Need high-speed Internet via cellphone

Hi!

John Navas wrote:
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> In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:44:52 -0400,
> Dmitry Gromov <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Howard Huntley wrote:
>>
>>>I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful
>>>with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet
>>>for free. It was a life saver when my Cable modem would go out.
>>
>>Hm... Really? I have MediaNet unlimited an have no issues using it with
>>my laptop via SE S710a... Web and IMAP/SMTP work fine.
>>I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor
>>excessive use and close many ports...
>
>
> I've seen no evidence of monitoring for "excessive use" (and I sometimes have
> had very high usage), and the only port issue I've encountered is VPN (no
> problem with SSH).
>

Thank you for clarification. I have no prob with VPN not working and
I'd say SSH is sometimes better for me...

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> -0500, M.L. <[email protected]> wrote:

>>After reading the newsgroups and Google I'm still somewhat confused
>>about the current hardware needed to get high-speed wireless access to
>>the Internet via a cell phone tethered to a laptop.

I saw "tether" used for USB, as separate from Bluetooth, earlier in this
thread. I don't think that is correct. A PC or PDA connected to the
cellphone would be considered tethered regardless of how it is connected.

> Either a handset or a PC card will work.

I have used a Motorola V220 with USB, and a Motorola V551 with Bluetooth.

>>MediaWorks plan (at about $20./month).
> The option is actually "MEdia Net Unlimited".

https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase

MediaWorks includes some messaging. MediaNet is only data, no messaging.
MediaWorks used to have an unlimited data option. That is now 5MB.
It would seem that the best current plan is MediaNet unlimited and
pay-as-you-go-messaging.

If you sign up before September 24th, MediaNet 1MB would include unlimited
data for one month.

I added MediaNet unlimited to MediaBasic via the web, and the MediaNet was
canceled. When I called, they said I could only have one of the plans.

The default connection for the Cingular Connection Manager and the Mobile
Phone Tools GPRS connection is to use a login that is only available with
the Data Connect products (advertised on the business pages only).

The MediaNet or MediaWorks plan uses a different login. A phone from
Cingular is already set up for this GPRS "WAP" login. You can follow
along, seeing the configuration for this, in a Cingular tutorial.
http://www.cingular.com/customer_service/phones_devices
Select a manufacturer and model, like Motorola-V551
Category MediaNet - Tutorial Access Media Net.
Scroll down to the GPRS settings.

These values need to be transferred to the login setup on your PC.
This typically appears as a modem under network connections.

John also has these login values on his page, referenced in his signature.
The instructions there are categorized by different phones, but the
information is there.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

>> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful
>> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet
>> for free. It was a life saver when my Cable modem would go out.
>>
>
>Hm... Really? I have MediaNet unlimited an have no issues using it with
>my laptop via SE S710a... Web and IMAP/SMTP work fine.
>I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor
>excessive use and close many ports...

Thanks to everyone who replied. Like the poster above, I'd like some
closure to my original concern: Is MediaNet (or MediaWorks) an
unlimited account that can be tethered? If so, what type of cell phone
is required with it? Wouldn't tethering a cell phone be cheaper than
using a PCMCIA card? Thanks again.

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:44:52 -0400, Dmitry Gromov <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Howard Huntley wrote:
>> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful
>> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet
>> for free. It was a life saver when my Cable modem would go out.
>>
>
>Hm... Really? I have MediaNet unlimited an have no issues using it with
>my laptop via SE S710a... Web and IMAP/SMTP work fine.
>I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor
>excessive use and close many ports...

I just checked the Cingular website. It appears that MediaNet is no
longer offered with the unlimited option, but by the kilobyte.

>
> John also has these login values on his page, referenced in his signature.
> The instructions there are categorized by different phones, but the
> information is there.
>
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> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

Here is a link to the information, John has on his website:

<http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm>

I use MediaNet with a V400, USB cable and Motorola's phone tools. As long as
your phone is identified as a modem by Windows (assuming you are using
Windows) the setup given on, John's site works.

MediaWorks not MediaNet. Sorry.

"news.natinst.com" <ccc.ddd.cvf> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>
>> John also has these login values on his page, referenced in his
>> signature.
>> The instructions there are categorized by different phones, but the
>> information is there.
>>
>> --
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>> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5
>
> Here is a link to the information, John has on his website:
>
> <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm>
>
> I use MediaNet with a V400, USB cable and Motorola's phone tools. As long
> as your phone is identified as a modem by Windows (assuming you are using
> Windows) the setup given on, John's site works.
>

> seeing the configuration for this, in a Cingular tutorial.
> http://www.cingular.com/customer_service/phones_devices
Interesting. I've tried all the suggestions here and on the web
and my phone will not do GPRS on MediaNet. Now I note that Cingular
tutorial does not list the Nokia 6200. It did work when I bought it.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:21:18
-0500, M.L. <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful
>>> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet
>>> for free. It was a life saver when my Cable modem would go out.
>>
>>Hm... Really? I have MediaNet unlimited an have no issues using it with
>>my laptop via SE S710a... Web and IMAP/SMTP work fine.
>>I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor
>>excessive use and close many ports...
>
>Thanks to everyone who replied. Like the poster above, I'd like some
>closure to my original concern: Is MediaNet (or MediaWorks) an
>unlimited account that can be tethered?

As I wrote: It's not supported by Cingular, but isn't prohibited and does
work.

>If so, what type of cell phone
>is required with it?

Any data capable phone. Speed will depend on the Class of GPRS and
EGPRS(EDGE), which may well differ. Get Class 10 or 12 EGPRS(EDGE) for the
best possible speed. (The difference between Class 10 and 12 is that the
latter has higher upload speed potential -- download is the same.)

>Wouldn't tethering a cell phone be cheaper than
>using a PCMCIA card?

Not necessarily. Sony Ericsson GC82 PC Cards are going on eBay for only about
$30 (including shipping); e.g.,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6804206459

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:00:46
-0500, M.L. <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:44:52 -0400, Dmitry Gromov <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Howard Huntley wrote:
>>> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful
>>> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet
>>> for free. It was a life saver when my Cable modem would go out.
>>
>>Hm... Really? I have MediaNet unlimited an have no issues using it with
>>my laptop via SE S710a... Web and IMAP/SMTP work fine.
>>I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor
>>excessive use and close many ports...
>
>I just checked the Cingular website. It appears that MediaNet is no
>longer offered with the unlimited option, but by the kilobyte.

Here in Northern California at least,
<https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase> still shows "MEdia Net
Unlimited" at "$19.99 per month".

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John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:50:56 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] wrote:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> -0500, M.L. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>After reading the newsgroups and Google I'm still somewhat confused
>>>about the current hardware needed to get high-speed wireless access to
>>>the Internet via a cell phone tethered to a laptop.
>
>I saw "tether" used for USB, as separate from Bluetooth, earlier in this
>thread. I don't think that is correct. A PC or PDA connected to the
>cellphone would be considered tethered regardless of how it is connected.

Correct.

>>>MediaWorks plan (at about $20./month).
>> The option is actually "MEdia Net Unlimited".
>
>https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase
>
>MediaWorks includes some messaging. MediaNet is only data, no messaging.
>MediaWorks used to have an unlimited data option. That is now 5MB.
>It would seem that the best current plan is MediaNet unlimited and
>pay-as-you-go-messaging.

>I added MediaNet unlimited to MediaBasic via the web, and the MediaNet was
>canceled. When I called, they said I could only have one of the plans.

Messaging packages are at:
<http://www.cingular.com/media/text_messaging_purchase>
<http://www.cingular.com/media/multimedia_messaging_purchase>

>The default connection for the Cingular Connection Manager and the Mobile
>Phone Tools GPRS connection is to use a login that is only available with
>the Data Connect products (advertised on the business pages only).

Why use Cingular Connection Manager or Mobile Phone Tools when all you need is
Windows Dial-Up Networking?

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Actually both/either.

In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:11:49 -0500,
"David" <ccc.ddd.cvf> wrote:

>MediaWorks not MediaNet. Sorry.
>
>"news.natinst.com" <ccc.ddd.cvf> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> John also has these login values on his page, referenced in his
>>> signature.
>>> The instructions there are categorized by different phones, but the
>>> information is there.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---
>>> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5
>>
>> Here is a link to the information, John has on his website:
>>
>> <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm>
>>
>> I use MediaNet with a V400, USB cable and Motorola's phone tools. As long
>> as your phone is identified as a modem by Windows (assuming you are using
>> Windows) the setup given on, John's site works.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:25:22 -0500,
[email protected] wrote:

>> seeing the configuration for this, in a Cingular tutorial.
>> http://www.cingular.com/customer_service/phones_devices

> Interesting. I've tried all the suggestions here and on the web
>and my phone will not do GPRS on MediaNet. Now I note that Cingular
>tutorial does not list the Nokia 6200. It did work when I bought it.

The first step in troubleshooting is getting the WAP browser (and/or email
client) to work over GPRS. If that's not working, contact Customer Care
and/or take the handset in to a Cingular store. Once that's working, all
that's needed in Windows Dial-Up Networking is a modem entry for the handset
and the correct settings from my
<http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm>.
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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Why use Cingular Connection Manager or Mobile Phone Tools when all you
> need is Windows Dial-Up Networking?

WindowsXP-SP2 did install a modem driver for my v551 Bluetooth.
WindowsXP-SP2 did not install a modem driver for my v220 USB.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:08:15 UTC, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:05:02 -0700,
> "Aaron" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >the 40$ month unlimited PDA plan should work just fine with any edge capable
> >cards.
>
> The $20/month MEdia Net Unlimited option works just fine with EDGE-capable
> handsets (including tethered use of a computer) and PC Cards.

I think that, for many of us, we just worry that since they don't
explicitly authorize tethering, and also have pricy laptop plans also
available, that they may decide to charge at an inconvenient time,
such as 29 days and 100mb into the month.

They haven't yet, for me, with my PDA tethering, with one month over
30MB used.

It also doesn't help that they keep on breaking their web page. Went
today to check usage for the current month as of the 16th, and it
posted that due to account changes, they couldn't give data usage.
What account change?
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In <KIRoJuEXw9g9-pn2-Jm1UKLHl5kbC@ecs> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:13:48 GMT,
"Kevin K" <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:08:15 UTC, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:

>I think that, for many of us, we just worry that since they don't
>explicitly authorize tethering, and also have pricy laptop plans also
>available, that they may decide to charge at an inconvenient time,
>such as 29 days and 100mb into the month.

I don't think there's any real worry or risk of that, because there's nothing
in the Service Agreement that would make it possible, as you should see if you
study it carefully. Unlimited is quite simply unlimited.

I've had a number of months were Cingular incorrectly charged me for data, and
all have been corrected -- in over a year of heavy use, I've never had to pay
more than $20/month for data.

>They haven't yet, for me, with my PDA tethering, with one month over
>30MB used.

I've had months with literally hundreds of megabytes.

>It also doesn't help that they keep on breaking their web page. Went
>today to check usage for the current month as of the 16th, and it
>posted that due to account changes, they couldn't give data usage.
>What account change?

My guess is ongoing maintenance as subscribers are migrated to common backend
systems.

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