can I sell my phone number?

I replied the way I did because the OP just did not want to take NO for an
answer. Every post that said he could not sell the number he would come
back saying BLAH BLAH BLAH...I was trying to make a point is saying that my
post was simple enough that he should be able to understand it, but his
desperation prevented him from doing so. My feeling on the matter is that
if the OP didn't like the answer, which was a valid answer, he should have
jus accepted it and let it go. He kept padding the thread with "what if"
and "if I did this" and so on so forth, but would not accept the fact that
the number was not his to sell.

Bobby

"Frankster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> That quote wasn't his whole message. Read the original again:
>
> Yep, it's still there. "Surely this is simple enough for even you to
> understand."
>
> You know, just because someone types a few helpful sentences doesn't give
> them the right to then insult the OP. Period.
>
> I suppose folks like yourself believe you have helped so many people that
> you have a ton of ass-hole credits stored up to be used whenever you like.
> Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
>
> -Frank
>
>



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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:03:18 -0700, homer simpson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Cellular phone number portability makes me, in a sense, the effective owner
>of my phone number. By accident, it just so happened that my number *****s
>something that could be considered very desirable by a whole lot of
>companies (I won't say what it *****s for reasons of privacy). If I had to
>guess, I'd say there are companies that would pay thousands for it.
>
>Is it possible for me to actually sell my phone number, and if so, how can I
>go about doing it?

Ok,since by now you know you can't sell the number, and every number
is unique and can not be duplicated, plus you are the one with the
number; how about you tell us what it *****s?

SloPe

Slope wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:03:18 -0700, homer simpson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Cellular phone number portability makes me, in a sense,
>> the effective owner of my phone number. By accident, it
>> just so happened that my number *****s something that
>> could be considered very desirable by a whole lot of
>> companies (I won't say what it *****s for reasons of
>> privacy). If I had to guess, I'd say there are companies
>> that would pay thousands for it.
>>
>> Is it possible for me to actually sell my phone number,
>> and if so, how can I go about doing it?
>
> Ok,since by now you know you can't sell the number, and
> every number is unique and can not be duplicated, plus
> you are the one with the number; how about you tell us
> what it *****s?

uhhh... because he is worried about his privacy
not his number's privacy?

-Quick

yeah. sorry. my bad. 3 things start going when you get old but i can't
remember what they are.

"Notan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Chris wrote:
> >
> > Don't you mean 8675309 ???
>
> I was thinking the same thing, but couldn't remember the number.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Notan

Frankster wrote:

> I suppose folks like yourself believe you have helped so many people that
> you have a ton of ass-hole credits stored up to be used whenever you like.

I must, since apparently you seem to think you have enough
self-righteousness credits to waste bandwidth and critique other
people's posting style.




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"homer simpson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Who does it belong to? My service provider? What if I port it to another
> service provider? If the number is the property of the original service
> provider, how come I can easily deprive them of their property without
> their concent?

It is their concern. You can change it because the GOVERNMENT meddeled in
private business. The original owner had to pay for that number. They are
purchased in blocks. As with land lines, the agreement that you have with
the carrier states clearly that the number does NOT belong to you! Read the
first few pages of your phone directory sometime. Among other things it (and
your cellular agreement) clearly states that the number doesn't belong to
you. And it also states that the number can be changed at the will of the
carrier.

>
> Isn't the situation similar to Internet domain names? They definitely get
> bought and sold.

Not at all! A domain name is "dreamed up" by the person/company/people who
then subscribe to it. Once the subsctiprion is paid for and all renewalls
are done in a timely manner it is that persons.

Buying and selling of domain names has a proceedure set up for just that.
The old technical person and old "owner" can assign a new owner and
technical person. Thus if you had a domain name that I wanted, we could
negotiate a price and complete the transaction by changing the two above
things.

>> Your cellular phone number does *NOT* belong to you any more than your
>> landline phone number belongs to you. Just because the number can now be
>> used with most cellular providers does not make it yours.

"homer simpson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Notan wrote:
>
>> homer simpson wrote:
>>>
>>> Who does it belong to?
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>
>> The FCC?
>
> I don't have the answers, that's why I'm asking questions. But if it
> belongs
> to the FCC, I can probably just sign a contract with someone saying that
> other party will use my number from now on (Effectively selling it).

Actually, as I think about it there is a form that the carriers all have
that allows for changing of "Financial Responsibility". I have moved my
number from my personal account to a company account and back again several
times over the years!

I suppose that you could call this selling. Find out who wants the number,
have them agree to the change of financial responsibility (after collecting
your price) and it is then theirs to use or port or whatever they then want
to do with it.

"Quick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1113453180.55788@sj-nntpcache-3...

> Brings up another good question. Seems that you can keep
> your number as long as you maintain service but is this just
> the way it's done or is your number actually part of your
> service contract?

I think that if you read your service contract it says that the number
belongs to the carrier and that they can change it at their will.

I haven't read a contract since the number portability has taken place but
mine (dated 1986) definatly states that they own the number and can change
it at any time.

>> Brings up another good question. Seems that you can keep
>> your number as long as you maintain service but is this just
>> the way it's done or is your number actually part of your
>> service contract?
>
>I think that if you read your service contract it says that the number
>belongs to the carrier and that they can change it at their will.

If they DON'T have that in there, think about what happens during
area code splits.

>I haven't read a contract since the number portability has taken place but
>mine (dated 1986) definatly states that they own the number and can change
>it at any time.

And the number HAS been changed lots of times for a lot of people.
Area code splits are the best example I can think of affecting a
lot of people, but I think on occasion there have been "prefix
splits" in small areas where they needed to divide lines to an
overloaded switch to have some of them go to a different one (and
some of the older switches have to do the whole prefix or none of
it).

Some areas also have number changes over which you have some control.
"If you want to order touch-tone, you'll have to change your number."
(certain prefixes in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, although it's
probably not limited to there). Want to keep your number? Don't
order anything new.

Gordon L. Burditt

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:52:15 -0700, "Quick"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Slope wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:03:18 -0700, homer simpson
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Cellular phone number portability makes me, in a sense,
>>> the effective owner of my phone number. By accident, it
>>> just so happened that my number *****s something that
>>> could be considered very desirable by a whole lot of
>>> companies (I won't say what it *****s for reasons of
>>> privacy). If I had to guess, I'd say there are companies
>>> that would pay thousands for it.
>>>
>>> Is it possible for me to actually sell my phone number,
>>> and if so, how can I go about doing it?
>>
>> Ok,since by now you know you can't sell the number, and
>> every number is unique and can not be duplicated, plus
>> you are the one with the number; how about you tell us
>> what it *****s?
>
>uhhh... because he is worried about his privacy
>not his number's privacy?
>
>-Quick
>
Yeah, well...I guess that is a good enough reason not to say. I'm
still curious though.

SloPe

Arrrrrgh!! This thread will still be going at Christmas. :-(

"Slope" <slope7****@excite.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:52:15 -0700, "Quick"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Slope wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:03:18 -0700, homer simpson
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cellular phone number portability makes me, in a sense,
>>>> the effective owner of my phone number. By accident, it
>>>> just so happened that my number *****s something that
>>>> could be considered very desirable by a whole lot of
>>>> companies (I won't say what it *****s for reasons of
>>>> privacy). If I had to guess, I'd say there are companies
>>>> that would pay thousands for it.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible for me to actually sell my phone number,
>>>> and if so, how can I go about doing it?
>>>
>>> Ok,since by now you know you can't sell the number, and
>>> every number is unique and can not be duplicated, plus
>>> you are the one with the number; how about you tell us
>>> what it *****s?
>>
>>uhhh... because he is worried about his privacy
>>not his number's privacy?
>>
>>-Quick
>>
> Yeah, well...I guess that is a good enough reason not to say. I'm
> still curious though.
>
> SloPe

sure you can. go to the phone co. and get an assignment of number form.
it is done all of the time with bulk sale transfers..(business sales)
the hawk

Besides being insulting you're also wrong. But apparently not understanding
things is also your speciality.

"NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Let's see if I can make it simple for you...You are paying for a service.
> Currently, that service is associated with a number...your number. Should
> you decide to cancel the service and not port the number, it goes back
into
> the pool, and will eventually given to someone else. You do *NOT* own the
> service. you do *NOT* own the number. You are paying for the privilege
of
> using the service. You are paying to use a certain number while you are
> paying for that service. Surely this is simple enough for even you to
> understand.

I did not see where you contributed any new information to this thread, and
you had no answers for his questions.

James

"NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I replied the way I did because the OP just did not want to take NO for an
> answer. Every post that said he could not sell the number he would come
> back saying BLAH BLAH BLAH...I was trying to make a point is saying that
my
> post was simple enough that he should be able to understand it, but his
> desperation prevented him from doing so. My feeling on the matter is that
> if the OP didn't like the answer, which was a valid answer, he should have
> jus accepted it and let it go. He kept padding the thread with "what if"
> and "if I did this" and so on so forth, but would not accept the fact that
> the number was not his to sell.
>
> Bobby
>
> "Frankster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >> That quote wasn't his whole message. Read the original again:
> >
> > Yep, it's still there. "Surely this is simple enough for even you to
> > understand."
> >
> > You know, just because someone types a few helpful sentences doesn't
give
> > them the right to then insult the OP. Period.
> >
> > I suppose folks like yourself believe you have helped so many people
that
> > you have a ton of ass-hole credits stored up to be used whenever you
like.
> > Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
> >
> > -Frank
> >
> >
>
>
>
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> Notan wrote:
>
> > homer simpson wrote:
> >>
> >> Who does it belong to?
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >
> > The FCC?
>
> I don't have the answers, that's why I'm asking questions. But if it belongs
> to the FCC, I can probably just sign a contract with someone saying that
> other party will use my number from now on (Effectively selling it).
>


I'm FAR from a lawyer. But I know that Sprint will simply allow a
"transfer of liability" from one person to another. If the other person
pays you to carry that out, I'm unaware of any rule that would disallow
it.

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