TDMA continued service

"DecaturTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Jeremy wrote:
>> Cingular SUCKS, big time!
>
> Sprint sucks when you're at the edge of cell coverage and cell-breathing
> causes unpredictable coverage.

They work fine for me. Much better than I ever got once Cingular took over
the ATTWS towers. I pity those that are locked in to Cingular because of
coverage issues. But as Sprint continues to build out its network, those
people, too, can give Cingular the boot and come on over to a carrier that
does not treat their customers as though they owned them.

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In article <[email protected]>
DecaturTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> John Navas wrote:
> > I'm beginning to wonder if Sprint is paying him some sort of commission
> > to troll here.
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if Cingular is paying him (Navas) some sort of
> commission to troll here.

Naah, he's a natural born troll.


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Jeremy wrote:
> "DecaturTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Jeremy wrote:
>>> Cingular SUCKS, big time!
>> Sprint sucks when you're at the edge of cell coverage and cell-breathing
>> causes unpredictable coverage.
>
> They work fine for me.

For lot of people, it doesn't. Glad that you found a carrier that works
for you.

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:49:48 GMT, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>"DecaturTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Jeremy wrote:
>>> Cingular SUCKS, big time!
>>
>> Sprint sucks when you're at the edge of cell coverage and cell-breathing
>> causes unpredictable coverage.
>
>They work fine for me. Much better than I ever got once Cingular took over
>the ATTWS towers.

Only because you weren't willing to upgrade. As a result, you're
comparing apples to oranges.

>I pity those that are locked in to Cingular because of
>coverage issues.

The vast majority on GSM have no such coverage issues.

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"Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "DecaturTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Jeremy wrote:
>>> Cingular SUCKS, big time!
>>
>> Sprint sucks when you're at the edge of cell coverage and cell-breathing
>> causes unpredictable coverage.
>
> They work fine for me. Much better than I ever got once Cingular took
> over the ATTWS towers. I pity those that are locked in to Cingular
> because of coverage issues. But as Sprint continues to build out its
> network, those people, too, can give Cingular the boot and come on over to
> a carrier that does not treat their customers as though they owned them.
>
>
SPAM
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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> The vast majority on GSM have no such coverage issues.
>

According to who?

Scott wrote:

> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>>The vast majority on GSM have no such coverage issues.
>
> According to who?


When will Cingular start to apply heavy pressrue to its own TDMA
non-ATTWS customers to get off ?

"Joe Versaggi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> When will Cingular start to apply heavy pressrue to its own TDMA non-ATTWS
> customers to get off ?
>

Does Cingular even have any of their own TDMA customers?

Jeremy wrote:
> Does Cingular even have any of their own TDMA customers?

Considering how many Nokia 51xx phones (circa late '90s) I see on belts
out here, sure they do.

Jeremy wrote:
> "Joe Versaggi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>>When will Cingular start to apply heavy pressrue to its own TDMA non-ATTWS
>>customers to get off ?
>>
>
> Does Cingular even have any of their own TDMA customers?
>

Yes, and I am one of them, perfectly happy with it and my Nokia 2260
brick phone. But I will switch to Sprint during the summer before $29.99
contracts and candy bar phones vanish.

TDMA makes 10% of their calls, who are 20% of their customers. Don't
know if that includes ex-AT&TWS.

GSM sucks. My parents are lucky to get 1 bar in their house now for 2
years. I don't care what they have in Europe and Asia.

John Navas wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:48:02 -0400, Isaiah Beard
> <[email protected]> wrote in
> <[email protected]>:
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> Sprint gave me 3 free phones and charged not one cent to activate them.
>>>> ...
>>> But did make you sign a term agreement. Imagine that.
>> Of course they did! With Sprint, he was a new customer. Better to be
>> treated like a new customer when you ARE a new customer as Sprint is
>> doing, than to be a loyal customer and get kicked to the curb as
>> Cingular did.
>
> 1. That's not a meaningful distinction.

Evidently, the facts are never meaningful to you.

> 2. That's not what Cingular did.


See what I mean?


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John Navas wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:45:59 -0400, Isaiah Beard
> <[email protected]> wrote in
> <[email protected]>:
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:26:09 GMT, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> <Bihig.41$db5.28@trnddc03>:
>>>
>>>> I don't miss Cingular one bit. Not one bit . . .
>>> Then why do you keep hanging around?
>> For the same reason you regularly cross-post in alt.cellular.verizon and
>> alt.cellular.sprintpcs: because he can.
>
> In fact I don't read either group, and I rarely cross-post to them,

Allow me to beat you over the head yet again with your own mantra:
"google is your friend."

http://tinyurl.com/ejkaz

http://tinyurl.com/jmcsw

I wouldn't exactly call 56 authored, off-topic posts in the past 6
months alone "rarely."


> except when following up to threads already cross-posted. By
> comparison, Jeremy clearly hangs on here.

http://tinyurl.com/jzoh3

Jeremy has 40 authored (and usually on-topic) posts in
alt.cellular.cingular in the same period that you cross-posted 40% more
posts into a.c.v and a.c.spcs. So, by your own definition, Jeremy
"rarely" posts here.

> In other words, no comparison.

Indeed; the numerical analysis shows that you're far more of a nuisance
than you accuse Jeremy of being.



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DecaturTxCowboy wrote:
> Jeremy wrote:
>> "DecaturTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Jeremy wrote:
>>>> Cingular SUCKS, big time!
>>> Sprint sucks when you're at the edge of cell coverage and
>>> cell-breathing causes unpredictable coverage.
>>
>> They work fine for me.
>
> For lot of people, it doesn't.

For a lot of people, neither does Cingular.


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Isaiah Beard wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Sprint gave me 3 free phones and charged not one cent to activate
>>> them. ...
>>
>> But did make you sign a term agreement. Imagine that.
>
> Of course they did! With Sprint, he was a new customer.

This is really the key point. If Cingular wants to keep those remaining
TDMA customers, then they should not be treating them as "new"
customers. The actual cost to them of a GSM phone is low enough that
they could give a comparably featured GSM phone to their remaining TDMA
users, without requiring a new contract, or at least make it a very
short contract, i.e. 6 months.

Unfortunately, the bigger issue is that the TDMA holdouts are holding
out because the monthly rate will go up significantly if they switch to
GSM, and Cingular won't budge on the rates.

This may be the time for Sprint, T-Mobile, or Verizon to do a marketing
push to acquire these unwanted TDMA customers from Cingular.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Unfortunately, the bigger issue is that the TDMA holdouts are holding
> out because the monthly rate will go up significantly if they switch to
> GSM, and Cingular won't budge on the rates.
>
>
Define "significantly". I just looked at the current rates and they
don't look much different than the old TDMA rates--Cingular's that is.
If ATTWS's TDMA rates were "significantly" lower guess we know WHY they
had to be bailed out.

Once the ATTWS contracts expire Cingular is not obgligated to continue
offering them rates lower than they offer their other customers. In
fact, show me where it says that they are obgligated to allow ANY
customer to continue month to month AT ALL.

Everyone seems to associate contracts to subsidized phones but that is
NOT their original purpose which is to establish an agreement between
two entities, Cingular and the customer, where Cingular agrees to
provide a service and the customer agrees to pay for that service.
Without going and digging mine out I believe there is a clause that
allows the agreement to continue after the ending date PROVIDING that
BOTH parties AGREE to continue it. Cingular has the same right to
desolve the agreement at that point as the customer. And they do owe it
to their stockholders to terminate AS SOON AS POSSIBLE any deal that is
not in the best interest of the company.

EVERY TDMA user, whether original Cingular or ATTWS, ***WILL***
eventually have to either go to a new GSM rate plan with a new contract
OR leave. It's that simple. TDMA in this country is GOING away--and at a
very fast rate. Even rural central Texas, that I thought would take
years, is pretty much converted. And not to CDMA either--with the
exception of the areas Altel has (including Western Wireless and SOME
Cellular One areas but not Dobsen) the small carriers copied Cingular's
example and went the TDMA-to-GSM route.
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