According to the map, it is here. According to my V551
    that is about to go on eBay, it is not <wink>.





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  2. #2
    John Navas
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?

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    In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:00:18
    -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Seeing EDGE speeds? According to the map, it is here. According to my V551
    >that is about to go on eBay, it is not <wink>.


    What speeds did you see? The V551 is only EDGE Class 4, and thus is much
    slower than other EDGE devices (e.g., GC82), albeit still faster than GPRS.
    If you got more than 50 Kbps throughput, then you were on EDGE (actually
    EGPRS).

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  3. #3
    Hierophant
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    | [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    |
    | In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:00:18
    | -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:
    |
    | >Seeing EDGE speeds? According to the map, it is here. According to my
    V551
    | >that is about to go on eBay, it is not <wink>.
    |
    | What speeds did you see? The V551 is only EDGE Class 4, and thus is much
    | slower than other EDGE devices (e.g., GC82), albeit still faster than
    GPRS.
    | If you got more than 50 Kbps throughput, then you were on EDGE (actually
    | EGPRS).
    |

    36-38 .. same as with my T616.





  4. #4
    John Navas
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?

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    In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:48:43
    -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >|
    >| In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:00:18
    >| -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >|
    >| >Seeing EDGE speeds? According to the map, it is here. According to my
    >V551
    >| >that is about to go on eBay, it is not <wink>.
    >|
    >| What speeds did you see? The V551 is only EDGE Class 4, and thus is much
    >| slower than other EDGE devices (e.g., GC82), albeit still faster than
    >GPRS.
    >| If you got more than 50 Kbps throughput, then you were on EDGE (actually
    >| EGPRS).
    >|
    >
    >36-38 .. same as with my T616.


    That poor even for GPRS. Were you in a marginal signal area (which might
    explain the lack of higher speeds)?

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  5. #5
    Hierophant
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    | [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    |
    | In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:48:43
    | -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:
    |
    | >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    | >news:[email protected]...
    | >|
    | >| In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Jan 2005
    20:00:18
    | >| -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:
    | >|
    | >| >Seeing EDGE speeds? According to the map, it is here. According to my
    | >V551
    | >| >that is about to go on eBay, it is not <wink>.
    | >|
    | >| What speeds did you see? The V551 is only EDGE Class 4, and thus is
    much
    | >| slower than other EDGE devices (e.g., GC82), albeit still faster than
    | >GPRS.
    | >| If you got more than 50 Kbps throughput, then you were on EDGE
    (actually
    | >| EGPRS).
    | >|
    | >
    | >36-38 .. same as with my T616.
    |
    | That poor even for GPRS. Were you in a marginal signal area (which might
    | explain the lack of higher speeds)?
    |

    Not really poor, but not full signal either. I have also now tried from work
    with full signal ( on meter any way) and only achieved 48Kbps. All these
    results are from using various sized files from dslreports.com/mspeed.





  6. #6
    John Navas
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?

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    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:36:25
    -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Not really poor, but not full signal either. I have also now tried from work
    >with full signal ( on meter any way) and only achieved 48Kbps. All these
    >results are from using various sized files from dslreports.com/mspeed.


    I personally wouldn't trust dslreports even if paid to do so, because I've
    seen how far off it can be. I test speeds with FTP.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  7. #7
    Hierophant
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    | [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    |
    | In <[email protected]> on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:36:25
    | -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:
    |
    | >Not really poor, but not full signal either. I have also now tried from
    work
    | >with full signal ( on meter any way) and only achieved 48Kbps. All these
    | >results are from using various sized files from dslreports.com/mspeed.
    |
    | I personally wouldn't trust dslreports even if paid to do so, because I've
    | seen how far off it can be. I test speeds with FTP.
    |

    I use it a good bit to test a 3Mbps connection, so it should certainly be
    reliable enough for a simple GPRS/EDGE connection. FWIW, It doesn't transfer
    any file over my (supposed) EDGE connection faster than 5KB/s.





  8. #8
    John Navas
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?

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    In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:29:55
    -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...


    >| I personally wouldn't trust dslreports even if paid to do so, because I've
    >| seen how far off it can be. I test speeds with FTP.
    >
    >I use it a good bit to test a 3Mbps connection, so it should certainly be
    >reliable enough for a simple GPRS/EDGE connection. ...


    Since I've seen very wide variations on known circuits, I don't think so.

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  9. #9
    Hierophant
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    | [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    |
    | In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:29:55
    | -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:
    |
    | >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    | >news:[email protected]...
    |
    | >| I personally wouldn't trust dslreports even if paid to do so, because
    I've
    | >| seen how far off it can be. I test speeds with FTP.
    | >
    | >I use it a good bit to test a 3Mbps connection, so it should certainly be
    | >reliable enough for a simple GPRS/EDGE connection. ...
    |
    | Since I've seen very wide variations on known circuits, I don't think so.
    |

    I know so.





  10. #10
    John Navas
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?

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    In <[email protected]> on Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:18:20
    -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >|
    >| In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:29:55
    >| -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >|
    >| >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >| >news:[email protected]...
    >|
    >| >| I personally wouldn't trust dslreports even if paid to do so, because I've
    >| >| seen how far off it can be. I test speeds with FTP.
    >| >
    >| >I use it a good bit to test a 3Mbps connection, so it should certainly be
    >| >reliable enough for a simple GPRS/EDGE connection. ...
    >|
    >| Since I've seen very wide variations on known circuits, I don't think so.
    >
    >I know so.


    You can't possibly know what I've seen, now can you. ;-)

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  11. #11
    Hierophant
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    | [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    |
    | In <[email protected]> on Sat, 15 Jan 2005
    11:18:20
    | -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:
    |
    | >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    | >news:[email protected]...
    | >|
    | >| In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan 2005
    20:29:55
    | >| -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:
    | >|
    | >| >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    | >| >news:[email protected]...
    | >|
    | >| >| I personally wouldn't trust dslreports even if paid to do so,
    because I've
    | >| >| seen how far off it can be. I test speeds with FTP.
    | >| >
    | >| >I use it a good bit to test a 3Mbps connection, so it should certainly
    be
    | >| >reliable enough for a simple GPRS/EDGE connection. ...
    | >|
    | >| Since I've seen very wide variations on known circuits, I don't think
    so.
    | >
    | >I know so.
    |
    | You can't possibly know what I've seen, now can you. ;-)
    |

    No never said I did. But I do know the mspeed test is accurate to WAY over
    EDGE capable speeds. It also correlates with transfer rates and other speed
    tests I have tested my connection through my V551 with. At any rate, back to
    the original question





  12. #12
    John Navas
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?

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    In <[email protected]> on Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:28:09
    -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...


    >| You can't possibly know what I've seen, now can you. ;-)


    >No never said I did. But I do know the mspeed test is accurate to WAY over
    >EDGE capable speeds. ...


    With all due respect, you simply can't "know" that, given that I (and others)
    have seen wildly incorrect results. You can only "know" that it seems to have
    been accurate in *your* tests.

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  13. #13
    Hierophant
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    |
    | With all due respect, you simply can't "know" that, given that I (and
    others)
    | have seen wildly incorrect results. You can only "know" that it seems to
    have
    | been accurate in *your* tests.
    |

    Again, what I *know*, is it gives me exactly the same resuilts as any file
    transfers I do through the connection. Again, what I *know* is it gives me a
    true reading of my connection speed everytime I have used it through my
    wireless connection.

    Point being, I am simply looking for someone in Upstate, SC that has seen
    EDGE speeds, particularly on MEdia Works, as I am not getting them. I am not
    looking for an apologist to try and tell me I am getting the speeds, but my
    test methods are inaccurate. I am perfectly capable of testing and verifying
    my connections speeds.





  14. #14
    John Navas
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?

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    In <%[email protected]> on Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:15:53
    -0500, "Hierophant" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >|
    >| With all due respect, you simply can't "know" that, given that I (and
    >others)
    >| have seen wildly incorrect results. You can only "know" that it seems to
    >have
    >| been accurate in *your* tests.
    >|
    >
    >Again, what I *know*, is it gives me exactly the same resuilts as any file
    >transfers I do through the connection. Again, what I *know* is it gives me a
    >true reading of my connection speed everytime I have used it through my
    >wireless connection.
    >
    >Point being, I am simply looking for someone in Upstate, SC that has seen
    >EDGE speeds, particularly on MEdia Works, as I am not getting them. I am not
    >looking for an apologist to try and tell me I am getting the speeds, but my
    >test methods are inaccurate.


    That not-so-veiled insult is wrong on all three counts.

    >I am perfectly capable of testing and verifying
    >my connections speeds.


    Clearly you don't want any help. Whether you need any is another matter. ;-)

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  15. #15
    Hierophant
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    Re: Anyone in Upstate SC...?


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    | [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    |

    |
    | >I am perfectly capable of testing and verifying
    | >my connections speeds.
    |
    | Clearly you don't want any help. Whether you need any is another matter.
    ;-)
    |

    I don't need any help setting up my connection. I don't need any help
    testing my connection. I am perfectly capable. Like I originally posted, I
    need to know if anyone in my area has seen EDGE speeds.





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