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  1. #1
    Jack Zwick
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    <http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050130/sbc_at_t_9.html>

    side effects:

    No need for AT&T to start a new wireless operation (AT&T Mobile) when
    they are part of SBC which is the majority owner of Cingular. So no need
    to use SprintPCS network. Bad for SprintPCS, good for Cingular

    No need to worry about stopping to use AT&T Wireless name on April 23,
    or removing AT&T Wireless name from all the stores where it still is.
    SBC which owns the majority of Cingular will also own AT&T, and tell
    AT&T to not complain.



    See More: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T




  2. #2
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    Jack Zwick wrote:
    > <http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050130/sbc_at_t_9.html>
    >
    > side effects:
    >
    > No need for AT&T to start a new wireless operation (AT&T Mobile) when
    > they are part of SBC which is the majority owner of Cingular. So no need
    > to use SprintPCS network. Bad for SprintPCS, good for Cingular


    Hey Phillipe, I thought you weren't going to post here (a.c.spcs) anymore. Said
    you were leaving because you were fed up with Sprint and with us.

    Guess you lied? (not a big surprise)

    --
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    "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



  3. #3
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    Jack Zwick wrote:
    > <http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050130/sbc_at_t_9.html>
    >
    > side effects:
    >
    > No need for AT&T to start a new wireless operation (AT&T Mobile) when
    > they are part of SBC which is the majority owner of Cingular. So no need
    > to use SprintPCS network. Bad for SprintPCS, good for Cingular



    Not really. Maybe good for CIngular, but a lot has happened since the
    AT&T/Sprint deal was announced, such as the Nextel merger.

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    Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.



  4. #4
    Jack Zwick
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    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Jack Zwick wrote:
    > > <http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050130/sbc_at_t_9.html>
    > >
    > > side effects:
    > >
    > > No need for AT&T to start a new wireless operation (AT&T Mobile) when
    > > they are part of SBC which is the majority owner of Cingular. So no need
    > > to use SprintPCS network. Bad for SprintPCS, good for Cingular

    >
    >
    > Not really. Maybe good for CIngular, but a lot has happened since the
    > AT&T/Sprint deal was announced, such as the Nextel merger.


    Keep dreaming that AT&T would use SprintPCS
    if they're being bought by SBC. Sprint was counting those AT&T bucks,
    that now they wont get.



  5. #5
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T


    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Jack Zwick wrote:
    > > <http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050130/sbc_at_t_9.html>
    > >
    > > side effects:
    > >
    > > No need for AT&T to start a new wireless operation (AT&T Mobile) when
    > > they are part of SBC which is the majority owner of Cingular. So no need
    > > to use SprintPCS network. Bad for SprintPCS, good for Cingular

    >
    > Hey Phillipe, I thought you weren't going to post here (a.c.spcs) anymore.

    Said
    > you were leaving because you were fed up with Sprint and with us.
    >
    > Guess you lied? (not a big surprise)


    Yup ... It's ole Phillipe, and showing what a liar he is, when he said he'd
    never post in the group again.

    Bob





  6. #6
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    Jack Zwick wrote:

    >>Not really. Maybe good for CIngular, but a lot has happened since the
    >>AT&T/Sprint deal was announced, such as the Nextel merger.

    >
    > Keep dreaming that AT&T would use SprintPCS
    > if they're being bought by SBC. Sprint was counting those AT&T bucks,
    > that now they wont get.


    Hello, He Who Swore He'd Never Post To Alt.Sprintpcs Again:

    The point was that with the Nextel deal, the loss of AT&T isn't going to have
    the impact that it originally might have. Why'd you lie about posting to the
    SPCS newsgroup?

    --
    JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET (4638)
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED

    "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



  7. #7
    N9WOS
    Guest

    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    > No need for AT&T to start a new wireless operation (AT&T Mobile) when
    > they are part of SBC which is the majority owner of Cingular. So no need
    > to use SprintPCS network. Bad for SprintPCS, good for Cingular
    >
    > No need to worry about stopping to use AT&T Wireless name on April 23,
    > or removing AT&T Wireless name from all the stores where it still is.
    > SBC which owns the majority of Cingular will also own AT&T, and tell
    > AT&T to not complain.


    Side note......
    (Besides the fact that my internet connection will probably be screwed.)

    I hope SBC keeps the AT&T name.
    (ie)The final combined company will carry the ATT name.

    It was all ATT before the breakup, it would be sad for SBC to officially
    bring such a long lived brand to an end, instead of accepting the name
    as their own, because at one time, it was the name they went by.

    (all right, my sentimental streak is showing)





  8. #8
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > No need for AT&T to start a new wireless operation (AT&T Mobile) when
    > > they are part of SBC which is the majority owner of Cingular. So no need
    > > to use SprintPCS network. Bad for SprintPCS, good for Cingular
    > >
    > > No need to worry about stopping to use AT&T Wireless name on April 23,
    > > or removing AT&T Wireless name from all the stores where it still is.
    > > SBC which owns the majority of Cingular will also own AT&T, and tell
    > > AT&T to not complain.

    >
    > Side note......
    > (Besides the fact that my internet connection will probably be screwed.)
    >
    > I hope SBC keeps the AT&T name.
    > (ie)The final combined company will carry the ATT name.


    Use the ATT name yes, replace SBC, not.

    >
    > It was all ATT before the breakup, it would be sad for SBC to officially
    > bring such a long lived brand to an end, instead of accepting the name
    > as their own, because at one time, it was the name they went by.
    >
    > (all right, my sentimental streak is showing)


    Some reports I've seen and read have said AT&T name will be kept,
    although there will be thousands of layoffs. They're guestimating 17
    months for regulatory approvals, Federal, State, Foreign.

    Rumors are another one or more "Baby Bell" will now acquire MCI and/or
    Sprint.

    My guess (and that's all it is) is that AT&T name will be kept for high
    end business sales, and SBC / Cingular brands for consumer sales.



  9. #9
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Mon, 31 Jan
    2005 03:06:22 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

    ><http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050130/sbc_at_t_9.html>
    >
    >side effects:
    >
    >No need for AT&T to start a new wireless operation (AT&T Mobile) when
    >they are part of SBC which is the majority owner of Cingular. So no need
    >to use SprintPCS network. Bad for SprintPCS, good for Cingular
    >
    >No need to worry about stopping to use AT&T Wireless name on April 23,
    >or removing AT&T Wireless name from all the stores where it still is.
    >SBC which owns the majority of Cingular will also own AT&T, and tell
    >AT&T to not complain.


    In other words, you were wrong. Imagine that.

    --
    Best regards,
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>

    "A little learning is a dangerous thing." [Alexander Pope]
    "It is better to sit in silence and appear ignorant,
    than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." [Mark Twain]



  10. #10
    Joe Fabeitz
    Guest

    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    The breakup was 21 years ago. Get over it, already ...or become a "ZWICK".
    "N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > > No need for AT&T to start a new wireless operation (AT&T Mobile) when
    > > they are part of SBC which is the majority owner of Cingular. So no need
    > > to use SprintPCS network. Bad for SprintPCS, good for Cingular
    > >
    > > No need to worry about stopping to use AT&T Wireless name on April 23,
    > > or removing AT&T Wireless name from all the stores where it still is.
    > > SBC which owns the majority of Cingular will also own AT&T, and tell
    > > AT&T to not complain.

    >
    > Side note......
    > (Besides the fact that my internet connection will probably be screwed.)
    >
    > I hope SBC keeps the AT&T name.
    > (ie)The final combined company will carry the ATT name.
    >
    > It was all ATT before the breakup, it would be sad for SBC to officially
    > bring such a long lived brand to an end, instead of accepting the name
    > as their own, because at one time, it was the name they went by.
    >
    > (all right, my sentimental streak is showing)
    >
    >






  11. #11
    Isaiah Beard
    Guest

    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    Jack Zwick wrote:

    >>Not really. Maybe good for CIngular, but a lot has happened since the
    >>AT&T/Sprint deal was announced, such as the Nextel merger.

    >
    >
    > Keep dreaming that AT&T would use SprintPCS


    I didn't say they would be. What I *AM* saying is that the MVNO isn't
    needed for Sprint's success.


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  12. #12
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Jack Zwick wrote:
    >
    > >>Not really. Maybe good for CIngular, but a lot has happened since the
    > >>AT&T/Sprint deal was announced, such as the Nextel merger.

    > >
    > >
    > > Keep dreaming that AT&T would use SprintPCS

    >
    > I didn't say they would be. What I *AM* saying is that the MVNO isn't
    > needed for Sprint's success.


    I didnt say it was, I just said Sprint is apparently going to lose the
    big chunk of revenue it was expecting from AT&T Mobile's MVNO.



  13. #13
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T


    "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Jack Zwick wrote:
    > >
    > > >>Not really. Maybe good for CIngular, but a lot has happened since the
    > > >>AT&T/Sprint deal was announced, such as the Nextel merger.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Keep dreaming that AT&T would use SprintPCS

    > >
    > > I didn't say they would be. What I *AM* saying is that the MVNO isn't
    > > needed for Sprint's success.

    >
    > I didnt say it was, I just said Sprint is apparently going to lose the
    > big chunk of revenue it was expecting from AT&T Mobile's MVNO.


    You've said a lot of things Phillipe ... All which don't mean diddley squat
    ....

    Bob::Remembering when Phillipe predicted that SPCS would go belly up last
    year 14 months ago::





  14. #14
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 01 Feb
    2005 16:37:46 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    > Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Jack Zwick wrote:
    >>
    >> >>Not really. Maybe good for CIngular, but a lot has happened since the
    >> >>AT&T/Sprint deal was announced, such as the Nextel merger.
    >> >
    >> > Keep dreaming that AT&T would use SprintPCS

    >>
    >> I didn't say they would be. What I *AM* saying is that the MVNO isn't
    >> needed for Sprint's success.

    >
    >I didnt say it was, I just said Sprint is apparently going to lose the
    >big chunk of revenue it was expecting from AT&T Mobile's MVNO.


    It wasn't a "big chunk of revenue" -- it was only marketed as part of a bundle
    of business communications services, and reportedly with only limited success.
    Sprint has much bigger fish to fry.

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    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  15. #15
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: Done Deal. SBC to buy AT&T

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Jack Zwick wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >>Not really. Maybe good for CIngular, but a lot has happened since the
    > > > >>AT&T/Sprint deal was announced, such as the Nextel merger.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Keep dreaming that AT&T would use SprintPCS
    > > >
    > > > I didn't say they would be. What I *AM* saying is that the MVNO isn't
    > > > needed for Sprint's success.

    > >
    > > I didnt say it was, I just said Sprint is apparently going to lose the
    > > big chunk of revenue it was expecting from AT&T Mobile's MVNO.

    >
    > You've said a lot of things ... All which don't mean diddley squat


    Nor do your insults. Big men talk ideas, little men talk personalities
    as Eleanor Roosevelt said.

    > ...
    >
    > Bob::Remembering when it was predicted that SPCS would go belly up last
    > year 14 months ago::


    We don't know if they would have as they were resorbed back into Sprint,
    and there finances aren't fully independantly reported anymore.

    Meanwhile with SBC trying to buy AT&T, word on Wall Street is that
    Verizon and Bell South will now chose up between MCI and Sprint, so each
    can have their own long distance set up. So Verizon tries to buy Sprint,
    and FTC makes it spin off SprintPCS to allow the merger, and then
    SprintPCS will again have to honestly report its finances.



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