Disappointed with V551

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:16:04
-0400, Mangus Pyke <[email protected]> wrote:

>The 551 is kind of what I was considering to replace my V60 Color..
>
>Are these types of complaints about the 551 common?

No. The V551 is an excellent handset, arguably the best currently available
for Cingular.

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In <[email protected]> on Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:29:21 -0400, "Don
Udel \(ETC\)" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Agree with you on quality issues. For me however, the Moto menu was
>cumbersome. I also did not care for the way each number for a person was
>stored separately. The menu system did not work for me; I'm sure it works
>well for others.

Or the manual apparently, since it describes how to combine multiple numbers
into a single combined entry. ;-)

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"Don Udel (ETC)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I also had a Moto under Cingular. Hated the menu, short battery life, the
> having to reboot, low volume, etc. Moved the Nokia 6230 (BT, MP3, great
> battery life, etc).

How about that tiny and crappy display? I hated the display on 6230.


>
> Don
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >I am a former AT&T Wireless subscriber who migrated to Cingular. My
> > AT&T phone was a TDMA candybar Nokia. I upgraded to the Moto while
> > still under AT&T. It has an AT&T sim card. I am not very happy with the
> > Moto. I have a lot of trouble hearing callers. IMO, the overall volume
> > is just too low. I can't use a hex editing tool to tweak the factory
> > volume settings, because I am running Win98SE. Another odd thing is
> > that the V551 faceplate has developed some sort of stress cracks in
> > several places. I baby this phone, so I can't understand where the
> > cracks are coming from. I miss the quality(and battery life) of the
> > Nokia. Can anyone recommend a solid Nokia or other phone to use on the
> > Cingular network? I would like to have Bluetooth capability. Thanks,
> > Neal.
> >
>
>

In article <85bDe.4759$p%[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> >Agree with you on quality issues. For me however, the Moto menu was
> >cumbersome. I also did not care for the way each number for a person was
> >stored separately. The menu system did not work for me; I'm sure it works
> >well for others.
>
> Or the manual apparently, since it describes how to combine multiple numbers
> into a single combined entry. ;-)

Or maybe Navas doesn't understand that only phone-stored numbers can be
set up this way, and that SIM-stored numbers cannot.

Or maybe Navas is blind to the fact that most people prefer to store
their numbers in the SIM for portability.

Or maybe Navas is just an ignorant ass. ;-)

"Harry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:33:34 -0500, Jer <[email protected]> wrote:
:
: >I'm one of a dozen people I know that all have a V551 (two of us have
: >more than one), and we're all happy as pigs with new buckets of slop.
: >
: >Like thousands of others, we don't make a big deal about being this
: >happy with our Moto toys, but since someone mentioned it...
:
: ... and three more happy customers

.. . .and 2 more happy customers

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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:
: In <[email protected]> on Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:29:21 -0400,
"Don
: Udel \(ETC\)" <[email protected]> wrote:
:
: >Agree with you on quality issues. For me however, the Moto menu was
: >cumbersome. I also did not care for the way each number for a person was
: >stored separately. The menu system did not work for me; I'm sure it
works
: >well for others.
:
: Or the manual apparently, since it describes how to combine multiple
numbers
: into a single combined entry. ;-)

I have 2 v551's and both have multiple numbers for a single entries.

I have two and they are great. I have had Nokia in the past and they were
ok but the V551 is much better. I also had the Smartphone from Motorola
which I liked the features but the phone sucked for poor volume, poor
reception, and reboots. V551 is highly recommended .

Tom


"Mike Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "cougar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:38:50 GMT, "ABC" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> [email protected] wrote:
>> >>> I am a former AT&T Wireless subscriber who migrated to Cingular. My
>> >>> AT&T phone was a TDMA candybar Nokia. I upgraded to the Moto while
>> >>> still under AT&T. It has an AT&T sim card. I am not very happy with
> the
>> >>> Moto. I have a lot of trouble hearing callers. IMO, the overall
>> >>> volume
>> >>> is just too low. I can't use a hex editing tool to tweak the factory
>> >>> volume settings, because I am running Win98SE. Another odd thing is
>> >>> that the V551 faceplate has developed some sort of stress cracks in
>> >>> several places. I baby this phone, so I can't understand where the
>> >>> cracks are coming from. I miss the quality(and battery life) of the
>> >>> Nokia. Can anyone recommend a solid Nokia or other phone to use on
>> >>> the
>> >>> Cingular network? I would like to have Bluetooth capability. Thanks,
>> >>> Neal.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm one of a dozen people I know that all have a V551 (two of us have
> more
>> >> than one), and we're all happy as pigs with new buckets of slop.
>> >>
>> >> Like thousands of others, we don't make a big deal about being this
> happy
>> >> with our Moto toys, but since someone mentioned it...
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> jer
>> >> email reply - I am not a 'ten'
>> >
>> >chalk up two more happy customers
>> >
>>
>> Chalk up another one!
>>
> And one more (although I would prefer IR instead of BT).
>
>

My first one sucked big time. Complained to cingular. Sent me a new one and
it works great. Happy now!

"ô¿ô¬" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Harry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> : On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:33:34 -0500, Jer <[email protected]> wrote:
> :
> : >I'm one of a dozen people I know that all have a V551 (two of us have
> : >more than one), and we're all happy as pigs with new buckets of slop.
> : >
> : >Like thousands of others, we don't make a big deal about being this
> : >happy with our Moto toys, but since someone mentioned it...
> :
> : ... and three more happy customers
>
> . . .and 2 more happy customers
>
>

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:52:04 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

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>
>In <[email protected]> on Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:29:21 -0400, "Don
>Udel \(ETC\)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Agree with you on quality issues. For me however, the Moto menu was
>>cumbersome. I also did not care for the way each number for a person was
>>stored separately. The menu system did not work for me; I'm sure it works
>>well for others.
>
>Or the manual apparently, since it describes how to combine multiple numbers
>into a single combined entry. ;-)

That's really about my only complaint about the RAZR. I have about
600 numbers transferred from Outlook and you have to go through them
one by one.

John,

Is it possible to combine entries on the V600 also? I thought I had
read the manual thoroughly, and I noticed that it offers to allow a
"new entry" after entering a new number into the phone book, and I
thought that would keep it under the person's name. However, to my
chagrin, it ended up being a separate entry! :-(

I'm actually quite happy with my V600, which I've had since September
2004. I was dropping calls, but eventually found that it was only when
I was talking to friends with Verizon service, and apparently they were
the ones losing signal (when they looked at their handsets). I never
have this problem when speaking to other Cingular or even T-Mobile
users...

The earpiece volume IS too low...I need to do some hex editing now that
I have a USB cable.

Another strange thing is that it seemed like some of my total memory
disappeared, and now when I try to run some games (even those that came
factory installed), or play ring tones that I've added, the phone will
crash. Is this indicative of memory problems? I found one post that
suggested doing a "master clear" or "master reset," because he found
that when adding files via bluetooth, they sometimes get misfiled and
cause memory to disappear. It appears that mine is this plus a memory
conflict. Do you know anything about this issue?

OK, well other than good performance during calls, and good battery
life, I suppose I do have some issues with my V600!

Thanks,
Ford Man

Jeff wrote:
> I am sorry to hear that people do not like the Motorola phones. I have had
> nothing but /\/\otorola cell phones and wouldn't have it any other way. We
> have 2 551s in the house and we love them.

I'd have to say I agree; never had a problem with a Motorola phone; be
it AMPS, CDMA, iDEN or GSM (and I've tried all types over the years).
Currently on a black RAZR and am very happy with it.



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A dissenting voice -- my v551 has been a cingular [sic] mistake! I'm on
my 3rd one (warranty exchanges) due to extraordinarily short battery
life after following all the tips for conserving power and with pretty
limited usage, no games, etc. Also on my 3rd battery. Now I have a
phone/battery combo that gives me at least intermittently decent battery
time (sometimes 150hrs, but sometimes only 35-50hrs - no significant
difference in usage pattern).

In addition, the Mobile Phone Tools are a tremendous disappointment
compared to the Nokia software for simple backup of the phone directory
-- and it doesn't back up the settings at all (unlike Nokia).

The "Manual" is a joke! - worst I've ever encountered for any tech
product. It fails to explain the most basic necessary functions -- I
had to go to many websites to decipher the menu system.

BT is flaky, particularly for connecting to a PC (I finally got a cable)
whereas the Nokia IR worked flawlessly.

Never again!!

- Bioprof




BDC wrote:
> My first one sucked big time. Complained to cingular. Sent me a new one and
> it works great. Happy now!
>
> "ô¿ô¬" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Harry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:33:34 -0500, Jer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>:
>>: >I'm one of a dozen people I know that all have a V551 (two of us have
>>: >more than one), and we're all happy as pigs with new buckets of slop.
>>: >
>>: >Like thousands of others, we don't make a big deal about being this
>>: >happy with our Moto toys, but since someone mentioned it...
>>:
>>: ... and three more happy customers
>>
>>. . .and 2 more happy customers
>>
>>
>
>
>

In article <[email protected]>,
Bioprof <[email protected]> wrote:
>A dissenting voice -- my v551 has been a cingular [sic] mistake! I'm on
> my 3rd one (warranty exchanges) due to extraordinarily short battery
>life after following all the tips for conserving power and with pretty
>limited usage, no games, etc. Also on my 3rd battery. Now I have a
>phone/battery combo that gives me at least intermittently decent battery
>time (sometimes 150hrs, but sometimes only 35-50hrs - no significant
>difference in usage pattern).

Send it to Motorola for the April 15 firmware update specifically designed
to improve battery life. It also adds "vibe and ring" to the selectbale
audio alerts, and changes the boxed GPRS indicator to an "E" when you have
en EDGE data connection.

Thanks Elmo,

Yes, I read that in your reply to John Navas. I am only using the
phone directory on my V600, and all 250 entries on my 32K Cingular SIM
are empty. So, what's the mystery to store several entry types under a
single name in the directory?

Thanks,
Ford Man

Does anyone know if you can add a "contact" field in the V551 -- say you
have a company "ABC Corp" and you'd like to include a contact name as a
reminder in the Address Book...??

Rail
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Rail Jon Rogut Software
http://www.railjonrogut.com
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <85bDe.4759$p%[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >Agree with you on quality issues. For me however, the Moto menu was
>> >cumbersome. I also did not care for the way each number for a person
>> >was
>> >stored separately. The menu system did not work for me; I'm sure it
>> >works
>> >well for others.
>>
>> Or the manual apparently, since it describes how to combine multiple
>> numbers
>> into a single combined entry. ;-)
>
> Or maybe Navas doesn't understand that only phone-stored numbers can be
> set up this way, and that SIM-stored numbers cannot.
>
> Or maybe Navas is blind to the fact that most people prefer to store
> their numbers in the SIM for portability.
>
> Or maybe Navas is just an ignorant ass. ;-)
>