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SMS wrote:

> It's typical Navas to make statements like that when he has no
> corroboration.

Every time I see Navas deeming incontrovertible evidence as not
incontrovertible, I keep thinking of a certain information minister's
famous quote - "There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!" - as
the unmistakable rumble of army tanks could be heard in the background.

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com



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Ann wrote:
> I'm not sure which would be worse no signal or dropping calls. I have both
> cingular (personal) and verizon (work) phones and I would love to only have
> Cingular. VERIZON STINKS ... dropped calls all of the time and mediocre
> coverage in my area.
>
> "IMHO IIRC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:4Nudg.23798$ZW3.22442@dukeread04...
>> Just now on the Tonight Show, Jay Leno was asking about the audience
>> voting for the American Idol.
>> Then he asked how many people didn't vote because they could not get a
>> signal on Cingular.

Our personal experience is quite different. I have two phones. My
work phone is from Cingular while my personal phone is from Verizon.
Although both of them work OK around home, I also travel a bit
-- both for work and for pleasure. My experiences is that Verzion
availability and signal quality is consistently as good or in most
cases, better every place I've been. In no single case has it been
the other way around.

Lee Florack wrote:
> Ann wrote:
>> I'm not sure which would be worse no signal or dropping calls. I have
>> both cingular (personal) and verizon (work) phones and I would love to
>> only have Cingular. VERIZON STINKS ... dropped calls all of the time
>> and mediocre coverage in my area.
>>
>> "IMHO IIRC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:4Nudg.23798$ZW3.22442@dukeread04...
>>> Just now on the Tonight Show, Jay Leno was asking about the audience
>>> voting for the American Idol.
>>> Then he asked how many people didn't vote because they could not get
>>> a signal on Cingular.
>
> Our personal experience is quite different. I have two phones. My work
> phone is from Cingular while my personal phone is from Verizon.
> Although both of them work OK around home, I also travel a bit -- both
> for work and for pleasure. My experiences is that Verzion availability
> and signal quality is consistently as good or in most cases, better
> every place I've been. In no single case has it been the other way around.

I've found that in areas where Verizon is 1900 Mhz, and Cingular is 800
Mhz, that Cingular's digital coverage is better. I've roamed onto AMPS
in far western Broward County (out on 84 near where Andytown used to be).

Isaiah Beard wrote:
> ....................................I keep thinking of a certain information minister's
> famous quote - "There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!" - as
> the unmistakable rumble of army tanks could be heard in the background.

At least he had a sense of humor! LOL

On Wed, 31 May 2006 06:45:57 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Steve Sobol wrote:
>
>> Yes, Verizon still operates AMPS in the Victor Valley too, but they
>> don't maintain it (that was my point, that they weren't maintaining too
>> much capacity even back when I quit them; I suspect they only still had
>> it bcause they have the CalTrans call box contract and it helps ensure
>> those call boxes can complete calls).
>
>The keep AMPS because they have to. They've all gone to minimum
>capacity. I doubt if it costs them much to keep the network going.

It's actually significant, both in terms of network maintenance and in
terms of poor spectrum utilization.

>I read something on the CalTrans web site about the conversion plan for
>the call boxes from AMPS to Digital, as well as the reduction in the
>number of call boxes due to non-use. GM chose CDMA for On-Star, due to
>the greater range of CDMA).

It chose CDMA because that was the best deal.

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On Wed, 31 May 2006 06:40:10 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>The problem is that the range of a CDMA tower (practically speaking
>around 62km) is less than the range of an AMPS tower (depends on the
>height, but typically around 80km), and the range of a GSM tower (35km)
>is _much_ less than an AMPS tower. So it isn't just converting towers,
>it's adding a lot more towers. While 80km versus 62km doesn't seem like
>much, moving towers around isn't practical, so if you're looking at a
>linear highway in a flat area, you're still doubling the number of
>towers for CDMA, and tripling the number for GSM. CDMA does have a big
>advantage in this regard.

In fact both GSM and CDMA are capable of 80 km range and better.

>Australia choose CDMA for the boonies, and GSM for European
>compatibility in urban areas. The U.S. will probably end up with CDMA in
>rural areas, and GSM and CDMA in urban areas. GSM was well-suited for
>densely populated European countries, but is less practical in countries
>where there are large unpopulated areas that still need coverage.

Wrong again. Extended range GSM can go up to 120 km; e.g.,
<http://www.motorola.com/content.jsp?globalObjectId=2050-8217-8223>
<http://www.mobilecomms-technology.com/projects/gsm_morocco/>

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