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- 08-12-2005, 09:48 PM #1Larry C. GarrettGuest
A lot of people ask me how to fight back against a criminal
organization like Cingular which is fairly well connected politically.
The answer is that, while the corporate office has millions of bucks
and the political clout that goes along with that, they really are
oblivious to what is happening on the street, i.e. local level.
So what you do is get in with the local employees and get them on your
side. Then there are kinds of fun things you can do to the big
corporate behemoth, from inside the corporation.
More on this later.
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- 08-12-2005, 10:57 PM #2cityGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
Larry C. Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
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I stop at ever cingular store I see and bother a sales person.
They can't help, don't have answers, but i get some time for my money.
Childish yes.
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- 08-13-2005, 12:09 AM #3Tropical HavenGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
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>Larry C. Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
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>I stop at ever cingular store I see and bother a sales person.
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>They can't help, don't have answers, but i get some time for my money.
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>Childish yes.
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When a single company controls ALL telecommunications in the United
States and charges up the a$$ for services, remember that you had an
important part of that.
- 08-13-2005, 06:48 AM #4John NavasGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 12 Aug 2005 23:48:31
-0400, Larry C. Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
>A lot of people ask me how to fight back against a criminal
>organization like Cingular which is fairly well connected politically.
>
>The answer is that, while the corporate office has millions of bucks
>and the political clout that goes along with that, they really are
>oblivious to what is happening on the street, i.e. local level.
>
>So what you do is get in with the local employees and get them on your
>side. Then there are kinds of fun things you can do to the big
>corporate behemoth, from inside the corporation.
>
>More on this later.
Watch out, or the black helicopters will get you! LOL
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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 08-13-2005, 07:03 AM #5CoconutGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
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>Watch out, or the black helicopters will get you! LOL
I see them, I see them!!
- 08-13-2005, 07:43 AM #6JohnFGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
Pathetic yes.
"city" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Larry C. Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I stop at ever cingular store I see and bother a sales person.
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> They can't help, don't have answers, but i get some time for my money.
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> Childish yes.
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- 08-13-2005, 09:09 AM #7Herb KauhryGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
"More on" or "moron"?
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"Larry C. Garrett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> A lot of people ask me how to fight back against a criminal
> organization like Cingular which is fairly well connected politically.
>
> The answer is that, while the corporate office has millions of bucks
> and the political clout that goes along with that, they really are
> oblivious to what is happening on the street, i.e. local level.
>
> So what you do is get in with the local employees and get them on your
> side. Then there are kinds of fun things you can do to the big
> corporate behemoth, from inside the corporation.
>
> More on this later.
>
- 08-13-2005, 04:09 PM #8ThurmanGuest
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> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 12 Aug 2005
> 23:48:31
> -0400, Larry C. Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>A lot of people ask me how to fight back against a criminal
>>organization like Cingular which is fairly well connected politically.
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>>So what you do is get in with the local employees and get them on your
>>side. Then there are kinds of fun things you can do to the big
>>corporate behemoth, from inside the corporation.
>>
>>More on this later.
>
> Watch out, or the black helicopters will get you! LOL
John this pretty much dispels any doubt as to whether or not cell phones
held next to the head cause brain damage!
- 08-14-2005, 02:10 PM #9Jimmy SmithGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
"city" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Larry C. Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I stop at ever cingular store I see and bother a sales person.
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> They can't help, don't have answers, but i get some time for my money.
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> Childish yes.
did you fart in the stores? that is usually a good one.
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- 08-14-2005, 03:22 PM #10Member
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Originally Posted by Larry C. Garrett
I have some local gas station employees that I'm currently in with working on that issue too.
- 08-14-2005, 10:10 PM #11John NavasGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:09:51 -0500,
"Thurman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 12 Aug 2005
>> 23:48:31
>> -0400, Larry C. Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>A lot of people ask me how to fight back against a criminal
>>>organization like Cingular which is fairly well connected politically.
>.......
>>>So what you do is get in with the local employees and get them on your
>>>side. Then there are kinds of fun things you can do to the big
>>>corporate behemoth, from inside the corporation.
>>>
>>>More on this later.
>>
>> Watch out, or the black helicopters will get you! LOL
>
>John this pretty much dispels any doubt as to whether or not cell phones
>held next to the head cause brain damage!
LOL!
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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 08-15-2005, 07:03 AM #12CoconutGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
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>When a single company controls ALL telecommunications in the United
>States and charges up the a$$ for services, remember that you had an
>important part of that.
Its really no worse than other corporate giants - Walmart, General
Motors, Microsoft, etc etc..
- 08-15-2005, 12:03 PM #13Mark W. OotsGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
"Tropical Haven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> city wrote:
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>>Larry C. Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>I stop at ever cingular store I see and bother a sales person.
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>>They can't help, don't have answers, but i get some time for my money.
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>>Childish yes.
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> When a single company controls ALL telecommunications in the United States
> and charges up the a$$ for services, remember that you had an important
> part of that.
>
We once had (pretty much so) a single telco company (AT&T). Local phones
were subsidized by jacked up L/D and business rates. A man named Jack Goeken
(BTC, MCI, Airfone, Railfone, InFlight) didn't believe in the saying "You
can't fight Ma Bell" and did something about. It took years, went to the US
Supreme Court and the result is what we have today. (I worked for Jack for
5+ years and resigned from Airfone 2 days after he did).
If you think what we have is bad, try to imagine what it would be like if we
only had "Ma Bell" back.
Mark
- 08-15-2005, 02:20 PM #14Tropical HavenGuest
Re: Trashing Cingular - how to make Cingular pay
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>We once had (pretty much so) a single telco company (AT&T). Local phones
>were subsidized by jacked up L/D and business rates. A man named Jack Goeken
>(BTC, MCI, Airfone, Railfone, InFlight) didn't believe in the saying "You
>can't fight Ma Bell" and did something about. It took years, went to the US
>Supreme Court and the result is what we have today. (I worked for Jack for
>5+ years and resigned from Airfone 2 days after he did).
>
>If you think what we have is bad, try to imagine what it would be like if we
>only had "Ma Bell" back.
>
>Mark
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It's so tough to imagine that there might be a standardized system.
Europe, which had many analogue standards came up with a single digital
standard. The United States, with a single analog standard, has gone to
multiple digital standards (TDMA, iDEN, CDMA, GSM). Ultimately there
will 2 digital standards in the United States, but for at least 2 years
there will be 5 national standards.
No wonder everybody always complains about service.
TH
- 08-15-2005, 03:26 PM #15John NavasGuest
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In <lO6Me.4721$TR.3889@lakeread08> on Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:20:38 -0400,
Tropical Haven <[email protected]> wrote:
>>We once had (pretty much so) a single telco company (AT&T). Local phones
>>were subsidized by jacked up L/D and business rates. A man named Jack Goeken
>>(BTC, MCI, Airfone, Railfone, InFlight) didn't believe in the saying "You
>>can't fight Ma Bell" and did something about. It took years, went to the US
>>Supreme Court and the result is what we have today. (I worked for Jack for
>>5+ years and resigned from Airfone 2 days after he did).
>>
>>If you think what we have is bad, try to imagine what it would be like if we
>>only had "Ma Bell" back.
>It's so tough to imagine that there might be a standardized system.
>Europe, which had many analogue standards came up with a single digital
>standard. The United States, with a single analog standard, has gone to
>multiple digital standards (TDMA, iDEN, CDMA, GSM). Ultimately there
>will 2 digital standards in the United States, but for at least 2 years
>there will be 5 national standards.
>
>No wonder everybody always complains about service.
With a single standard, we might well have been stuck with D-AMPS (aka TMDA),
which I think would have been clearly worse than what we got. And the
Europeans are now migrating to WCDMA. I think it's pretty clear that the
market works better >> in the long run << than government-mandated
standardization, short run hassles notwithstanding.
That service (coverage) is worse in the USA than in Europe is mostly a matter
of geography.
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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
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