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  1. #46
    Jiu JitSuperfly
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    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"


    "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > >
    > > > b) OnStar is not a satellite phone service.
    > > >

    > >
    > > They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all across

    the
    > > country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?

    >
    > Nope, its just a Verizon wireless setup



    No it's not. It's an AMPS based system.

    --
    JJS





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  2. #47
    Jack Zwick
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    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Jiu JitSuperfly" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > >
    > > > > b) OnStar is not a satellite phone service.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all across

    > the
    > > > country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?

    > >
    > > Nope, its just a Verizon wireless setup

    >
    >
    > No it's not. It's an AMPS based system.


    Duh. It's Verizon. go checkout www.onstar.com



  3. #48
    Jiu JitSuperfly
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"


    "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Jiu JitSuperfly" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > > "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > >
    > > > > > b) OnStar is not a satellite phone service.
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all

    across
    > > the
    > > > > country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?
    > > >
    > > > Nope, its just a Verizon wireless setup

    > >
    > >
    > > No it's not. It's an AMPS based system.

    >
    > Duh. It's Verizon. go checkout www.onstar.com



    Duh, no it's not. As usual your reading comprehension is quite deficient.
    They have a marketing agreement. Onstar works in places where Verizon has
    ZERO coverage.

    You need to quit trying to see things that aren't there.

    --
    JJS





  4. #49
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    Jeremy wrote:
    > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    >>b) OnStar is not a satellite phone service.
    >>

    >
    >
    > They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all across the
    > country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?


    If it was a pure satellite service, they wouldn't be advertising a Verizon
    Wireless promo on the onstar.com homepage. My understanding is that satellite
    may sometimes be involved -- but the service also depends largely on agreements
    with a number of different cellular networks (many, not just one, which is why
    they can advertise the kind of coverage they advertise).


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  5. #50
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    Jiu JitSuperfly wrote:
    >>Nope, its just a Verizon wireless setup

    >
    > No it's not. It's an AMPS based system.


    And Verizon Wireless has no AMPS?

    In fact, my Sprint phone roams analog on Verizon in spots up north of here
    where Sprint doesn't have native coverage, and I used to have a Verizon phone
    and had to force it to analog at my house because my house is just outside VZW
    digital coverage.

    Verizon isn't EXPANDING analog coverage, but they most definitely HAVE analog
    coverage.

    And OnStar is finally starting to provide digital phones with their service.

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    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED

    "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



  6. #51
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    Jiu JitSuperfly wrote:
    > Duh, no it's not. As usual your reading comprehension is quite deficient.
    > They have a marketing agreement. Onstar works in places where Verizon has
    > ZERO coverage.


    > You need to quit trying to see things that aren't there.


    What part of "Onstar has agreements with several cellular carriers" are you
    failing to comprehend?

    You can't work with just one carrier and guarantee nationwide coverage. Even
    the biggest carriers don't have comprehensive coverage.

    --
    JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET (4638)
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED

    "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



  7. #52
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"


    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Jeremy wrote:
    > > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >
    > >>b) OnStar is not a satellite phone service.
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > > They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all across

    the
    > > country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?

    >
    > If it was a pure satellite service, they wouldn't be advertising a Verizon
    > Wireless promo on the onstar.com homepage. My understanding is that

    satellite
    > may sometimes be involved -- but the service also depends largely on

    agreements
    > with a number of different cellular networks (many, not just one, which is

    why
    > they can advertise the kind of coverage they advertise).
    >
    >
    > --

    I think the satellites are used for GPS, not communication.





  8. #53
    Kevin K
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:42:39 -0800, Steve Sobol wrote:

    > Jeremy wrote:
    >> "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>
    >>>b) OnStar is not a satellite phone service.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all across
    >> the country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?

    >
    > If it was a pure satellite service, they wouldn't be advertising a Verizon
    > Wireless promo on the onstar.com homepage. My understanding is that
    > satellite may sometimes be involved -- but the service also depends
    > largely on agreements with a number of different cellular networks (many,
    > not just one, which is why they can advertise the kind of coverage they
    > advertise).


    Many people are confused about Onstar. Satellites are involved, for the
    GPS portion of the product, and people think that you get satellite phone
    service.

    The fact that Onstar works in some areas that normal cell phones don't has
    a lot to do with the fact it still supports analog, and a builtin phone
    with a car battery behind it can give it coverage in areas the little
    battery in a GSM only phone can't helps.


    I would think that Satellite service would be a nice feature for really
    out in the boonies would be useful. As a followup so you don't pay
    $1/minute. I don't know if they have that as a plan for whenever AMPS
    starts to go away, if and when it does.



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  9. #54
    Bill Radio
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    > It remains to be seen
    > whether they will use that first 5 years to construct a network of their
    > own, slowly weaning customers off Sprint towers as new AT&T towers go up.


    No, The AT&T Corporation does not own any wireless spectrum. They cannot
    construct any of their own towers. They have "hinted" that they might sign
    their agreement with "other" carriers, but the most likely "other" carrier
    was Nextel, and that will soon be a part of Sprint anyway.

    >They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all across the
    >country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?


    They are advertising? Please provide a reference, I'd like to read it.
    Yes, AT&T can supply a service that works "all across the country", just
    like Qwest Wireless is now. Their "Cross Country" plan means you can use
    all of the Sprint network and all of their roaming partners, which covers
    possibly the largest total area of all carriers.

    Bill Radio
    Click for Western U.S. Wireless Reviews at:
    http://www.mountainwireless.com





  10. #55
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Jiu JitSuperfly" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > "Jiu JitSuperfly" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > > "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > > > "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > b) OnStar is not a satellite phone service.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all

    > across
    > > > the
    > > > > > country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?
    > > > >
    > > > > Nope, its just a Verizon wireless setup
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > No it's not. It's an AMPS based system.

    > >
    > > Duh. It's Verizon. go checkout www.onstar.com

    >
    >
    > Duh, no it's not. As usual your reading comprehension is quite deficient.
    > They have a marketing agreement. Onstar works in places where Verizon has
    > ZERO coverage.
    >
    > You need to quit trying to see things that aren't there.


    I guess you never heard of roaming. Onstar is Verizon.



  11. #56
    Jiu JitSuperfly
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"


    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Jiu JitSuperfly wrote:
    > > Duh, no it's not. As usual your reading comprehension is quite

    deficient.
    > > They have a marketing agreement. Onstar works in places where Verizon

    has
    > > ZERO coverage.

    >
    > > You need to quit trying to see things that aren't there.

    >
    > What part of "Onstar has agreements with several cellular carriers" are

    you
    > failing to comprehend?
    >
    > You can't work with just one carrier and guarantee nationwide coverage.

    Even
    > the biggest carriers don't have comprehensive coverage.


    Again reading comprehension comes into play. I was making the point that
    Onstar is not a Verizon only service provider you snot licking moron. Now go
    take your seat on the back of the short bus and shut up. Let the grown ups
    talk.

    --
    JJS





  12. #57
    Jiu JitSuperfly
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"


    "Joseph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:43:00 -0600, "Jiu JitSuperfly"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]...
    > >> In article <[email protected]>,
    > >> "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >
    > >> > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >> > >
    > >> > > b) OnStar is not a satellite phone service.
    > >> > >
    > >> >
    > >> > They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all

    across
    > >the
    > >> > country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?
    > >>
    > >> Nope, its just a Verizon wireless setup

    > >
    > >
    > >No it's not. It's an AMPS based system.

    >
    > Make that it *was* just AMPS based. On new models it's now CDMA and
    > AMPS.



    My 03 Escalade is AMPS only.

    --
    JJS





  13. #58
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Jiu JitSuperfly" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Joseph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:43:00 -0600, "Jiu JitSuperfly"
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > >"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > >news:[email protected]...
    > > >> In article <[email protected]>,
    > > >> "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >> >
    > > >> > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > >> > >
    > > >> > > b) OnStar is not a satellite phone service.
    > > >> > >
    > > >> >
    > > >> > They have been advertising a mobile phone service that works all

    > across
    > > >the
    > > >> > country. Could it be anything other than a satellite-based service?
    > > >>
    > > >> Nope, its just a Verizon wireless setup
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >No it's not. It's an AMPS based system.

    > >
    > > Make that it *was* just AMPS based. On new models it's now CDMA and
    > > AMPS.

    >
    >
    > My 03 Escalade is AMPS only.


    Duh 03 is not the new model.



  14. #59
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Jiu JitSuperfly" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Jiu JitSuperfly wrote:
    > > > Duh, no it's not. As usual your reading comprehension is quite

    > deficient.
    > > > They have a marketing agreement. Onstar works in places where Verizon

    > has
    > > > ZERO coverage.

    > >
    > > > You need to quit trying to see things that aren't there.

    > >
    > > What part of "Onstar has agreements with several cellular carriers" are

    > you
    > > failing to comprehend?
    > >
    > > You can't work with just one carrier and guarantee nationwide coverage.

    > Even
    > > the biggest carriers don't have comprehensive coverage.

    >
    > Again reading comprehension comes into play. I was making the point that
    > Onstar is not a Verizon only service provider you snot licking moron. Now go
    > take your seat on the back of the short bus and shut up. Let the grown ups
    > talk.


    Why the insults. so childish.



  15. #60
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: "Sprint Sells Service To AT&T Mobile"

    Jack Zwick wrote:

    >>My 03 Escalade is AMPS only.

    >
    > Duh 03 is not the new model.


    Nope. And given the new model year cycles. an '03 Escalade could conceivably
    have been bought in late summer of '02. I'm pretty sure the OnStar CDMA push
    only started in the last 12 to 18 months.

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    "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



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