64K Sim Card and Moto V180

Hello,
My wife has a Motorola V180 with Cingular as her service provider and
has a terrible time with *lots* of dropped calls. The Cingular store rep
talked her out of trading it by saying he would re-program it ... and now
the 30 day trade in period has lapsed, and now he says he cannot trade her
for a new (better) phone as his hands are tied. I am seeing the posts
regarding the 64K Sim cards enabling the phones to access the available
towers more efficiently and am wondering first, if a 64K Sim would work in
the V180 and second, if this might (possibly would/could) help my wife's
dropped call problem. The dropped calls happen (naturally) more often in a
rural area, but are in no way limited to rural areas. My daughter has a
Nokia and doesn't seem to experience the same problem, so I don't think
location has that much to do with the problem. I have looked all over the
web for review sites and almost everywhere I look, the reviews of the
Motorola V180 are positive.

Would the upgraded Sim card help? Or did my Wife get one of the few Lemon
V180 phones?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

RCM

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Bob Maples wrote:
> Hello,
> My wife has a Motorola V180 with Cingular as her service provider and
> has a terrible time with *lots* of dropped calls. The Cingular store rep
> talked her out of trading it by saying he would re-program it ... and now
> the 30 day trade in period has lapsed, and now he says he cannot trade her
> for a new (better) phone as his hands are tied. I am seeing the posts
> regarding the 64K Sim cards enabling the phones to access the available
> towers more efficiently and am wondering first, if a 64K Sim would work in
> the V180 and second, if this might (possibly would/could) help my wife's
> dropped call problem. The dropped calls happen (naturally) more often in a
> rural area, but are in no way limited to rural areas. My daughter has a
> Nokia and doesn't seem to experience the same problem, so I don't think
> location has that much to do with the problem. I have looked all over the
> web for review sites and almost everywhere I look, the reviews of the
> Motorola V180 are positive.

I have a Moto V505, and my dropped call problem was alleviated when I
restarted my phone (I do this on a daily basis). Cell phones are
computers, and just like it's good to restart a computer on a daily
basis, it's good to restart a mobile on a regular basis.

> Would the upgraded Sim card help? Or did my Wife get one of the few Lemon
> V180 phones?

The upgraded SIM will only help if you are in an area where ATTWS signal
is stronger than Cingular legacy signal, and it will allow you to use
ATTWS as your primary home system. However, if you go this route, and
you find yourself in an area where Cingular legacy is stronger, you will
experience the weakened ATTWS signal.

> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> RCM
>
>

"Bob Maples" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> My wife has a Motorola V180 with Cingular as her service provider and
> has a terrible time with *lots* of dropped calls. The Cingular store rep
> talked her out of trading it by saying he would re-program it ... and now
> the 30 day trade in period has lapsed, and now he says he cannot trade her
> for a new (better) phone as his hands are tied. I am seeing the posts
> regarding the 64K Sim cards enabling the phones to access the available
> towers more efficiently and am wondering first, if a 64K Sim would work in
> the V180 and second, if this might (possibly would/could) help my wife's
> dropped call problem.

If your phone is just past the trading period, it probably will accept a 64K
sim. However, only cingular can tell you if a 64K sim will help or not.
What you need to do is to walk into a Cingular store (not a cingular
authorized dealer, a Cingular store) and ask to see the coverage map on
Cingular's computer for the area you want to improve coverage in. You have
to see it on the Cingular computer, as that is the only place you will see a
fairly accurate representation of ALL GSM coverage in the area. If there
are "blue" and "orange" and possibly other GSM towers in the area, then the
64K sim might help. If there is only ONE GSM provider in the area, it won't
matter what sim is in your phone, as there is nothing to switch to when the
signal gets weak. -Dave

You could ask your wife and daughter to swap phones for a while to see if
it's the phone. Just remove sim cards from the phones and swap them. This
should be an easy test.



"Bob Maples" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> My wife has a Motorola V180 with Cingular as her service provider and
> has a terrible time with *lots* of dropped calls. The Cingular store rep
> talked her out of trading it by saying he would re-program it ... and now
> the 30 day trade in period has lapsed, and now he says he cannot trade her
> for a new (better) phone as his hands are tied. I am seeing the posts
> regarding the 64K Sim cards enabling the phones to access the available
> towers more efficiently and am wondering first, if a 64K Sim would work in
> the V180 and second, if this might (possibly would/could) help my wife's
> dropped call problem. The dropped calls happen (naturally) more often in a
> rural area, but are in no way limited to rural areas. My daughter has a
> Nokia and doesn't seem to experience the same problem, so I don't think
> location has that much to do with the problem. I have looked all over the
> web for review sites and almost everywhere I look, the reviews of the
> Motorola V180 are positive.
>
> Would the upgraded Sim card help? Or did my Wife get one of the few Lemon
> V180 phones?
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> RCM
>

In article <[email protected]>,
Tropical Haven <[email protected]> wrote:

> The upgraded SIM will only help if you are in an area where ATTWS signal
> is stronger than Cingular legacy signal, and it will allow you to use
> ATTWS as your primary home system. However, if you go this route, and
> you find yourself in an area where Cingular legacy is stronger, you will
> experience the weakened ATTWS signal.

What happened to the quick integration Navas promised us.

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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 11 Mar
2005 22:08:19 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> Tropical Haven <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The upgraded SIM will only help if you are in an area where ATTWS signal
>> is stronger than Cingular legacy signal, and it will allow you to use
>> ATTWS as your primary home system. However, if you go this route, and
>> you find yourself in an area where Cingular legacy is stronger, you will
>> experience the weakened ATTWS signal.
>
>What happened to the quick integration Navas promised us.

It's happening. You are one of the few that seems not to have noticed.

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John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>

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