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  1. #1
    Bunny
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    Can John Navas or someone else explain if/how I can fax using a regular
    fax machine connected to a V3 using phonelabs Dock 'n Talk? (Yes I know
    the device doesn't claim to support fax).

    It dials successfully, but when the call is answered it gets as far as
    "Connecting" and then errors out. Is it because the digital signal
    isn't reliable enough, ala analog, to communicate properly?






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  2. #2
    Mark W. Oots
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    Re: Q - Fax over GSM? John Navas??


    "Bunny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Can John Navas or someone else explain if/how I can fax using a regular
    > fax machine connected to a V3 using phonelabs Dock 'n Talk? (Yes I know
    > the device doesn't claim to support fax).
    >
    > It dials successfully, but when the call is answered it gets as far as
    > "Connecting" and then errors out. Is it because the digital signal isn't
    > reliable enough, ala analog, to communicate properly?
    >
    >

    The problem is likely related to the fact that the data gets corrupted by
    the sampling/compression of the phone. Your compressed data from the fax
    machine gets sampled as audio, then compressed again before it is
    transmitted. At the other end, the system is trying to decipher what turns
    out to be incomplete data and the fax connection drops. Analog phones worked
    because the fax data was simply sent as an analog modulation of the signal.
    You're not likely to get any GSM phone to work for fax, unless the phone
    itself is generating the data packet. (being used as the fax modem.)

    Mark





  3. #3
    Stanley Reynolds
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    Re: Q - Fax over GSM? John Navas??


    "Mark W. Oots" <mark_ctc@(no spam)ameritech.net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Bunny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Can John Navas or someone else explain if/how I can fax using a regular
    > > fax machine connected to a V3 using phonelabs Dock 'n Talk? (Yes I know
    > > the device doesn't claim to support fax).
    > >
    > > It dials successfully, but when the call is answered it gets as far as
    > > "Connecting" and then errors out. Is it because the digital signal

    isn't
    > > reliable enough, ala analog, to communicate properly?
    > >
    > >

    > The problem is likely related to the fact that the data gets corrupted by
    > the sampling/compression of the phone. Your compressed data from the fax
    > machine gets sampled as audio, then compressed again before it is
    > transmitted. At the other end, the system is trying to decipher what turns
    > out to be incomplete data and the fax connection drops. Analog phones

    worked
    > because the fax data was simply sent as an analog modulation of the

    signal.
    > You're not likely to get any GSM phone to work for fax, unless the phone
    > itself is generating the data packet. (being used as the fax modem.)
    >
    > Mark
    >
    >

    try CSD from a PC/laptop or use one of the online fax services

    siemens ///c56 supports fax class 1
    http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=198

    http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/626975-1.html

    Built in modem data & Fax support - 14.4Kbps CSD & Fax
    http://www.popularelect.com/sendo_x-560.html

    john's stuff
    http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/fax.htm





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