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  1. #1
    John Navas
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    <http://www.wirelessweek.com/index.asp?layout=document&doc_id=1340003008>

    Cingular Wireless has agreed to fork over $5.1 million in back wages
    to more than 25,000 call center workers, according to the U.S.
    Department of Labor. Cingular made no admission of liability as part
    of the resolution.

    The back pay settlement was reached as a result of alleged violations
    of the Fair Labor Standards Act's overtime provisions. Specifically,
    call center workers in Springfield, Ill., alleged Cingular failed to
    pay them for overtime work. Following the complaint, Cingular
    initiated a self-audit of its call centers.

    ...

    In 2003, rival T-Mobile USA agreed to pay $4.7 million in back wages
    for alleged overtime violations.

    [MORE]

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



    See More: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"




  2. #2
    Jack Zwick
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    Re: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"

    In article <[email protected]>,
    John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

    > <http://www.wirelessweek.com/index.asp?layout=document&doc_id=1340003008>
    >
    > Cingular Wireless has agreed to fork over $5.1 million in back wages
    > to more than 25,000 call center workers, according to the U.S.
    > Department of Labor. Cingular made no admission of liability as part
    > of the resolution.
    >
    > The back pay settlement was reached as a result of alleged violations
    > of the Fair Labor Standards Act's overtime provisions. Specifically,
    > call center workers in Springfield, Ill., alleged Cingular failed to
    > pay them for overtime work. Following the complaint, Cingular
    > initiated a self-audit of its call centers.
    >
    > ...
    >
    > In 2003, rival T-Mobile USA agreed to pay $4.7 million in back wages
    > for alleged overtime violations.
    >
    > [MORE]
    >
    > --
    > Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



    Cingular was cheating its employees???



  3. #3
    Marius
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    Re: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"

    I guess it doesn't make a difference that cingular is "ALL AMERICAN
    OWNED" Pathetic how we screw ourselves.




  4. #4
    Tropical Haven
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    Re: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"

    Marius wrote:
    > I guess it doesn't make a difference that cingular is "ALL AMERICAN
    > OWNED" Pathetic how we screw ourselves.


    Unfortunately, it doesn't.

    Other Examples:

    Sunbeam - Overstating inventory
    MCI/WorldCom - We all know about them
    Enron - We all know about them, too
    Aurthur Anderson - In with Enron
    Haliburton - Don't like politics...won't go there
    Tyco - another overstating story.







  5. #5
    Stanley Reynolds
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    Re: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"

    <snip>
    > Enron - We all know about them, too
    > Aurthur Anderson - In with Enron

    <snip>
    From Fortune October 27,2003:

    Partners in Crime

    J.P. Morgan Chase
    Citigroup
    Merrill Lynch
    plus
    Deutsche Bank
    Barclays
    CIBC
    And many other banks that provided the loans that made Enron executives
    rich.

    The sad part was so many people knew what was going on for a long time but
    Sherron Watkins was the only one to spill the beans. My point is that
    without other people's money these crimes are not possible. If we as
    consumers make the large companies pay with the loss of our small payments
    then they will be forced to be fair to their employees. All I have to do is
    give up my cell phones :-( and not shop at Walmart and never buy anything
    made in China with slave labor. Oh well maybe Cingular has learned their
    lesson and I can keep my phone, but do you think it is ok for me to eat
    dinner if the wife was the one who shopped at Walmart ?





  6. #6
    Jack Zwick
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    Re: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Stanley Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > <snip>
    > > Enron - We all know about them, too
    > > Aurthur Anderson - In with Enron

    > <snip>
    > From Fortune October 27,2003:
    >
    > Partners in Crime
    >
    > J.P. Morgan Chase
    > Citigroup
    > Merrill Lynch
    > plus
    > Deutsche Bank
    > Barclays
    > CIBC
    > And many other banks that provided the loans that made Enron executives
    > rich.
    >
    > The sad part was so many people knew what was going on for a long time but
    > Sherron Watkins was the only one to spill the beans. My point is that
    > without other people's money these crimes are not possible. If we as
    > consumers make the large companies pay with the loss of our small payments
    > then they will be forced to be fair to their employees. All I have to do is
    > give up my cell phones :-( and not shop at Walmart and never buy anything
    > made in China with slave labor. Oh well maybe Cingular has learned their
    > lesson and I can keep my phone, but do you think it is ok for me to eat
    > dinner if the wife was the one who shopped at Walmart ?


    No, you MUST stop eating until Walmart goes out of business.



  7. #7
    John S.
    Guest

    Re: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"

    >"ALL AMERICAN
    >> OWNED"


    In a world market that we are now in this really makes little sense to the more
    intelligent of us.

    There are a lot of things that American companys are invested in in the rest of
    the world and vise versa.

    Any one who is still thinking "Buy American" doesn't have a real grasp of
    reality anymore.

    As an example, Ford owns Volvo, Kia, 50<something)% of Mazda, Jaguar, and
    others..... A world company. The new Ford 500 is built on a Volvo chasis.

    Nokia makes handsets in Irving, Texas.

    I could go on but hopefully you get the idea that I am tying to get across.

    --
    John S.
    e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net



  8. #8
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:

    > >"ALL AMERICAN
    > >> OWNED"

    >
    > In a world market that we are now in this really makes little sense to the
    > more
    > intelligent of us.
    >
    > There are a lot of things that American companys are invested in in the rest
    > of
    > the world and vise versa.
    >
    > Any one who is still thinking "Buy American" doesn't have a real grasp of
    > reality anymore.
    >
    > As an example, Ford owns Volvo, Kia, 50<something)% of Mazda, Jaguar, and
    > others..... A world company. The new Ford 500 is built on a Volvo chasis.
    >
    > Nokia makes handsets in Irving, Texas.
    >
    > I could go on but hopefully you get the idea that I am tying to get across.


    We'll remember your post when your job gets eliminated and you're
    replaced by someone in India



  9. #9
    John S
    Guest

    Re: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"

    My job can't be eliminated and replaced by someone in India. Plain and
    simple.

    However, if I were in that position I would simply have to recognize the
    facts of the situation. We are a world economy now and not "Buy American" as
    it might have been 15 years ago.

    ALL Honda cars sold in the USA are made in America. All Toyota ..... I could
    go on and on.

    Stupidity causes all sorts of things. When Regan imposed an additional tax
    on large motorcycles made on foreign soil, there were only 3 bikes affected.
    All the rest of them were made in the good ole USA. For instance all
    Kawasaki motorcycles, snow mobiles, ATV's etc - ALL Kaw's are made in the
    USA that are sold here.

    But for my job, I don't do "customer support" in a call center that can be
    located anyplace in the world. I do localized engineering and project
    management.
    --
    John S
    E-Mail to john at kiana dot net

    "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:
    >
    >> >"ALL AMERICAN
    >> >> OWNED"

    >
    > We'll remember your post when your job gets eliminated and you're
    > replaced by someone in India






  10. #10
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: "Cingular To Pay Back Wages"

    In article <MgZJd.7836$IJ5.1505@okepread02>,
    "John S" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > My job can't be eliminated and replaced by someone in India. Plain and
    > simple.
    >
    > However, if I were in that position I would simply have to recognize the
    > facts of the situation. We are a world economy now and not "Buy American" as
    > it might have been 15 years ago.
    >
    > ALL Honda cars sold in the USA are made in America. All Toyota ..... I could
    > go on and on.
    >
    > Stupidity causes all sorts of things. When Regan imposed an additional tax
    > on large motorcycles made on foreign soil, there were only 3 bikes affected.
    > All the rest of them were made in the good ole USA. For instance all
    > Kawasaki motorcycles, snow mobiles, ATV's etc - ALL Kaw's are made in the
    > USA that are sold here.
    >
    > But for my job, I don't do "customer support" in a call center that can be
    > located anyplace in the world. I do localized engineering and project
    > management.


    And you think that can't be computerized and outsourced? Schlumberger is
    moving their engineering and project management to Beijing, China.



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