cellular wide area data coverage

I've seen and heard a lot of the latest Verizon commercials
for their WAN service and their PCMCIA data cards.

I was wondering about all the carriers,
and what is being offered by which carriers,
along with what type of technology is used - phone vs PC card -

Last time I tried data, it was with a cell phone, a data cable
and the phone appeared as a 14.4kbs modem -

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Phil Schuman wrote:
> I've seen and heard a lot of the latest Verizon commercials
> for their WAN service and their PCMCIA data cards.
>
> I was wondering about all the carriers,
> and what is being offered by which carriers,
> along with what type of technology is used - phone vs PC card -

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In most if not all cases, the wireless carriers are pushing the use of a
PCMCIA card for wireless data access, and are actively discouraging the
use of data cables and "tethered" access using a handset.
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I guess I was looking for info on the speeds & feeds of the offerings
along with what can be layered over which existing
TDMA, CDMA, CDMA2000, or GSM network
using old CDPD, 1xRTT, or the newer EV-DO...

"Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I guess I was looking for info on the speeds & feeds of the offerings
>along with what can be layered over which existing
>TDMA, CDMA, CDMA2000, or GSM network
>using old CDPD, 1xRTT, or the newer EV-DO...

As far as I can tell, no one offers a high speed unrestricted flat rate
data plan for laptops - VZW, Cingular, T-Mobile, and SprintPCS don't,
anyway. Is there a wireless company that offers a DSL replacement
service at a reasonable price?

(VZW and Cingular have usage restrictions; T-Mobile isn't high speed,
and SprintPCS doesn't have a flat rate. I would consider the VZW and
Cingular plans reasonable at $80/month if they didn't have a bunch of
usage restrictions.)





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Check out this article. It has a lot of good information.

http://www.nwc.com/story/singlePageF...cleID=49400836

Spint has an $80 unlimited use plan for their laptop card. I have one.

"Jack Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I guess I was looking for info on the speeds & feeds of the offerings
>>along with what can be layered over which existing
>>TDMA, CDMA, CDMA2000, or GSM network
>>using old CDPD, 1xRTT, or the newer EV-DO...
>
> As far as I can tell, no one offers a high speed unrestricted flat rate
> data plan for laptops - VZW, Cingular, T-Mobile, and SprintPCS don't,
> anyway. Is there a wireless company that offers a DSL replacement
> service at a reasonable price?
>
> (VZW and Cingular have usage restrictions; T-Mobile isn't high speed,
> and SprintPCS doesn't have a flat rate. I would consider the VZW and
> Cingular plans reasonable at $80/month if they didn't have a bunch of
> usage restrictions.)
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> Sacramento, California
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"Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Spint has an $80 unlimited use plan for their laptop card. I have one.

Interesting. Yesterday I found pricing for "PCS Vision for PCS
Connection Cards - Laptop & PDA", which costs $80 for 300 MB. But on
the business pages tonight, I found the plan you describe.

Why the difference, I wonder... And what are the restrictions on those
plans? The link to explanatory text wasn't obvious.




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>"Jack Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I guess I was looking for info on the speeds & feeds of the offerings
>>>along with what can be layered over which existing
>>>TDMA, CDMA, CDMA2000, or GSM network
>>>using old CDPD, 1xRTT, or the newer EV-DO...
>>
>> As far as I can tell, no one offers a high speed unrestricted flat rate
>> data plan for laptops - VZW, Cingular, T-Mobile, and SprintPCS don't,
>> anyway. Is there a wireless company that offers a DSL replacement
>> service at a reasonable price?
>>
>> (VZW and Cingular have usage restrictions; T-Mobile isn't high speed,
>> and SprintPCS doesn't have a flat rate. I would consider the VZW and
>> Cingular plans reasonable at $80/month if they didn't have a bunch of
>> usage restrictions.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jack Hamilton
>> Sacramento, California
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>> <> François VI, duc de La Rochefoucauld
>


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There are no restrictions on the unlimited plan. There is only one problem:
If you do not have a business and a tax ID number, Sprint can use your SS
number and you can get a business account, however, they require a $250
deposit for 10 months. After 10 months, they will return your $250. I have
A++++++ credit and they still required the deposit because I am not a
business. Instead of giving them the deposit, I gave them the tax id number
of the company that I work for and was immediately approved for 60 cards.

-mij

"Jack Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Spint has an $80 unlimited use plan for their laptop card. I have one.
>
> Interesting. Yesterday I found pricing for "PCS Vision for PCS
> Connection Cards - Laptop & PDA", which costs $80 for 300 MB. But on
> the business pages tonight, I found the plan you describe.
>
> Why the difference, I wonder... And what are the restrictions on those
> plans? The link to explanatory text wasn't obvious.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>"Jack Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> "Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I guess I was looking for info on the speeds & feeds of the offerings
>>>>along with what can be layered over which existing
>>>>TDMA, CDMA, CDMA2000, or GSM network
>>>>using old CDPD, 1xRTT, or the newer EV-DO...
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell, no one offers a high speed unrestricted flat rate
>>> data plan for laptops - VZW, Cingular, T-Mobile, and SprintPCS don't,
>>> anyway. Is there a wireless company that offers a DSL replacement
>>> service at a reasonable price?
>>>
>>> (VZW and Cingular have usage restrictions; T-Mobile isn't high speed,
>>> and SprintPCS doesn't have a flat rate. I would consider the VZW and
>>> Cingular plans reasonable at $80/month if they didn't have a bunch of
>>> usage restrictions.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jack Hamilton
>>> Sacramento, California
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>>> <> François VI, duc de La Rochefoucauld
>>
>
>
> --
> Jack Hamilton
> Sacramento, California
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On Thu, 26 May 2005 18:53:17 -0700, Jack Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:

>(VZW and Cingular have usage restrictions; T-Mobile isn't high speed,
>and SprintPCS doesn't have a flat rate. I would consider the VZW and
>Cingular plans reasonable at $80/month if they didn't have a bunch of
>usage restrictions.)

What's the VZW usage restriction? I had the unlimited plan for over
a year as my sole ISP and they had no limits on MB or time. If it were
about $30 cheaper, I'd still be using it.
Emanuel

Jack Hamilton wrote:

> Interesting. Yesterday I found pricing for "PCS Vision for PCS
> Connection Cards - Laptop & PDA", which costs $80 for 300 MB. But on
> the business pages tonight, I found the plan you describe.
>
> Why the difference, I wonder... And what are the restrictions on those
> plans? The link to explanatory text wasn't obvious.

The $80 unlimited plan has always been available only to business
accounts. I'm not sure why. I *thought* the flat-rate unlimited $80 was
a promotional package... but I could be wrong.


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E Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 26 May 2005 18:53:17 -0700, Jack Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>(VZW and Cingular have usage restrictions; T-Mobile isn't high speed,
>>and SprintPCS doesn't have a flat rate. I would consider the VZW and
>>Cingular plans reasonable at $80/month if they didn't have a bunch of
>>usage restrictions.)
>
> What's the VZW usage restriction? I had the unlimited plan for over
>a year as my sole ISP and they had no limits on MB or time. If it were
>about $30 cheaper, I'd still be using it.
> Emanuel

"Unlimited NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess cannot be used with server
devices or with host computer applications. Examples of such prohibited
uses include, without limitation, web camera posts or broadcasts,
continuous jpeg file transfers, automatic data feeds, telemetry
applications, automated functions or any other machine-to-machine
applications. Such data sessions cannot be used as substitute for
private lines or frame relay connections."

In other words, anything that actually uses all that bandwidth is
forbidden. Also, what's the definition of "private line"? Isn't a home
DSL line a private line?

"We reserve right to deny or terminate service, without notice, to
anyone who uses NationalAccess in any manner prohibited above or whose
usage adversely impacts our network or service levels."

Seems reasonable, but how can a user know what that usage level is? It
sounds like an arbitrary judgment without possibility of appeal.

<http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobileoptions/nationalaccess/importantInfo.jsp>



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Jack Hamilton wrote:
> "Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote:

> As far as I can tell, no one offers a high speed unrestricted flat rate
> data plan for laptops - VZW, Cingular, T-Mobile, and SprintPCS don't,
> anyway. Is there a wireless company that offers a DSL replacement
> service at a reasonable price?
>
> (VZW and Cingular have usage restrictions; T-Mobile isn't high speed,
> and SprintPCS doesn't have a flat rate.

Actually Sprint does, IF you set up a business acount. The cost is $80
a month, and you have to use a data card (PCMCIA).

http://www.sprint.com/business/produ...VisionPlan.jsp



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Mij Adyaw wrote:
> There are no restrictions on the unlimited plan. There is only one problem:
> If you do not have a business and a tax ID number, Sprint can use your SS
> number and you can get a business account, however, they require a $250
> deposit for 10 months. After 10 months, they will return your $250. I have
> A++++++ credit and they still required the deposit because I am not a
> business.

Actually, there might be a way around this, for those people who qualify
for volume dicount pricing. If you're an employee of a business that
has a volume discount program with Sprint (many large corporations,
colleges, and state and local governments do, as well as USAA members),
you can call up Sprint and ask for a volume discount. They'll look it
up and transfer you to the business accounts department, who must then
re-set your account as a business acount and synchronize it with the
account that your place of employment has (i.e. change the billing date
to match). I did this, and was not asked for a deposit. I have an A2
credit rating with Srint (can have up to 10 lines, no ASL), which is
apparently very rare, so this may be why it was easy for me, but I doubt it.



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"Jack Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I guess I was looking for info on the speeds & feeds of the offerings
> >along with what can be layered over which existing
> >TDMA, CDMA, CDMA2000, or GSM network
> >using old CDPD, 1xRTT, or the newer EV-DO...
>
> As far as I can tell, no one offers a high speed unrestricted flat rate
> data plan for laptops - VZW, Cingular, T-Mobile, and SprintPCS don't,
> anyway. Is there a wireless company that offers a DSL replacement
> service at a reasonable price?
>
> (VZW and Cingular have usage restrictions; T-Mobile isn't high speed,
> and SprintPCS doesn't have a flat rate. I would consider the VZW and
> Cingular plans reasonable at $80/month if they didn't have a bunch of
> usage restrictions.)

Jack....I don't know where you got the info that there are restrictions on
VZW's data rate.
I have a PC-5220 Card with 1X-EVDO service in the Los Angeles area. I pay
the $79.95 rate with NO RESTRICTIONS at all.
I use it all the time, stay connected for hours,sometimes days. I download
tons of info, watch a video server at my home, VPN into a network.
I have NEVER been dinged for any other charges for anything, I have used it
all over california, nevada and hawaii....
Restrictions.....I dont think so.

"Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>"Jack Hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Phil Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >I guess I was looking for info on the speeds & feeds of the offerings
>> >along with what can be layered over which existing
>> >TDMA, CDMA, CDMA2000, or GSM network
>> >using old CDPD, 1xRTT, or the newer EV-DO...
>>
>> As far as I can tell, no one offers a high speed unrestricted flat rate
>> data plan for laptops - VZW, Cingular, T-Mobile, and SprintPCS don't,
>> anyway. Is there a wireless company that offers a DSL replacement
>> service at a reasonable price?
>>
>> (VZW and Cingular have usage restrictions; T-Mobile isn't high speed,
>> and SprintPCS doesn't have a flat rate. I would consider the VZW and
>> Cingular plans reasonable at $80/month if they didn't have a bunch of
>> usage restrictions.)
>
>Jack....I don't know where you got the info that there are restrictions on
>VZW's data rate.

Not on the data rate, but on your usage. See <
<http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobileoptions/nationalaccess/importantInfo.jsp>.

>I have a PC-5220 Card with 1X-EVDO service in the Los Angeles area. I pay
>the $79.95 rate with NO RESTRICTIONS at all.
>I use it all the time, stay connected for hours,sometimes days. I download
>tons of info, watch a video server at my home, VPN into a network.
>I have NEVER been dinged for any other charges for anything, I have used it
>all over california, nevada and hawaii....
>Restrictions.....I dont think so.

Even if they don't enforce their policies, I'd prefer a service where
the policies aren't even there.



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