USB to Bluetooth cellphone speed?

P Hoberg wrote:
> I use "news.west.cox.net" when I'm using my Cox cable modem. It doesn't
> work when I'm using MediaNet. Do you have any idea what I could use
> successfully to get to this (Motorola) and similar newsgroups with MediaNet?

To prevent spaming and other issues, lot of ISPs only allow access to
their new group server via their own gateway.

For example, if you are an Earthlink account user and try to use their
news server while using someone's SBC dialup account to connect to the
internet, it may not let you authenticate.

I don't recall if I could use my Eathlink news server while using my
Sprint phone as a modem or if I had to use my SBC news server as I'm
doing now with my Cingular phone.

You'll need to use an open news server, but since I don't have this
problem I don't know of any off the top of my head. I know that some
other users there have the answer.

You might try to Google for umm..."open news servers".

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In alt.cellular.cingular P Hoberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Status" says 230K when using the cable, 115K when using bluetooth.
> Browsing seems to be the same speed when using either. Slow but not
> unusable.

That is the "connection" between the PC and the phone, not between the
phone and the network. It is adjustable in the properties for the modem on
the PC. It should be at 230400 for both, so that it is faster than the
network.

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In alt.cellular.cingular P Hoberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> I use "news.west.cox.net" when I'm using my Cox cable modem. It doesn't
> work when I'm using MediaNet. Do you have any idea what I could use
> successfully to get to this (Motorola) and similar newsgroups with MediaNet?

I would call Cox support, and ask if there is a server that you can use
while you are connected at work.

I suspect that you can't send email out with the standard setting of
smtp.west.cox.net, either.

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I have no trouble receiving email from any of the 7 email accounts set up in
my OE6. And I can send email from my normal COX account, my ATT account,
and others.

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> In alt.cellular.cingular P Hoberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I use "news.west.cox.net" when I'm using my Cox cable modem. It doesn't
>> work when I'm using MediaNet. Do you have any idea what I could use
>> successfully to get to this (Motorola) and similar newsgroups with
>> MediaNet?
>
> I would call Cox support, and ask if there is a server that you can use
> while you are connected at work.
>
> I suspect that you can't send email out with the standard setting of
> smtp.west.cox.net, either.
>
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> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

I doubt if I'll actually get better than the 115K or so over MediaNet via
USB cable or bluetooth connecting my laptop to my V551. It's slow, but
acceptable for my limited purposes.

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> In alt.cellular.cingular P Hoberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Status" says 230K when using the cable, 115K when using bluetooth.
>> Browsing seems to be the same speed when using either. Slow but not
>> unusable.
>
> That is the "connection" between the PC and the phone, not between the
> phone and the network. It is adjustable in the properties for the modem
> on
> the PC. It should be at 230400 for both, so that it is faster than the
> network.
>
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> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

In alt.cellular.motorola P Hoberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> I doubt if I'll actually get better than the 115K or so over MediaNet via
> USB cable or bluetooth connecting my laptop to my V551. It's slow, but
> acceptable for my limited purposes.

The ~100Kbps ftp throughput that I get with my v551 Bluetooth in a strong
EDGE area might make me want a little more headroom, but you're right.
There is some overhead, so I thought 230400 was a nice number.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

In alt.cellular.motorola P Hauberk <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have no trouble receiving email from any of the 7 email accounts set up
> in my OE6. And I can send email from my normal COX account, my ATT
> account, and others.

I'm surprised they let smtp traffic go through, but they might be using a
POP-first, temporary IP authentication scheme like my ISP does.

I'd still call Cox and ask if there's an alternate server that you could
use to connect your laptop via the Work LAN, or your friend's non-Cox
connection. No mention of GPRS. What you want is access from outside of
the Cox network. If they say "It ought to work", then I don't know.
Or, phrased differently... Can you connect for news when you are on someone
else's network, and just can't do it via MEdiaNet?

I can ping news.west.cox.net, which I didn't really expect.
I can't ping netnews.mchsi.com unless I am on their network.

But if I try an nntp connection to news.west.cox.net, it fails, just like
netnews.mchsi.com when I'm not on their network.

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I recommend Bluetooth 1.1 over 1.0 because it coexists better with Wi-Fi and
is more reliable.

In <HPRZf.70$Jk2.54@fed1read03> on Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:48:39 -0700, "P Hoberg"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Thanks, John. Ignore my IrDA (infrared? Duh!) question. I was just worried
>that like USB 1.0 vs. 2.0, there is some bluetooth standard I should worry
>about. I've always used the 1.0 USB port on my laptop because my 2.0 USB PC
>card caused problems I couldn't get around, and I believed any USB speed was
>much faster than what the serial port on the phone was capable of. I just
>found "The first generation of Bluetooth permits exchange of data up to a
>rate of 1 Mbps per second" via Google, so unless USB 1.0 is a limitation,
>I'll just get the cheapest adapter Fry's or MicroCenter sells. You helped
>me get "MEdiaNetUnlimited" working as my internet modem a few months ago
>(thanks again), so I think my phone's speed is set correctly.
>
>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Bluetooth (any version) to USB (any version) won't limit your Internet
>> speed
>> *if* you set the port speed high enough. See the FAQ below.

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Higher port speed *will* make a difference.

In <X2A_f.231$Jk2.152@fed1read03> on Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:25:13 -0700, "P
Hoberg" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I doubt if I'll actually get better than the 115K or so over MediaNet via
>USB cable or bluetooth connecting my laptop to my V551. It's slow, but
>acceptable for my limited purposes.
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In alt.cellular.cingular P Hoberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Status" says 230K when using the cable, 115K when using bluetooth.
>>> Browsing seems to be the same speed when using either. Slow but not
>>> unusable.
>>
>> That is the "connection" between the PC and the phone, not between the
>> phone and the network. It is adjustable in the properties for the modem
>> on
>> the PC. It should be at 230400 for both, so that it is faster than the
>> network.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Apr 2006
15:37:33 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:

>P Hoberg wrote:
>> I use "news.west.cox.net" when I'm using my Cox cable modem. It doesn't
>> work when I'm using MediaNet. Do you have any idea what I could use
>> successfully to get to this (Motorola) and similar newsgroups with MediaNet?
>
>To prevent spaming and other issues, lot of ISPs only allow access to
>their new group server via their own gateway.
>
>For example, if you are an Earthlink account user and try to use their
>news server while using someone's SBC dialup account to connect to the
>internet, it may not let you authenticate.
>
>I don't recall if I could use my Eathlink news server while using my
>Sprint phone as a modem or if I had to use my SBC news server as I'm
>doing now with my Cingular phone.
>
>You'll need to use an open news server, but since I don't have this
>problem I don't know of any off the top of my head. I know that some
>other users there have the answer.
>
>You might try to Google for umm..."open news servers".

Or simply use Google Groups.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:59:07 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] wrote:

>In alt.cellular.motorola P Hoberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I doubt if I'll actually get better than the 115K or so over MediaNet via
>> USB cable or bluetooth connecting my laptop to my V551. It's slow, but
>> acceptable for my limited purposes.
>
>The ~100Kbps ftp throughput that I get with my v551 Bluetooth in a strong
>EDGE area might make me want a little more headroom, but you're right.
>There is some overhead, so I thought 230400 was a nice number.

Higher port speed also reduces latency.

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In alt.cellular.cingular John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I recommend Bluetooth 1.1 over 1.0 because it coexists better with Wi-Fi and
> is more reliable.

Is it BT 1.2 that makes for a good audio connection to a PC?

If you have a phone, a PC and a Bluetooth headset, you might as well
endeavor to use the headset with the PC, and not just the phone.

A coworker had a Jabra BT200 headset for his blackberry, added the DLink
DBT-120 for his PC, purely because he knew I had one and it worked, and was
able to use both Skype and Cisco Softphone on his PC with the BT headset.

The sound was kind of flat compared to my Plantronics USB headset, but I
think that might be a good thing, using less bandwidth, and perfectly
intelligible.

I noticed that IOGear has a BT headset for $19.99
http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=p...&Item=GBE201W7
http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=s...&cat=Bluetooth
That one is BT 1.1. I might get it just because $20 is my price point for
stuff I don't need ;-)

And a BT adapter http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=product&Item=GBU301
for $9.95. Or a starter kit with two for $29.95 ;-)

The http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=product&Item=GBE211 headset is BT
1.2, but it isn't for sale in the discount outlet. $39 at newegg.

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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:47:54 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] wrote:

>In alt.cellular.cingular John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I recommend Bluetooth 1.1 over 1.0 because it coexists better with Wi-Fi and
>> is more reliable.
>
>Is it BT 1.2 that makes for a good audio connection to a PC?

Yes. In addition, I goofed -- what I should have written is:

I recommend Bluetooth 1.2 over 1.0-1.1 because it coexists better with
Wi-Fi and is more reliable.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth>

>If you have a phone, a PC and a Bluetooth headset, you might as well
>endeavor to use the headset with the PC, and not just the phone.
>
>A coworker had a Jabra BT200 headset for his blackberry, added the DLink
>DBT-120 for his PC, purely because he knew I had one and it worked, and was
>able to use both Skype and Cisco Softphone on his PC with the BT headset.
>
>The sound was kind of flat compared to my Plantronics USB headset, but I
>think that might be a good thing, using less bandwidth, and perfectly
>intelligible.
>
>I noticed that IOGear has a BT headset for $19.99
>http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=p...&Item=GBE201W7
>http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=s...&cat=Bluetooth
>That one is BT 1.1. I might get it just because $20 is my price point for
>stuff I don't need ;-)
>
>And a BT adapter http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=product&Item=GBU301
>for $9.95. Or a starter kit with two for $29.95 ;-)
>
>The http://www.iogear.com/main.php?loc=product&Item=GBE211 headset is BT
>1.2, but it isn't for sale in the discount outlet. $39 at newegg.

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John,
It's set to 115,200. Do I really need to set it higher?
TIA,
Paul

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> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:59:07 +0000 (UTC),
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>In alt.cellular.motorola P Hoberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I doubt if I'll actually get better than the 115K or so over MediaNet
>>> via
>>> USB cable or bluetooth connecting my laptop to my V551. It's slow, but
>>> acceptable for my limited purposes.
>>
>>The ~100Kbps ftp throughput that I get with my v551 Bluetooth in a strong
>>EDGE area might make me want a little more headroom, but you're right.
>>There is some overhead, so I thought 230400 was a nice number.
>
> Higher port speed also reduces latency.
>
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> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

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Yes. At least 230,000. See the FAQ below.

In <g9Z_f.291$Jk2.10@fed1read03> on Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:58:37 -0700, "P
Hoberg" <[email protected]> wrote:

>It's set to 115,200. Do I really need to set it higher?

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>
>> In <[email protected]> on Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:59:07 +0000 (UTC),
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>In alt.cellular.motorola P Hoberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I doubt if I'll actually get better than the 115K or so over MediaNet
>>>> via
>>>> USB cable or bluetooth connecting my laptop to my V551. It's slow, but
>>>> acceptable for my limited purposes.
>>>
>>>The ~100Kbps ftp throughput that I get with my v551 Bluetooth in a strong
>>>EDGE area might make me want a little more headroom, but you're right.
>>>There is some overhead, so I thought 230400 was a nice number.
>>
>> Higher port speed also reduces latency.

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