Best Bluetooth/GPRS Edge Phone

I recently went with Cingular and got the V551 but am extremely
disappointed with battery time. I have always like Motorola phones but
this one disappointed me. My question, are there any others I should
look at that may be better?
I have looked at the Mokia 6620 but I prefer flip phones and I had bad
experience with the one Nokia I had. I see Motorola has a Razr V3 and
a MPx220. Are these phones any better? As well, I am considering the
Sony Ericson S710A but that seems very pricy and more than I need.
Are there any others from Sony or Samsung I should look at, even if it
means getting an unlocked phone? The important thing to me once again
is battery time, bluetooth (since I use it tethered ot my PocketPC and
use a headset) as well as GPRS and Edge is important.

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MarkW (removenospam) wrote:
> I have looked at the Mokia 6620 but I prefer flip phones and I had
bad
> experience with the one Nokia I had. I see Motorola has a Razr V3
and
> a MPx220. Are these phones any better?

Bluetooth will kill any battery quickly. You're effectively asking the
phone to run two radio systems at once.

My 6620 is very nice. EDGE is capped out at 118k though; class 10 would
have been nice.

RAZR V3 doesn't have EDGE. What were they thinking????

tg.

tom glaab wrote:

> MarkW (removenospam) wrote:
>
>>I have looked at the Mokia 6620 but I prefer flip phones and I had
>
> bad
>
>>experience with the one Nokia I had. I see Motorola has a Razr V3
>
> and
>
>>a MPx220. Are these phones any better?
>
>
> Bluetooth will kill any battery quickly. You're effectively asking the
> phone to run two radio systems at once.

Oh, come one Tom, that sounds like an exaggeration to me. BT is so
short range, I can't imagine it needing more than a few microwatts,
certainly no where near the requirements of WIFI or GSM voice.

>
> My 6620 is very nice. EDGE is capped out at 118k though; class 10 would
> have been nice.
>
> RAZR V3 doesn't have EDGE. What were they thinking????
>

They were thinking glitz, not gutz.

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jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

It is sad they left Edge out of the V3. If I saw right though the
6620 is Edge Class 10. I"m interested in the Samsung SGH-Z500 and
that will have UMTS, not sure about Edge but that is a ways off.

"Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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SNIP

>>
>> Bluetooth will kill any battery quickly. You're effectively asking the
>> phone to run two radio systems at once.
>
> Oh, come one Tom, that sounds like an exaggeration to me. BT is so short
> range, I can't imagine it needing more than a few microwatts, certainly no
> where near the requirements of WIFI or GSM voice.
>
>>
SNIP

I don't know the power requirements for bluetooth but I do know that running
BT will drain your battery. As an example, my Palm T3 battery will go for 3
1/2 to 4 hours without BT and will barely go an hour with it. That said when
running a BT phone tethered to a PDA it's the PDA battery that you have to
worry about not the phone.

Cheers
TC

Using Motorola, V710 AudioVox VX6600 , Blackberry all with BT, I did
not find any battery drain due to BT. I found the internet access EVDO
(400kbs-2Mbs) was not disconnecting on the VX600 and fixing that avoid
the battery drain. Perhaps you have an EDGE/GRPS connection draining
the battery?

Not what I'm seeing on my 6230. I run BT all the time. Not noticed any
battery problem; but then I leave it the the charger overnight, every night.

Don
"Tony Clark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> SNIP
>
>>>
>>> Bluetooth will kill any battery quickly. You're effectively asking the
>>> phone to run two radio systems at once.
>>
>> Oh, come one Tom, that sounds like an exaggeration to me. BT is so short
>> range, I can't imagine it needing more than a few microwatts, certainly
>> no where near the requirements of WIFI or GSM voice.
>>
>>>
> SNIP
>
> I don't know the power requirements for bluetooth but I do know that
> running BT will drain your battery. As an example, my Palm T3 battery will
> go for 3 1/2 to 4 hours without BT and will barely go an hour with it.
> That said when running a BT phone tethered to a PDA it's the PDA battery
> that you have to worry about not the phone.
>
> Cheers
> TC
>

"Don Udel (ETC)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Not what I'm seeing on my 6230. I run BT all the time. Not noticed any
> battery problem; but then I leave it the the charger overnight, every
> night.
>
> Don
>SNIP

What do you mean by "running BT all the time"? Are you transfering pics or
are you using it for data transfer like email, web pages etc? The reason I
ask is because transfering pics is usually a small amount of data for a
short period of time whereas email and web surfing can be much more data for
extended periods. It's true that my phone battery last longer running BT
than my PDA but then the phone is not trying to drive a large (ie power
hungry) color screen and 400 Mhz processor.

Cheers
TC

Using it for the headset full time.

Don
"Tony Clark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Don Udel (ETC)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Not what I'm seeing on my 6230. I run BT all the time. Not noticed any
>> battery problem; but then I leave it the the charger overnight, every
>> night.
>>
>> Don
>>SNIP
>
> What do you mean by "running BT all the time"? Are you transfering pics or
> are you using it for data transfer like email, web pages etc? The reason I
> ask is because transfering pics is usually a small amount of data for a
> short period of time whereas email and web surfing can be much more data
> for extended periods. It's true that my phone battery last longer running
> BT than my PDA but then the phone is not trying to drive a large (ie power
> hungry) color screen and 400 Mhz processor.
>
> Cheers
> TC
>
>

Before you buy a Sony Ericsson S710a, do a Google Groups search for
"s710a" (without quotes) and read about the problems setting up POP3
email for Gmail or any other email provider. The automated setups from
the Sony Ericsson website work just fine, but there is no automated
setup for Gmail. And nobody, as far as I can tell, has figured out how
to successfully do a manual email setup for Gmail POP3. I have been
all over the Internet searching and have called Sony Ericsson and
Cingular Wireless - still nobody knows how to do it so that it will
work. Maybe somebody here has figured it out. Have you?

BigEagleTalon wrote:
> And nobody, as far as I can tell, has figured out how
> to successfully do a manual email setup for Gmail POP3.

Have you looked at Gmail's instructions for setting up Gmail POP3
(http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/...y?answer=13287)? It's
quite straightforward and works well on my Nokia 6620. I'm not familiar
with the SE 710a mail setup, but if it supports POP3S then you should
be alright.

tg.

Yes, I have been everywhere. Apparently, at least according to
Cingular Wireless, "there is no agreement" between Gmail and Cingular
Wireless to setup Gmail POP3 email access. I got this information from
the tier-2 tech support at Cingular Wireless. Maybe because the Sony
Ericsson S710a uses different technology or a different provider than
yours. My phone can use GSM/GPRS/EDGE technology (EDGE Class 10 - the
fastest EDGE technology - and EDGE is the fastest of the three),
although there are no EDGE networks yet in my immediate area (not at my
home address, anyway). The GSM bands are 850/1800/1900.

BigEagleTalon wrote:
> Maybe because the Sony
> Ericsson S710a uses different technology or a different provider than
> yours. My phone can use GSM/GPRS/EDGE technology,

Yep, just like my 6620 -- GSM/GPRS/EDGE, GSM 850/1800/1900. I poked
around a little and it sounds like the SE phone may have issues with
POP3S (not surprising since the "S" is for X.509 certificate handling,
and I've found that different clients don't do X.509 too well).

tg.