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  1. #31
    Jerome Zelinske
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    Re: Blue and orange merge - does it apply to TDMA

    I have read your other postings and believe you are incorrect.


    John S. wrote:
    > "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    >>It could not use analog on PCS, because the FCC will not allow it.

    >
    >
    > You will eventually read my other postings and realize that you are
    > incorrect.
    >
    >




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  2. #32
    Russell
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    Re: Blue and orange merge - does it apply to TDMA


    "John S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:%[email protected]...
    >>
    >> "John S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>> What I said is that all of the AT&T system has been merged into the
    >>> Cingular system and it is now one.

    >>
    >> I'd be most interested in knowing the basis for this last statement.
    >> This is in no way to imply that it's incorrect, just asking how you
    >> "know" it.

    >
    > I am a telecommunications consultant and am heavily involved in the
    > merger, technically at the switch/BTS level.


    John,

    My direct interest in this is being a prepaid TDMA customer of one of the
    resellers on what was the AT&T blue network. Are you saying that blue TDMA
    and orange TDMA are merged in all markets? If yes, does this mean that
    prepaid customers have also access to what was the orange TDMA towers? Feel
    free to send me email - the "spam proofing" in my return address is fairly
    obvious.

    Russell





  3. #33
    prc2u
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    Re: How IS Verizon?

    I am sorry about the attitude at the corp store. I work for an
    authorized agent and would be fired if I acted like that. Cingular is
    migrating all ATT customers into cingular accounts even as we become
    one company. It is cheaper to run one computer system as well as all
    the different departments. Cingular corporate stores have strict
    rules of customer service but our small agents seem to care more about
    cutomers when secret shopped. Once again I am sorry.

    On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:29:01 -0400, "Ken V" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >My wife gets a 6% discount through her work with verizon so that helped. The
    >signal coverage is great and you can't beat the 2 Samsung a670 camera flip
    >phones for $49 total after rebate. I also saved by combining two separate
    >Cingular accounts into one family share Americas choice plan. I had to pay a
    >$20 per line activation on a 2 year plan.
    >
    >I would have renewed with Cingular, but the arrogance I was hit with in the
    >Cingular Store was unbelievable....the first thing the guy tells me is "Oh
    >your an AT&T customer....I say funny, my bill has been saying Cingular for
    >months....it went down hill from that point..and I left the store.
    >
    >I'm finding that tons of my friends also have Verizon, so calls between
    >Verizon users are FREE anytime which is great.
    >
    >-Ken
    >
    >
    >
    >"Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:01exe.66$vE5.0@trndny07...
    >>
    >> "Ken V" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:V-
    >>
    >> > Up until last week when I dumped Cingular for Verizon, my phone still
    >> > showed
    >> > AT&T Wireless on the gsm side, and AT&T on the TDMA.
    >> >

    >>
    >> I'm ready to switch out of Cingular, when my old ATTWS contract expires in
    >> three weeks.
    >>
    >> How do you like Verizon? What did they charge to set up an account?
    >>
    >>

    >





  4. #34
    Tropical Haven
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    Re: Blue and orange merge - does it apply to TDMA

    Can you provide a link to the FCC site that says AMPS is not allowed on 1900 mHz in
    the United States?

    TH

    Jerome Zelinske wrote:

    > It could not use analog on PCS, because the FCC will not allow it.
    >
    > Tropical Haven wrote:
    > > Well, technically, I don't see why a carrier couldn't use AMPS on 1900 mHz if it
    > > was willing to invest enough money into the development. But from an economical
    > > standpoint, it wouldn't make any sense. It would be like Compaq coming out with
    > > a new home PC, running on vacuum tubes. Possible, but not plausible.
    > >
    > > TH
    > >
    > >
    > >> cingular would definitely want to launch gsm on all of it's licensed
    > >>spectrum. But that does not mean that they want to or would launch tdma
    > >>on all of it's spectrum. It definitely does not mean that they have
    > >>launched analog on PCS. Only digital is allowed on PCS.
    > >>
    > >>John S. wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>"Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >>>news:[email protected]...
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>Hence my orginal question. If anyone of knows of specifics of orange and
    > >>>>blue TDMA merging (naturally, which are not company confidential), I'd
    > >>>>love to hear about them.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>I know that they merged all of the systems, AMPS, TDMA and GSM.
    > >>>
    > >>>In some areas where Cingular aquired the "other" frequency spectrum, they
    > >>>installed new dual band antennas on towers to consolidate sites into one
    > >>>"ground structure" where they had two sites on the same tower or close by
    > >>>towers.
    > >>>
    > >>>For instance in Southern LA, Cingular had the cellular frequencies and
    > >>>aquired the PCS frequencies in the deal. In Northern LA it was reversed.
    > >>>
    > >>>Cingular also has been changing out buildings at sites to get more floor
    > >>>space for the migration of the two systems to a common ground struture.
    > >>>
    > >>>

    > >
    > >





  5. #35
    Jeremy
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    Re: How IS Verizon?


    "prc2u" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >Cingular is migrating all ATT customers into cingular accounts even as we
    >become one company.


    You fail to address the fact that they will not honor our existing ATTWS
    packages. I get free inbound text messaging, free Mobile-to-Mobile, 7 PM
    n/w, 650 min per line on each of my 3 phones, all for $29.99/mo per line.

    Cingular keeps trying to get me to migrate, but the price is that I lose all
    the perks that I got from ATTWS for being a loyal customer for several
    years.

    I'd migrate tomorrow if I could get the terms I'm getting now. Since
    Cingular will not budge, my attituse is, essentially, "**** 'em!" When I've
    had enough, I plan to switch to Verizon, where I already have my local, DSL
    and VoIP service. I can probably get some kind of package discount from
    them.

    I just have a problem with Cingular's arm-twisting approach. The world will
    continue to turn if I and Cingular part company. Sure, it seems petty of
    me, but the only influence we have is to deny Cingular our money.





  6. #36
    Tropical Haven
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    Re: How IS Verizon?



    Jeremy wrote:

    > "prc2u" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    > >Cingular is migrating all ATT customers into cingular accounts even as we
    > >become one company.

    >
    > You fail to address the fact that they will not honor our existing ATTWS
    > packages. I get free inbound text messaging, free Mobile-to-Mobile, 7 PM
    > n/w, 650 min per line on each of my 3 phones, all for $29.99/mo per line.
    >
    > Cingular keeps trying to get me to migrate, but the price is that I lose all
    > the perks that I got from ATTWS for being a loyal customer for several
    > years.
    >
    > I'd migrate tomorrow if I could get the terms I'm getting now. Since
    > Cingular will not budge, my attituse is, essentially, "**** 'em!" When I've
    > had enough, I plan to switch to Verizon, where I already have my local, DSL
    > and VoIP service. I can probably get some kind of package discount from
    > them.
    >
    > I just have a problem with Cingular's arm-twisting approach. The world will
    > continue to turn if I and Cingular part company. Sure, it seems petty of
    > me, but the only influence we have is to deny Cingular our money.


    Do you have a TDMA plan or a GSM plan?

    TH




  7. #37
    Jeremy
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    Re: How IS Verizon?


    "Tropical Haven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    > Do you have a TDMA plan or a GSM plan?
    >


    TDMA. I should have converted to a GSM plan back when I was on ATTWS, but
    as I recall, my existing TDMA plan was a better deal. Last July, ATTWS
    offered to add some features, like more minutes, 7 PM N/W and free mobile to
    mobile, if I would agree to a one year contract (by that point, my original
    contract had completed its term and was now on month-to-month).

    I asked how long TDMA would be up and the rep said at least 5 more
    years--ten maybe. I didn't count on Cingular's refusal to treat
    long-standing customers any different than someone that just came in off the
    street.

    I am clearly biased against Cingular. I'd do better to go elsewhere. Less
    aggravation. And some degree of satisfaction in knowing that they failed to
    push me around. What jerks they are.





  8. #38
    Nicholas Carnevale
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    Re: Blue and orange merge - does it apply to TDMA

    Your best bet is to contact Cingular online and purchase a new GSM handset.
    Online you will get the best price and shipping is pretty fast. They will
    charge you an $18 activation fee, but you can get a free phone out of it
    usually.

    -Nick

    "Hybyd2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >I do realize TDMA is dying. Anyone know if any of this merging of the blue
    >and orange networks applies to TDMA? Any blue TDMA customers out there
    >with any merge experience? I'd love to hear about it ...
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Henry
    >






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