Wrong time

I've noticed that my girlfriend's Cingular phone is wrong by about 3
minutes. I know 2 others with Cing phones, one of which is accurate
time and the other ALSO OFF by 3 minutes. Is cingular broadcasting 2
different times for their 2 networks? Can they FIX THIS?? 3 minutes
is kind of a long time when you're using your phone as a watch.

-BT

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prepared to deny EVERYTHING!
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I've noticed that my girlfriend's Cingular phone is wrong by about 3
> minutes. I know 2 others with Cing phones, one of which is accurate
> time and the other ALSO OFF by 3 minutes. Is cingular broadcasting 2
> different times for their 2 networks? Can they FIX THIS?? 3 minutes
> is kind of a long time when you're using your phone as a watch.
>
> -BT
>

We've tried resetting the phone. Her phone is ALWAYS three minutes off
from actual time (judged by my Verizon phone, which has always been
accurate to the atomic clock within seconds). I'd be very surprised if
Cingular wasn't doing this intentionally (setting orange network and
blue network several minutes off each other for some reason)..

Oh, and I can't get google posting to correctly quote your last post..
sorry..

[email protected] wrote:
> We've tried resetting the phone. Her phone is ALWAYS three minutes off
> from actual time (judged by my Verizon phone, which has always been
> accurate to the atomic clock within seconds). I'd be very surprised if
> Cingular wasn't doing this intentionally (setting orange network and
> blue network several minutes off each other for some reason)..
>
> Oh, and I can't get google posting to correctly quote your last post..
> sorry..
>


Yeah, that's it, a biggo orange conspiracy. So, let me see if I've got
this down... you're pissed because you've got two clocks that indicate
time that's three minutes apart and your sky is crumbling?

A man with one watch knows the time, and man with two watches is never sure.

Tip: Get a life.

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jer
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Jer wrote:

> you're pissed because you've got two clocks that indicate
> time that's three minutes apart and your sky is crumbling?

Not crumbling, and it doesn't anger me really - just seems kind of odd
that half the folks I know on Cingular have accurate time and the
others have 3 minutes behind, almost exactly. Am I the only one who
uses their cell as their primary time-keeping when out and about?

The CDMA providers (Verizon,Sprint) require a GPS receiver at the base
station for synchronization, so they naturally have the correct time
for the phones. GSM does not require GPS sync, but I would not expect
the time to be off by that much provided the phone is set to update to
network time.

Were you able to verify both phones were set to auto update and then
power cycled them next to each other. That way you could verify that
they are on the same base station (assuming there is not dual band
coverage). If you still saw the discrepency, then I would think it's a
phone issue.

We have the same issue with DST on the Nokia 3595, it needs a reboot to
get the system time.

[email protected] wrote:
> The CDMA providers (Verizon,Sprint) require a GPS receiver at the base
> station for synchronization, so they naturally have the correct time
> for the phones. GSM does not require GPS sync, but I would not expect
> the time to be off by that much provided the phone is set to update to
> network time.
>
> Were you able to verify both phones were set to auto update and then
> power cycled them next to each other. That way you could verify that
> they are on the same base station (assuming there is not dual band
> coverage). If you still saw the discrepency, then I would think it's a
> phone issue.
>
> We have the same issue with DST on the Nokia 3595, it needs a reboot to
> get the system time.
>


I've been told that all GSM cell sites have GPS receivers for network
timing - but that doesn't necessarily mean they're also used for TOD. I
don't have a clue where the TOD data is sourced from, nor do I care -
but in the larger picture, three minutes is one cycle of a traffic
light, time enough to tie your shoes, fetch a beer during a TV
commercial break, feed the pet, write a rent check, etc. How does three
minutes of difference between two clocks even come up for discussion?

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jer
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Reply to message from Jer <[email protected]> (l

> ...comercial break, feed the pet, write a rent check, etc. How does
> three
minutes of difference between two clocks even come up for discussion?

3 minutes can make a huge difference when catching a bus.....:-)

Mark Daniel wrote:
> Reply to message from Jer <[email protected]> (l
>
> > ...comercial break, feed the pet, write a rent check, etc. How does
> > three
> minutes of difference between two clocks even come up for discussion?
>
> 3 minutes can make a huge difference when catching a bus.....:-)


Well, okay, I'll give ya that.

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jer
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"Mark Daniel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1119215472.f75a52cc61342cb16ce5c97586282429@teranews...
> Reply to message from Jer <[email protected]> (l
>
> > ...comercial break, feed the pet, write a rent check, etc. How
> > does
> > three
> minutes of difference between two clocks even come up for
> discussion?
>
> 3 minutes can make a huge difference when catching a bus.....:-)

If you know the time is off, you adjust your schedule accordingly.
If you checked one hundred watches at random, you might find one or
two in agreement. If the time interval is correct, you can still
measure elapsed time.

Some phones use the Caller ID to set the time. I found out that if
I manually set the time on my LG L1150, the automatic update is
turned off.


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Earl F. Parrish