New TDMA charge

John,

You have so many posts here and respond to most inquiries with informative
and useful information. Do you constantly monitor the forum? Do you have
your own cell phone store that sells Cingular service, or are you employed
directly by Cingular to ensure that folks get good information regarding
Cingular phone and service? Inquiring minds want to know.

Regards,

-mij

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Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
> John,
>
> You have so many posts here and respond to most inquiries with informative
> and useful information. Do you constantly monitor the forum? Do you have
> your own cell phone store that sells Cingular service, or are you employed
> directly by Cingular to ensure that folks get good information regarding
> Cingular phone and service? Inquiring minds want to know.
>

Mij ... do you consider this a constructive approach ... to whatever it is
that you are approaching?

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
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It seems that John dedicates a very significant amount of time to replying
to questions and posting information in this newsgroup. I am trying to
understand how he does this. Maybe he is independently wealthy, doesn't have
a day job, or is retired and this newsgoup is a hobby.


"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> You have so many posts here and respond to most inquiries with
>> informative
>> and useful information. Do you constantly monitor the forum? Do you have
>> your own cell phone store that sells Cingular service, or are you
>> employed
>> directly by Cingular to ensure that folks get good information regarding
>> Cingular phone and service? Inquiring minds want to know.
>>
>
> Mij ... do you consider this a constructive approach ... to whatever it is
> that you are approaching?
>
> --
> Thomas T. Veldhouse
> Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
>
>

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:22:56 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
wrote in <4qOxg.16629$Nv.13091@fed1read10>:

>You have so many posts here and respond to most inquiries with informative
>and useful information. Do you constantly monitor the forum? Do you have
>your own cell phone store that sells Cingular service, or are you employed
>directly by Cingular to ensure that folks get good information regarding
>Cingular phone and service? Inquiring minds want to know.

I have no connection to Cingular other than as a paying customer. I've
gotten a wealth of useful information from Internet, and am
old-fashioned enough to believe in giving back. I'm self-employed with
a fairly irregular schedule, so there are times when I can post
frequently, and times when I can't.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

John,

Thanks for the clarification. Keep up the good work. :-)

mij

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:22:56 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
> wrote in <4qOxg.16629$Nv.13091@fed1read10>:
>
>>You have so many posts here and respond to most inquiries with informative
>>and useful information. Do you constantly monitor the forum? Do you have
>>your own cell phone store that sells Cingular service, or are you employed
>>directly by Cingular to ensure that folks get good information regarding
>>Cingular phone and service? Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> I have no connection to Cingular other than as a paying customer. I've
> gotten a wealth of useful information from Internet, and am
> old-fashioned enough to believe in giving back. I'm self-employed with
> a fairly irregular schedule, so there are times when I can post
> frequently, and times when I can't.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
> It seems that John dedicates a very significant amount of time to replying
> to questions and posting information in this newsgroup. I am trying to
> understand how he does this. Maybe he is independently wealthy, doesn't have
> a day job, or is retired and this newsgoup is a hobby.
>
>

Alright ... so what?

You appear to be on a blatant attempt to TROLL.

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1

John Navas wrote:

> There is actually digital coverage in most of the popular recreation
> areas.

You are not going to get a flat tire or busted radiator hose in a
"popular recreation area".

Joe Versaggi wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
>
>> There is actually digital coverage in most of the popular recreation
>> areas.
>
> You are not going to get a flat tire or busted radiator hose in a
> "popular recreation area".

In California, many of the most popular recreation areas have no digital
coverage, including ones that are not very far from the urban areas. I
can go less than ten miles from my house, into a popular county park,
and while there is CDMA at the park headquarters, there is no GSM at
all, and no digital of any kind once you get off onto the popular trails.

But it's not just _in_ the recreation area, it's on the road to them as
well. I don't expect any of the carriers to try to cover all the areas
currently covered by AMPS, with digital, it's just financially
impossible for them. OTOH, it'd be nice if they kept the AMPS turned on
in these areas, since that's all there is.

Navas lies about AMPS coverage because he shills for Cingular, and
Cingular has never had AMPS coverage in California. So he feels
obligated to say anything that will make it appear as if AMPS coverage
doesn't give you much extra in terms of rural coverage, but of course
he's lying.

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:36:21 GMT, Joe Versaggi <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas wrote:
>
>> There is actually digital coverage in most of the popular recreation
>> areas.
>
>You are not going to get a flat tire or busted radiator hose in a
>"popular recreation area".

Why not?

In any event, I have a PLB, which has far better coverage than any
mobile phone.

Arguing about which incomplete solution is better is silly.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:01:11 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Joe Versaggi wrote:
>> John Navas wrote:
>>
>>> There is actually digital coverage in most of the popular recreation
>>> areas.
>>
>> You are not going to get a flat tire or busted radiator hose in a
>> "popular recreation area".
>
>In California, many of the most popular recreation areas have no digital
>coverage, including ones that are not very far from the urban areas.

Actually they do, as I wrote.

>But it's not just _in_ the recreation area, it's on the road to them as
>well. I don't expect any of the carriers to try to cover all the areas
>currently covered by AMPS, with digital, it's just financially
>impossible for them. ...

In fact digital coverage is being expanded rapidly.

>Navas lies about AMPS coverage because he shills for Cingular, and
>Cingular has never had AMPS coverage in California. So he feels
>obligated to say anything that will make it appear as if AMPS coverage
>doesn't give you much extra in terms of rural coverage, but of course
>he's lying.

'Those who have evidence will present their evidence,
whereas those who do not have evidence will attack the man.'

--
Best regards,
John Navas

"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford

There is no Troll here, just a curiosity regarding how John finds the time
to post thousands of messages that promote Cingular and whether he is paid
to do so. If a person is paid and therefore is a shill, then I wouldn't take
any information seriously that was posted by that person. Since he is not a
shill, he has nothing to gain and therefore I would assume that he is
posting credible information based upon experience. He is definitely King of
this newsgroup.


"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It seems that John dedicates a very significant amount of time to
>> replying
>> to questions and posting information in this newsgroup. I am trying to
>> understand how he does this. Maybe he is independently wealthy, doesn't
>> have
>> a day job, or is retired and this newsgoup is a hobby.
>>
>>
>
> Alright ... so what?
>
> You appear to be on a blatant attempt to TROLL.
>
> --
> Thomas T. Veldhouse
> Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
>
>

John Navas wrote:
> 'Those who have evidence will present their evidence,
> whereas those who do not have evidence will attack the man.'


Or in your case, "those who do not have evidence" will claim their own
experience is the evidence, and everyone else's evidence as unsupported
anecdotal hearsay. That's an opinion, but documented fact.

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It seems that John dedicates a very significant amount of time to replying
>> to questions and posting information in this newsgroup. I am trying to
>> understand how he does this. Maybe he is independently wealthy, doesn't have
>> a day job, or is retired and this newsgoup is a hobby.
>>
>>
>
> Alright ... so what?
>
> You appear to be on a blatant attempt to TROLL.

My take on this is Mij is trying to corner JN into disclosing the
motivation for his agenda.

We already know his agenda includes dismissing anything he can't Google
any supporting evidence as rubbish. We also know he has to show he has a
better deal, phone, service, coverage, etc. than anyone else. You have a
problem - its not a problem in his area (if Media Whatever is down in
New York, he will point out its working in the Bay area, which is
totally meaningless information to the person having the issue). We
further know that his experiences are sufficient proof, even when it
conflicts with Googled evidence. And even further...we know he is not a
telecommunications professional, not even an armature - seeing a
cellular tech working at a cell site and having a conversation with him
does not make one an expert in the industry.

"DecaturTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>> Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> It seems that John dedicates a very significant amount of time to
>>> replying to questions and posting information in this newsgroup. I am
>>> trying to understand how he does this. Maybe he is independently
>>> wealthy, doesn't have a day job, or is retired and this newsgoup is a
>>> hobby.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Alright ... so what?
>> You appear to be on a blatant attempt to TROLL.
>
> My take on this is Mij is trying to corner JN into disclosing the
> motivation for his agenda.
>
> We already know his agenda includes dismissing anything he can't Google
> any supporting evidence as rubbish. We also know he has to show he has a
> better deal, phone, service, coverage, etc. than anyone else. You have a
> problem - its not a problem in his area (if Media Whatever is down in New
> York, he will point out its working in the Bay area, which is totally
> meaningless information to the person having the issue). We further know
> that his experiences are sufficient proof, even when it conflicts with
> Googled evidence. And even further...we know he is not a
> telecommunications professional, not even an armature - seeing a cellular
> tech working at a cell site and having a conversation with him does not
> make one an expert in the industry.

So are you a telecommunications "armature"?

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> There is actually digital coverage in most of the popular recreation
> areas.
>

This is actually nothing more than a personal opinion that can not be backed
up by any authoritative source. It borders on a lie because Novice has been
asked to back this claim up on many ocassions and refused.