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  1. #1
    J Collins
    Guest
    As I'm thinking of changing to Cingular in the future, I'm closely reading
    the fine print of their latest brochure. I have two excerpts of concern as
    follows:

    1. "Calls placed on networks by other carriers may take longer to be
    processed, and billing for these calls may be delayed. Those minutes will
    be applied against your anytime monthly minutes in the month in which the
    calls appear on your bill." I interpret this as saying that any delayed
    billing will be taken from future anytime minutes--even if those calls were
    made during N/W times...........what does this mean exactly?

    2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5 million
    times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for the
    call". What does this mean, exactly?

    Thanks so much for any responses.





    See More: A few questions.......




  2. #2
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:17:08 GMT,
    "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >As I'm thinking of changing to Cingular in the future, I'm closely reading
    >the fine print of their latest brochure. I have two excerpts of concern as
    >follows:
    >
    >1. "Calls placed on networks by other carriers may take longer to be
    >processed, and billing for these calls may be delayed. Those minutes will
    >be applied against your anytime monthly minutes in the month in which the
    >calls appear on your bill." I interpret this as saying that any delayed
    >billing will be taken from future anytime minutes--even if those calls were
    >made during N/W times...........what does this mean exactly?


    It simply means that they will be charged against the appropriate minute
    category (anytime, rollover, N&W) in the month in which they are processed,
    not the month in which the calls were made, and not any anytime if made during
    N&W.

    >2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    >incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    >interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5 million
    >times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for the
    >call". What does this mean, exactly?


    Just what you guessed -- you are always charged for incoming calls, whether on
    your handset or on your voicemail..

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  3. #3
    J Collins
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    Thanks for your answers, but I want to make absolutely sure of something.
    On Cingular, customers are charged for missed calls and calls which go to
    voicemail, in other words, incoming calls which are not answered, whether or
    not they go to voicemail...........is this correct?

    If so, that's a deal-breaker for me. I can also see why (if this IS the
    case) the rollover minutes are necessary. This is ridiculous, if it is
    true!


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:17:08
    > GMT,
    > "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>As I'm thinking of changing to Cingular in the future, I'm closely reading
    >>the fine print of their latest brochure. I have two excerpts of concern
    >>as
    >>follows:
    >>
    >>1. "Calls placed on networks by other carriers may take longer to be
    >>processed, and billing for these calls may be delayed. Those minutes will
    >>be applied against your anytime monthly minutes in the month in which the
    >>calls appear on your bill." I interpret this as saying that any delayed
    >>billing will be taken from future anytime minutes--even if those calls
    >>were
    >>made during N/W times...........what does this mean exactly?

    >
    > It simply means that they will be charged against the appropriate minute
    > category (anytime, rollover, N&W) in the month in which they are
    > processed,
    > not the month in which the calls were made, and not any anytime if made
    > during
    > N&W.
    >
    >>2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    >>incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    >>interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5 million
    >>times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for
    >>the
    >>call". What does this mean, exactly?

    >
    > Just what you guessed -- you are always charged for incoming calls,
    > whether on
    > your handset or on your voicemail..
    >
    > --
    > Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    > John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>






  4. #4
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    I didn't say that, and there's nothing ridiculous about it. You are charged
    for incoming calls that (1) you answer or (2) go to voicemail. You will only
    be charged for unanswered calls that don't go to voicemail if you turn off
    voicemail and/or increase your ring timeout from the default.

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:40:20 GMT,
    "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Thanks for your answers, but I want to make absolutely sure of something.
    >On Cingular, customers are charged for missed calls and calls which go to
    >voicemail, in other words, incoming calls which are not answered, whether or
    >not they go to voicemail...........is this correct?
    >
    >If so, that's a deal-breaker for me. I can also see why (if this IS the
    >case) the rollover minutes are necessary. This is ridiculous, if it is
    >true!
    >
    >
    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >>
    >> In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:17:08
    >> GMT,
    >> "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>As I'm thinking of changing to Cingular in the future, I'm closely reading
    >>>the fine print of their latest brochure. I have two excerpts of concern
    >>>as
    >>>follows:
    >>>
    >>>1. "Calls placed on networks by other carriers may take longer to be
    >>>processed, and billing for these calls may be delayed. Those minutes will
    >>>be applied against your anytime monthly minutes in the month in which the
    >>>calls appear on your bill." I interpret this as saying that any delayed
    >>>billing will be taken from future anytime minutes--even if those calls
    >>>were
    >>>made during N/W times...........what does this mean exactly?

    >>
    >> It simply means that they will be charged against the appropriate minute
    >> category (anytime, rollover, N&W) in the month in which they are
    >> processed,
    >> not the month in which the calls were made, and not any anytime if made
    >> during
    >> N&W.
    >>
    >>>2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    >>>incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    >>>interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5 million
    >>>times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for
    >>>the
    >>>call". What does this mean, exactly?

    >>
    >> Just what you guessed -- you are always charged for incoming calls,
    >> whether on
    >> your handset or on your voicemail..
    >>
    >> --
    >> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    >> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

    >


    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  5. #5
    J Collins
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    John, you are writing to me as if I'm a dumb*ss. Please re-read my #2 and
    your original post. I made it clear that I was speaking of unanswered calls
    from my end, and you made it "clear" that I would indeed be charged for said
    (incoming, unanswered) calls. I believe you didn't take in all of my post
    in your original response and now you're acting like I don't have a clue.
    Is anyone so stupid that (unless they have the Sprint plan with free
    incoming calls) they'd actually think they didn't have to pay for answered
    incoming calls? Surely there's a whole different newsgroup for people that
    stupid!


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >I didn't say that, and there's nothing ridiculous about it. You are
    >charged
    > for incoming calls that (1) you answer or (2) go to voicemail. You will
    > only
    > be charged for unanswered calls that don't go to voicemail if you turn off
    > voicemail and/or increase your ring timeout from the default.
    >
    > In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:40:20
    > GMT,
    > "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Thanks for your answers, but I want to make absolutely sure of something.
    >>On Cingular, customers are charged for missed calls and calls which go to
    >>voicemail, in other words, incoming calls which are not answered, whether
    >>or
    >>not they go to voicemail...........is this correct?
    >>
    >>If so, that's a deal-breaker for me. I can also see why (if this IS the
    >>case) the rollover minutes are necessary. This is ridiculous, if it is
    >>true!
    >>
    >>
    >>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]...
    >>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >>>
    >>> In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:17:08
    >>> GMT,
    >>> "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>As I'm thinking of changing to Cingular in the future, I'm closely
    >>>>reading
    >>>>the fine print of their latest brochure. I have two excerpts of concern
    >>>>as
    >>>>follows:
    >>>>
    >>>>1. "Calls placed on networks by other carriers may take longer to be
    >>>>processed, and billing for these calls may be delayed. Those minutes
    >>>>will
    >>>>be applied against your anytime monthly minutes in the month in which
    >>>>the
    >>>>calls appear on your bill." I interpret this as saying that any delayed
    >>>>billing will be taken from future anytime minutes--even if those calls
    >>>>were
    >>>>made during N/W times...........what does this mean exactly?
    >>>
    >>> It simply means that they will be charged against the appropriate minute
    >>> category (anytime, rollover, N&W) in the month in which they are
    >>> processed,
    >>> not the month in which the calls were made, and not any anytime if made
    >>> during
    >>> N&W.
    >>>
    >>>>2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    >>>>incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    >>>>interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5
    >>>>million
    >>>>times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for
    >>>>the
    >>>>call". What does this mean, exactly?
    >>>
    >>> Just what you guessed -- you are always charged for incoming calls,
    >>> whether on
    >>> your handset or on your voicemail..
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    >>> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

    >>

    >
    > --
    > Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    > John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>






  6. #6
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006
    16:14:37 GMT, "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >John, you are writing to me as if I'm a dumb*ss.


    Sorry you feel that way -- wasn't my intention.

    >Please re-read my #2 and
    >your original post.


    I actually read them quite carefully.

    >I made it clear that I was speaking of unanswered calls
    >from my end, and you made it "clear" that I would indeed be charged for said
    >(incoming, unanswered) calls.


    Wasn't, and still isn't, clear to me -- as I wrote, unanswered calls normally
    go to voicemail, for which you are charged air time.

    >I believe you didn't take in all of my post
    >in your original response and now you're acting like I don't have a clue.


    I think you're being overly sensitive (no offense intended).

    >Is anyone so stupid that (unless they have the Sprint plan with free
    >incoming calls) they'd actually think they didn't have to pay for answered
    >incoming calls? Surely there's a whole different newsgroup for people that
    >stupid!


    Call me stupid, but I guess I still don't understand what you mean by
    unanswered calls that don't go to voicemail.

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >>I didn't say that, and there's nothing ridiculous about it. You are
    >>charged
    >> for incoming calls that (1) you answer or (2) go to voicemail. You will
    >> only
    >> be charged for unanswered calls that don't go to voicemail if you turn off
    >> voicemail and/or increase your ring timeout from the default.
    >>
    >> In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:40:20
    >> GMT,
    >> "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Thanks for your answers, but I want to make absolutely sure of something.
    >>>On Cingular, customers are charged for missed calls and calls which go to
    >>>voicemail, in other words, incoming calls which are not answered, whether
    >>>or
    >>>not they go to voicemail...........is this correct?
    >>>
    >>>If so, that's a deal-breaker for me. I can also see why (if this IS the
    >>>case) the rollover minutes are necessary. This is ridiculous, if it is
    >>>true!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]...
    >>>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >>>>
    >>>> In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:17:08
    >>>> GMT,
    >>>> "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>As I'm thinking of changing to Cingular in the future, I'm closely
    >>>>>reading
    >>>>>the fine print of their latest brochure. I have two excerpts of concern
    >>>>>as
    >>>>>follows:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>1. "Calls placed on networks by other carriers may take longer to be
    >>>>>processed, and billing for these calls may be delayed. Those minutes
    >>>>>will
    >>>>>be applied against your anytime monthly minutes in the month in which
    >>>>>the
    >>>>>calls appear on your bill." I interpret this as saying that any delayed
    >>>>>billing will be taken from future anytime minutes--even if those calls
    >>>>>were
    >>>>>made during N/W times...........what does this mean exactly?
    >>>>
    >>>> It simply means that they will be charged against the appropriate minute
    >>>> category (anytime, rollover, N&W) in the month in which they are
    >>>> processed,
    >>>> not the month in which the calls were made, and not any anytime if made
    >>>> during
    >>>> N&W.
    >>>>
    >>>>>2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    >>>>>incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    >>>>>interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5
    >>>>>million
    >>>>>times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for
    >>>>>the
    >>>>>call". What does this mean, exactly?
    >>>>
    >>>> Just what you guessed -- you are always charged for incoming calls,
    >>>> whether on
    >>>> your handset or on your voicemail..


    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  7. #7
    Marty
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    Somewhere around Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:49:44 GMT, while reading
    alt.cellular.cingular, I think I thought I saw this post from John Navas
    <[email protected]>:


    >>I made it clear that I was speaking of unanswered calls
    >>from my end, and you made it "clear" that I would indeed be charged for said
    >>(incoming, unanswered) calls.

    >
    >Wasn't, and still isn't, clear to me -- as I wrote, unanswered calls normally
    >go to voicemail, for which you are charged air time.
    >

    John, try to be civil; I'm not sure if you are correct or not, but I can
    certainly understand his issue, and you may or may not, but if you do,
    you're not letting on.

    Are you saying that if I never check my voice mail messages, I will still be
    charged airtime for those messages? If my phone is turned off for the whole
    month, are you saying I might still incur substantial charges if someone is
    trying very hard to call me, possibly during the day?

    If so, I think this would be something that most people wouldn't suspect to
    be the case. If I had a very limited allotment of anytime minutes, I'd
    think I could control the number used by not calling or answering during the
    day, but you are saying I should answer, as it may cost as much or more to
    allow it to go to voice mail.

    I believe I will check with Cingular to see if you are correct. My advice
    to the original poster is to do the same if it is important. In general,
    never make a decision based on the answer you get from one person in a
    newsgroup without confirmation.

    --
    Marty - public.forums (at) gmail (dot) com
    "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...
    well, I have others." - Groucho Marx



  8. #8
    J Collins
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    Thanks, Marty!

    "Marty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Somewhere around Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:49:44 GMT, while reading
    > alt.cellular.cingular, I think I thought I saw this post from John Navas
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >
    >>>I made it clear that I was speaking of unanswered calls
    >>>from my end, and you made it "clear" that I would indeed be charged for
    >>>said
    >>>(incoming, unanswered) calls.

    >>
    >>Wasn't, and still isn't, clear to me -- as I wrote, unanswered calls
    >>normally
    >>go to voicemail, for which you are charged air time.
    >>

    > John, try to be civil; I'm not sure if you are correct or not, but I can
    > certainly understand his issue, and you may or may not, but if you do,
    > you're not letting on.
    >
    > Are you saying that if I never check my voice mail messages, I will still
    > be
    > charged airtime for those messages? If my phone is turned off for the
    > whole
    > month, are you saying I might still incur substantial charges if someone
    > is
    > trying very hard to call me, possibly during the day?
    >
    > If so, I think this would be something that most people wouldn't suspect
    > to
    > be the case. If I had a very limited allotment of anytime minutes, I'd
    > think I could control the number used by not calling or answering during
    > the
    > day, but you are saying I should answer, as it may cost as much or more to
    > allow it to go to voice mail.
    >
    > I believe I will check with Cingular to see if you are correct. My advice
    > to the original poster is to do the same if it is important. In general,
    > never make a decision based on the answer you get from one person in a
    > newsgroup without confirmation.
    >
    > --
    > Marty - public.forums (at) gmail (dot) com
    > "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...
    > well, I have others." - Groucho Marx






  9. #9
    Harry
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:39:20 GMT, John Navas
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    SNIP


    >>2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    >>incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    >>interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5 million
    >>times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for the
    >>call". What does this mean, exactly?

    >
    >Just what you guessed -- you are always charged for incoming calls, whether on
    >your handset or on your voicemail..


    I am not charged for calls to me that I do not answer, whether they go
    to voicemail or not. I am charged for my call to voicemail to get the
    message.




  10. #10
    J Collins
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    Thanks, Harry. It simply doesn't make sense to me that *I* would be so
    vulnerable that anyone could call my phone multiple times a day and I would
    be charged, even if I didn't answer (whether or not they actually left a
    voicemail). Heck, Cingular could set up employees to sit and call
    customers' phones and really run up bills.............I mean, to me this is
    a crazy charge! Sadly, I just called the 800# (previously tried to do
    things locally so as to not cost the company any money and was told, flat
    out, that any incoming call, whether answered or unanswered, minus or plus a
    voicemail message being left, will incur a charge against my monthly
    allotment. Since one CS "confirmed" this, even if the next 50 I asked
    denied it, this is definitely something that would prevent me from ever
    going to Cingular. Not that they'll miss me--it just really seems like an
    unfair business practice to me.

    John, sorry we weren't sympatico .

    J

    "Harry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:39:20 GMT, John Navas
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > SNIP
    >
    >
    >>>2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    >>>incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    >>>interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5 million
    >>>times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for
    >>>the
    >>>call". What does this mean, exactly?

    >>
    >>Just what you guessed -- you are always charged for incoming calls,
    >>whether on
    >>your handset or on your voicemail..

    >
    > I am not charged for calls to me that I do not answer, whether they go
    > to voicemail or not. I am charged for my call to voicemail to get the
    > message.
    >






  11. #11
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:05:44
    -0800, Marty <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Somewhere around Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:49:44 GMT, while reading
    >alt.cellular.cingular, I think I thought I saw this post from John Navas
    ><[email protected]>:
    >
    >>>I made it clear that I was speaking of unanswered calls
    >>>from my end, and you made it "clear" that I would indeed be charged for said
    >>>(incoming, unanswered) calls.

    >>
    >>Wasn't, and still isn't, clear to me -- as I wrote, unanswered calls normally
    >>go to voicemail, for which you are charged air time.
    >>

    >John, try to be civil;


    I'm being quite civil, and have spent a significant amount of time trying to
    help. Try not to be so easily annoyed and to be a bit more appreciative.

    >I'm not sure if you are correct or not, but I can
    >certainly understand his issue, and you may or may not, but if you do,
    >you're not letting on.


    I freely admit that I'm having a difficult time understanding what makes this
    an issue.

    >Are you saying that if I never check my voice mail messages, I will still be
    >charged airtime for those messages?


    I was, but I've just checked, and see that my previous statement is out of
    date -- Cingular confirmed to me that there is *no* charge for incoming
    voicemail messages.

    >If my phone is turned off for the whole
    >month, are you saying I might still incur substantial charges if someone is
    >trying very hard to call me, possibly during the day?


    You won't be.

    >If so, I think this would be something that most people wouldn't suspect to
    >be the case.
    >If I had a very limited allotment of anytime minutes, I'd
    >think I could control the number used by not calling or answering during the
    >day, but you are saying I should answer, as it may cost as much or more to
    >allow it to go to voice mail.
    >I believe I will check with Cingular to see if you are correct.


    Good idea.

    >My advice
    >to the original poster is to do the same if it is important. In general,
    >never make a decision based on the answer you get from one person in a
    >newsgroup without confirmation.


    Good advice -- I was wrong.

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  12. #12
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:17:08 GMT,
    "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >As I'm thinking of changing to Cingular in the future, I'm closely reading
    >the fine print of their latest brochure. I have two excerpts of concern as
    >follows:
    >[SNIP]
    >2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    >incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    >interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5 million
    >times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for the
    >call". What does this mean, exactly?


    If you're referring to the material at
    <http://www.cingular.com/b2b/OfficeReach_terms_pop>, this applies only to
    "OfficeReach" business service, not consumer service.

    On consumer service there is *no* charge for recording incoming voicemail
    messages or for retrieving them by landline. The only voicemail charge is for
    retrieval over the air, for which regular airtime charges apply.

    I just verified this with Cingular. My apologies for posting incorrect
    information previously.

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  13. #13
    J Collins
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    Thanks, John. Maybe we are sympatico...........I'm a chick, by the way .

    Now I'm "hesitant" because of what the person on the 800 # told me. I guess
    the cell companies are all the same and you go for "2 out of 3" responses.

    Have a good one!

    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <[email protected]> on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:17:08
    > GMT,
    > "J Collins" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>As I'm thinking of changing to Cingular in the future, I'm closely reading
    >>the fine print of their latest brochure. I have two excerpts of concern
    >>as
    >>follows:
    >>[SNIP]
    >>2. "You may be charged for both an incoming and an outgoing call when
    >>incoming calls are routed to voicemail, even if no message is left." I
    >>interpret part of this as saying "anyone can call my cell phone 5 million
    >>times a day and, even if I don't answer the call, I will get charged for
    >>the
    >>call". What does this mean, exactly?

    >
    > If you're referring to the material at
    > <http://www.cingular.com/b2b/OfficeReach_terms_pop>, this applies only to
    > "OfficeReach" business service, not consumer service.
    >
    > On consumer service there is *no* charge for recording incoming voicemail
    > messages or for retrieving them by landline. The only voicemail charge is
    > for
    > retrieval over the air, for which regular airtime charges apply.
    >
    > I just verified this with Cingular. My apologies for posting incorrect
    > information previously.
    >
    > --
    > Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    > John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>






  14. #14
    J Collins
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    Was this a slam ?

    "subdude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:42:18 GMT, "J Collins" <[email protected]>
    > graced us with:
    >
    >>Thanks, John. Maybe we are sympatico...........I'm a chick, by the way
    >>.

    >
    > Ahhh, that explains it.
    >
    >






  15. #15
    J Collins
    Guest

    Re: A few questions.......

    I understand......and, sadly, I am a bit too sensitive!


    "subdude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:36:18 GMT, "J Collins" <[email protected]>
    > graced us with:
    >
    >>Was this a slam ?
    >>
    >>"subdude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]...
    >>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:42:18 GMT, "J Collins" <[email protected]>
    >>> graced us with:
    >>>
    >>>>Thanks, John. Maybe we are sympatico...........I'm a chick, by the way
    >>>>.
    >>>
    >>> Ahhh, that explains it.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>

    > Half jokingly.
    >
    > If you read the entire thread as a outsider, like I did (and then got
    > a second opinion from a work mate like I did) you'd see that you
    > reacted totally inappropriately to a guy who was trying to help you
    > based on the limited information you provided.
    >
    > Not that we haven't ALL done that from time to time.






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