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  1. #16
    Bob Fry
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    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    >>>>> "JN" == John Navas <[email protected]> writes:

    JN> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] In
    JN> <[email protected]> on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:05:06
    JN> -0800, Bob Fry
    JN> <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>>>>>> "JN" == John Navas <[email protected]> writes:

    >>

    JN> Did you try removing the battery for a hard reset?
    >> Yes--the battery must be removed to get at the SIM.


    JN> *After* the problem with the new SIM?

    Uhmmm...the battery must be removed to get at the SIM, so every time
    we switched SIMs, the battery was taken out.

    Here's the general sequence:

    I get the letter with new SIM #1. Next day at work I turn off the
    phone, take out the battery, take out 6-year old SIM, put in new one,
    put battery back in, turn on phone, it's locked. I call Cingular
    service, after much screwing around and asking the same questions a
    dozen times they finally referred me to a Cingular store.

    Go to the store, they tried yet another new SIM #2, thinking new #1 was
    bad, but it's the same story, phone locked, long phone calls to tech
    support...this time the Cingular store guy was doing the calling.
    After much screwing around they concluded the x427 wasn't going to
    support the new SIMs, and they couldn't un-activate at HQ to let me
    use the old original SIM, so they ordered a new phone, the next model
    up, which model number I forget but I will know when I pick up the
    phone between 9:30 and 10:00 pm tonight from the UPS place (see prior
    post).

    JN> If you complain firmly enough, I think Cingular will come
    JN> around.

    Well, they did, see above. Hey, stuff happens, and Cingular did make
    good without me *****ing, I just hope to prevent others from going
    thru this bother.



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  2. #17

    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    ....Not to mention the fact that if you try and activate the SIM and
    your contract has expired, you have to agree to a new 2 year contract.
    What a lousy trick! Signing a contract is a valuable thing to give
    away, if I was going to do that I am going to get all of my free
    phones.

    Andy Alexis




  3. #18
    John Navas
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    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on 15 Dec 2005
    09:02:26 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

    >...Not to mention the fact that if you try and activate the SIM and
    >your contract has expired, you have to agree to a new 2 year contract.
    >...


    What makes you think that?
    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  4. #19
    John Navas
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    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:52:41 -0800, Bob Fry
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Well, they did, see above. Hey, stuff happens, and Cingular did make
    >good without me *****ing, I just hope to prevent others from going
    >thru this bother.


    My own opinion is that it's better to do what's necessary to use the new SIM,
    which should improve your network performance (thanks to ENS if nothing else).

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  5. #20
    Bob Fry
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    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    >>>>> "JN" == John Navas <[email protected]> writes:

    JN> My own opinion is that it's better to do what's necessary to
    JN> use the new SIM, which should improve your network performance
    JN> (thanks to ENS if nothing else).

    Could you elaborate on the advantages of the new SIM? I still am
    eagerly awaiting my new phone and card.
    BF



  6. #21
    John Navas
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    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:54:09 -0800, Bob Fry
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>>>>> "JN" == John Navas <[email protected]> writes:

    >
    > JN> My own opinion is that it's better to do what's necessary to
    > JN> use the new SIM, which should improve your network performance
    > JN> (thanks to ENS if nothing else).
    >
    >Could you elaborate on the advantages of the new SIM? I still am
    >eagerly awaiting my new phone and card.


    See ENS in the FAQ below.

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  7. #22

    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    > My own opinion is that it's better to do what's necessary to use the new SIM,
    > which should improve your network performance (thanks to ENS if nothing else).
    >
    > --
    > Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    > John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ


    That FAQ says:
    >The new Cingular ENS handsets and Cingular (orange) 64K SIMs (if you have
    >both) make it possible for Cingular ...


    If ENS only makes a difference if you have both a 64K SIM and a "new
    Cingular ENS handset", why are they bothering to mail SIMs to a seemingly
    random subset of old accounts?
    Also, I gather it's the case that Cingular can't tell what kind of
    phone you are using - only what SIM you have?



  8. #23
    John Navas
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    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:07:04 -0600,
    [email protected] wrote:

    >> My own opinion is that it's better to do what's necessary to use the new SIM,
    >> which should improve your network performance (thanks to ENS if nothing else).


    > That FAQ says:
    >>The new Cingular ENS handsets and Cingular (orange) 64K SIMs (if you have
    >>both) make it possible for Cingular ...

    >
    > If ENS only makes a difference if you have both a 64K SIM and a "new
    >Cingular ENS handset", why are they bothering to mail SIMs to a seemingly
    >random subset of old accounts?


    Probably to prepare for the upcoming network integration.

    > Also, I gather it's the case that Cingular can't tell what kind of
    >phone you are using - only what SIM you have?


    Essentially correct. (There is a way to tell, but it's non-trivial.)

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  9. #24
    Bob Fry
    Guest

    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    >>>>> "BF" == Bob Fry <[email protected]> writes:

    BF> I still
    BF> am eagerly awaiting my new phone and card.

    Arrived today; a forced upgrade from a Samsung x427 to an x497. Nice
    upgrade, apart from now the SIM card actually works, because the x497
    is tri-band, and it has an LCD display on the outside to check calls
    without opening the phone. But it has a poorer selection of
    ringtones; I miss my old-fashioned Bell telephone ringing sound.
    Maybe I can shop for it.

    After reading over the advantages of the new card (Thanks John Nava),
    I'm not convinced the whole thing was worth it. I rarely had
    connection problems anyway. But here I am at the end of it.



  10. #25
    Andy Alexis
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    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:35:24 GMT, John Navas
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    >In <[email protected]> on 15 Dec 2005
    >09:02:26 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >>...Not to mention the fact that if you try and activate the SIM and
    >>your contract has expired, you have to agree to a new 2 year contract.
    >>...

    >
    >What makes you think that?


    As you go through the activation process, it says "Do you agree to a
    new contract", or something like that, and you have to say "yes"...

    Andy



  11. #26
    John Navas
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    Re: Cingular SIM card upgrade, stop!

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:43:19
    -0800, Andy Alexis <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:35:24 GMT, John Navas
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>In <[email protected]> on 15 Dec 2005
    >>09:02:26 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
    >>
    >>>...Not to mention the fact that if you try and activate the SIM and
    >>>your contract has expired, you have to agree to a new 2 year contract.
    >>>...

    >>
    >>What makes you think that?

    >
    >As you go through the activation process, it says "Do you agree to a
    >new contract", or something like that, and you have to say "yes"...


    Really? Just for a new SIM? Not in my experience.

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



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