TDMA coverage getting WORSE??

(Pete Cresswell) wrote:

> Per Jer:
>
>>Unless you're on a break, allocating your time during a work day for
>>personal calls *is* tying up company resources for personal use,
>
>
> Maybe back in the days when people mostly worked 40 hours a week, and got paid
> for overtime; but in today's context of people having to work 50-55 hours a week
> for forty hours pay in order to keep their jobs - can anybody really afford to
> care?


You must work for Wal-Mart. You have my sympathy.

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(Pete Cresswell) wrote:
> Per Jer:
>
>>Unless you're on a break, allocating your time during a work day for
>>personal calls *is* tying up company resources for personal use,
>
>
> Maybe back in the days when people mostly worked 40 hours a week, and got paid
> for overtime; but in today's context of people having to work 50-55 hours a week
> for forty hours pay in order to keep their jobs - can anybody really afford to
> care?

Yeah, and that lovely new thing where some jobs are now exempt from
overtime pay "to stimulate" the economy...

Jer wrote:
> (Pete Cresswell) wrote:
>
>> Per Jer:
>>
>>> Unless you're on a break, allocating your time during a work day for
>>> personal calls *is* tying up company resources for personal use,
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe back in the days when people mostly worked 40 hours a week, and
>> got paid
>> for overtime; but in today's context of people having to work 50-55
>> hours a week
>> for forty hours pay in order to keep their jobs - can anybody really
>> afford to
>> care?
>
>
>
> You must work for Wal-Mart. You have my sympathy.

Or K-Mart, or Target, or Sears, or McDonald's, or any other corporation.

So, you have a job where they will let you work for free to them on
your own time, that is your problem. That you try to even it out in
your mind by cheating your company by doing personal business when you
are being paid to work, is also your problem. Which your company may
quite specifically point out to some day. The point was that when you
are on your break or eating lunch, you do not have to be at your desk,
so your wireless signal does not have to reach it, for you to make
personal calls on your own time.
The blanket statement is that gsm coverage where it matters to the
carrier is in most cases as good or better than tdma coverage. Again
the carriers do not care about indoor coverage.

> The blanket statement is that gsm coverage where it matters to the
> carrier is in most cases as good or better than tdma coverage. Again
> the carriers do not care about indoor coverage.

It's not that they don't care about it, it's that they don't guarantee
it. There is a difference. Doctors care about saving your life if the
opportunity arises, but they don't guarantee it, either.

TH

"Tropical Haven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> (Pete Cresswell) wrote:
>> Per Jer:
>>
>>>Unless you're on a break, allocating your time during a work day for
>>>personal calls *is* tying up company resources for personal use,
>>
>>
>> Maybe back in the days when people mostly worked 40 hours a week, and got
>> paid
>> for overtime; but in today's context of people having to work 50-55 hours
>> a week
>> for forty hours pay in order to keep their jobs - can anybody really
>> afford to
>> care?
>
> Yeah, and that lovely new thing where some jobs are now exempt from
> overtime pay "to stimulate" the economy...


To answer the original question, TDMA has gotten much worse in Hazen, AR.
Cingular has a 360' tower within sight of my home. To get a TDMA signal you
have to go outside and try to find a place to talk. That's why I switched to
GSM, I can talk from anywhere in my home, I have a radio shop out back, a
steel building and can use my phone there.

Before the "change" I could use my TDMA phone in these same places.

bamp

bamp wrote:

> "Tropical Haven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>>(Pete Cresswell) wrote:
>>
>>>Per Jer:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Unless you're on a break, allocating your time during a work day for
>>>>personal calls *is* tying up company resources for personal use,
>>>
>>>
>>>Maybe back in the days when people mostly worked 40 hours a week, and got
>>>paid
>>>for overtime; but in today's context of people having to work 50-55 hours
>>>a week
>>>for forty hours pay in order to keep their jobs - can anybody really
>>>afford to
>>>care?
>>
>>Yeah, and that lovely new thing where some jobs are now exempt from
>>overtime pay "to stimulate" the economy...
>
>
>
> To answer the original question, TDMA has gotten much worse in Hazen, AR.
> Cingular has a 360' tower within sight of my home. To get a TDMA signal you
> have to go outside and try to find a place to talk. That's why I switched to
> GSM, I can talk from anywhere in my home, I have a radio shop out back, a
> steel building and can use my phone there.
>
> Before the "change" I could use my TDMA phone in these same places.
>
> bamp
>
>


Based on the limited information from your comment, I'd guess that TDMA
is no longer offered from that tower. If that seems odd, one needs to
understand that TDMA (and AMPS for that matter) aren't offered from each
and every tower site.

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Per Jer:
>You must work for Wal-Mart. You have my sympathy.

Nope. IT department of a major electric company until 10 years ago. Now I'm
a so-called independent contractor.
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Per (Pete Cresswell):
>IT department of a major electric company until 10 years ago. Now I'm
>a so-called independent contractor.

And, I should add, my observation about the uncompensated hours is based on the
many regular employees I've worked with at a couple of major financial
institutions over the past 10 years, NOT on my own experience.

I get paid for every minute I work. No work, no pay. Extra work, extra
pay.... And that's the way it should be. I feel sorry for the others.
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Well, for that matter they do not guarantee outdoor coverage either.
However, if you complain about an outdoor location within their coverage
area, they will look at filling it. But, if you complain about an
indoor location, they will say sorry building penetration is beyond our
control.

> You must work for Wal-Mart. You have my sympathy.

In no way was it indicated whether the OP was salaried or hourly. Many
salaried positions allow certain personal interruptions during the day
as long as the necessary work is completed.

TH

Jerome Zelinske wrote:
> Well, for that matter they do not guarantee outdoor coverage either.
> However, if you complain about an outdoor location within their coverage
> area, they will look at filling it. But, if you complain about an
> indoor location, they will say sorry building penetration is beyond our
> control.

But, it's true about building penetration. There are certain building
materials that are known to allow better penetration of signals.
However, until Cingular gets the final say in what materials and designs
buildings may have, it's not up to them to guarantee anything about
buildings.

TH

Per Tropical Haven:
>In no way was it indicated whether the OP was salaried or hourly.

I'm the OP and I'm hourly - aggressively so. I keep a minute-by-minute journal
of my actvities. Any non-productive activity that exceeds 8 minutes goes down
as a 15-minute block of non-billable time.
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:27:58 -0500, "Turbocane"
<[email protected]> spewed:
>> I've got an old Ericsson T19LX (actually a couple for family members too)
>> and I could swear the reception is getting worse on all of them.
>> Are the shutting down TDMA towers or something now that Cingular has
>> bought AT&T and doesn't use it?
>
>Yep, it happened to us over a year ago. They are switching to GSM it isn't
>just the AT & T thing. We always had our phone with the same service and
>started in 1999. It got worse and worse and we were reassured it was going
>to get better. Our phones stopped working at our house.
>
>It is a long story and it was a long battle. We paid lots of bucks to
>Cingular for over a year for their service. We complained to the BBB.
>One of the CS reps in Arkansas told us the FCC wouldn't let them use the
>towers anymore. This was a lie.
>
>We eventually ported to Verizon as each phone went out of contract. And
>after communication with someone in Altlanta they bought back a GSM phone
>that never worked in our house that we had to bite the bullet on when we
>ported our last phone.
>
>A friend of mine who lives 500 miles away is now going through the same
>thing that we did. Our problems started over 2 years ago.
>
>
Well I'm glad to see it's not my imagination, or only my are.
It seem so totally pointless.
They've already GOT and PAID for the towers. How much can the damn power
be. It doesn't even use the same frequency AFAIK, so you're right, that
was BS.

Of course, it could be to force everybody to buy new phones or some other
greedmongering plot.
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:58:01 GMT, "JohnF" <[email protected]> spewed:
>If at some time TDMA actually does get worse and doesn't work "anywhere"
>I'll re-evaluate Cingular's GSM with other carriers and see which company
>fits my needs. But to answer the original posters question, TDMA has not
>gotten worse in my area and still has better coverage than GSM. I currently
>have no reason to switch and I'm hoping by the time I'm forced to switch
>they'll have gotten the GSM coverage solved and it'll be a non-issue. I
>think it's a bit early to be worrying about it though.
>

I think it's obviously going to depend on your area.
From all the posts, I think it's safe to say it IS definitely getting
worse overall.
I think, there's always going to be some areas where TDMA is better than
GSM till the shut it down completely.

I think in your case, soon as you find a deal on a phone you like better
than your current one, grab it.
You could get caught like the other poster where there's suddenly no
coverage at all with no warning.
The more mergers and "megacorp" things get with lower competition, the
less they're going to care about telling us anything.
I'm not surprised they didn't tell him.
I think with enough *****ing, demanding to "talk to the supervisor", etc.
he could get out of the contract or get a free GSM phone at the very
least. Probably too late by now though.
BTW, check your bills for any agreements like that you get out of them.
I've more than once had Cingular reps tell me they'd fix something, then
it still shows up on the bill.

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