New TDMA charge

Jack Zwick wrote:
> In article <M03yg.16659$Nv.10700@fed1read10>,
> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No Troll here. As I said, I just wanted to determine if he is a shill so
>> that I know if the information that he posts has any credibility. He
>> dominates this newsgroup and therefore this is information that needs to be
>> public; in fact, he should put it in the newsgroup FAQ so that folks won't
>> have to wonder.
>
> I have him filtered out, and this newsgroup is far more readable as a
> result.

Unfortunately, there isn't any news reader program that can be
configured to filter out all posts of a thread that was started by a
particular person. So while many people have filtered out Navas, there
are still some that feel compelled to respond to his misinformation, and
these posts all still show up, affecting the readability of the newsgroup.

If anyone knows of a newsreader with more extensive filtering capability
than Outlook or Thunderbird, I'd like to know about it.

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Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
> No Troll here. As I said, I just wanted to determine if he is a shill so
> that I know if the information that he posts has any credibility. He
> dominates this newsgroup and therefore this is information that needs to be
> public; in fact, he should put it in the newsgroup FAQ so that folks won't
> have to wonder.
>

I would believe you if you had asked an honest question, but your question was
100% rhetorical ... you knew full well the answer.

Just say you are sorry and kiss up ...

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
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Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <M03yg.16659$Nv.10700@fed1read10>,
> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No Troll here. As I said, I just wanted to determine if he is a shill so
>> that I know if the information that he posts has any credibility. He
>> dominates this newsgroup and therefore this is information that needs to be
>> public; in fact, he should put it in the newsgroup FAQ so that folks won't
>> have to wonder.
>
> I have him filtered out, and this newsgroup is far more readable as a
> result.

That is what the people over in Sprint PCS said of you ...

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1

Mij Adyaw wrote:
> John don't get no respect. Just like Rodney Dangerfield. :-)

But Dangerfield overdid his dead file. <snicker>

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:30:18 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Jack Zwick wrote:
>> In article <M03yg.16659$Nv.10700@fed1read10>,
>> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> No Troll here. As I said, I just wanted to determine if he is a shill so
>>> that I know if the information that he posts has any credibility. He
>>> dominates this newsgroup and therefore this is information that needs to be
>>> public; in fact, he should put it in the newsgroup FAQ so that folks won't
>>> have to wonder.
>>
>> I have him filtered out, and this newsgroup is far more readable as a
>> result.
>
>Unfortunately, there isn't any news reader program that can be
>configured to filter out all posts of a thread that was started by a
>particular person. So while many people have filtered out Navas, there
>are still some that feel compelled to respond to his misinformation, and
>these posts all still show up, affecting the readability of the newsgroup.
>
>If anyone knows of a newsreader with more extensive filtering capability
>than Outlook or Thunderbird, I'd like to know about it.

NNTP (Usenet news) proxy module for POPFile
<http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=195560> is both
effective and practical.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:03:23 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
> wrote in <LERxg.16644$Nv.12487@fed1read10>:
>
>>There is no Troll here, just a curiosity regarding how John finds the time
>>to post thousands of messages that promote Cingular and whether he is paid
>>to do so. If a person is paid and therefore is a shill, then I wouldn't
>>take
>>any information seriously that was posted by that person. Since he is not
>>a
>>shill, he has nothing to gain and therefore I would assume that he is
>>posting credible information based upon experience. He is definitely King
>>of
>>this newsgroup.
>
> More like chief bottle washer and lightning rod.
>

More like chief rumor monger and supplier of inaccurate and false
information.

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <M03yg.16659$Nv.10700@fed1read10>,
>> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> No Troll here. As I said, I just wanted to determine if he is a shill so
>>> that I know if the information that he posts has any credibility. He
>>> dominates this newsgroup and therefore this is information that needs to
>>> be
>>> public; in fact, he should put it in the newsgroup FAQ so that folks
>>> won't
>>> have to wonder.
>>
>> I have him filtered out, and this newsgroup is far more readable as a
>> result.
>
> That is what the people over in Sprint PCS said of you ...
>
> --


Touche.

Thanks.

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:12:00 -0400, "Craven Morehead"
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>John, you may add to that list, that little known Olympic sport, Javelin
>Catching.
>
>From one who has endured the wrath of the "groupies" here and other places,
>tis a noble and thankless assignment.
>
>As John Holmes was fond of saying, "keep it up".
>
>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:03:23 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
>> wrote in <LERxg.16644$Nv.12487@fed1read10>:
>>
>>>There is no Troll here, just a curiosity regarding how John finds the time
>>>to post thousands of messages that promote Cingular and whether he is paid
>>>to do so. If a person is paid and therefore is a shill, then I wouldn't
>>>take
>>>any information seriously that was posted by that person. Since he is not
>>>a
>>>shill, he has nothing to gain and therefore I would assume that he is
>>>posting credible information based upon experience. He is definitely King
>>>of
>>>this newsgroup.
>>
>> More like chief bottle washer and lightning rod.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

Like I said, John just don't get no respect. Doesn't anyone have something
good to say about him?

"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:03:23 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
>> wrote in <LERxg.16644$Nv.12487@fed1read10>:
>>
>>>There is no Troll here, just a curiosity regarding how John finds the
>>>time
>>>to post thousands of messages that promote Cingular and whether he is
>>>paid
>>>to do so. If a person is paid and therefore is a shill, then I wouldn't
>>>take
>>>any information seriously that was posted by that person. Since he is not
>>>a
>>>shill, he has nothing to gain and therefore I would assume that he is
>>>posting credible information based upon experience. He is definitely King
>>>of
>>>this newsgroup.
>>
>> More like chief bottle washer and lightning rod.
>>
>
> More like chief rumor monger and supplier of inaccurate and false
> information.
>

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:45:43 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Jeff A. Farrar wrote:
>
>> That is exactly the way it read on my bill. I looked at the bill online and
>> copied it verbatim (cut and paste). I had already planned on switching to
>> GSM within the next week so it didn't effect me. But now it looks they are
>> going to start helping speed up the process by pushing them along.
>
>As long as you're prepared to lose all that analog coverage, then go for
>it. Personally, I always advise people to change to CDMA/AMPS, so they
>can keep the analog, but in my area (Northern California) AMPS is very
>useful, where you are maybe it's different.

You personally always advise them to do that because of your personal
grudge against Cingular in particular and GSM in general. AMPS isn't of
much value to many (most?) people. Sorry, but facts are facts.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:56:19 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Jeff A. Farrar wrote:
>> Saw this note on my latest bill. Sorry if this is old news.
>>
>> "The rates for your service on Cingular's TDMA/Analog network are
>> increasing. As early as September, a TDMA/Analog network charge of $4.99
>> per line will appear on your bill each month. Alternatively, you have the
>> option to upgrade to a handset and rate plan on our new and improved GSM
>> network, the largest voice and data network in America, with the fewest
>> dropped calls of any national wireless carrier. To learn more, visit a
>> Cingular store near you."
>
>I think that Cingular is jiving you, since there are several mistakes in
>that statement. First of all, the TDMA/Analog network is larger than the
> GSM network.

It's actually quite possible that's no longer the case -- GSM has been
expanding rapidly; there's no mandate on D-AMPS (what you mistakenly
call TDMA); and there's no mandate to expand AMPS to match GSM.

>Second, they don't have the largest voice and data
>network in America (and they would have said "U.S.," not America),

Actually they do.

>and
>there is no proof that they have the fewest dropped calls.

Cingular thinks so.

>So that's
>three errors just in that one paragraph, which means that they must be
>joking.

In your personal opinion.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

In article <[email protected]>,
"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> In article <M03yg.16659$Nv.10700@fed1read10>,
> >> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> No Troll here. As I said, I just wanted to determine if he is a shill so
> >>> that I know if the information that he posts has any credibility. He
> >>> dominates this newsgroup and therefore this is information that needs to
> >>> be
> >>> public; in fact, he should put it in the newsgroup FAQ so that folks
> >>> won't
> >>> have to wonder.
> >>
> >> I have him filtered out, and this newsgroup is far more readable as a
> >> result.
> >
> > That is what some people over in Sprint PCS said of you ...

Of few of the Sprint shills did that 3 and 2 years ago when I posted
the Results of JD Power, Consumer Reports and Yankee Group surveys,
which consistantly then, and still to this day list Sprint LAST in
Customer Service. They struggled to spin the results, and finally "if
you dont like the message, attack the messenger" the sprint newsgroup,
still to this day is rife with personal attacks.

Its one thing to filter because you dont like the name calling people
descend to, its another to filter because you don't like their message,
I am always happy to be judged by any enemies I have made.

Sprint is stuck using 1900 Mhz and their CDMA phones get hot in any
conversation over a few minutes,
and repeated cycles of heating like that makes many models of their
phones (especially Sanyo and Samsung) have short life spans.

Their CSRs (with still long wait times to get to) have rigid rules of 6
minute "handle times" with upsell quotas, which makes for unhappy
experiences if you need support.

Seems like very time Sprint needs to have good results for a quarterly
SEC report, they sell some of their towers for a cash infusion.

==

I switched to Cingular 2 years ago and never regretted it for a second,
getting quality Motorola and Sony equipment AND I now have thousands of
rollover minutes banked. Calls to a CSR have NEVER experienced a long
wait time in the 2 years I've been with Cingular, and its far less of a
problem getting a call escalated if necessary. Having a SIM made my
upgrade this year from a Motorola v600 to a Sony W600i instantaneous,
it only took a request to get a FREE upgrade to a 64K SIM from Cingular
last year.
Did I mention voice quality is better with GSM than CDMA?

Cingular is not perfect as Navas might have you believe but it is heads
and shoulders above Sprint. My son in Los Angeles switched from Sprint
to Cingular and no longer has to go outdoors for a signal (just east of
Culver City) near Shakeys. He loves his V3, as well he should. Its such
a good solid phone that Motorola has now sold 50,000,000 of them. That
presents an advantage one NEVER has with any Sprint phone. One can find
myriad support on the web from users worldwide. Like complete
illustrated instructions for synching it with the bluetooth in his new
2006 Prius. His brother used similar instructions in his 2004 Prius when
he switched from Verizon (no blue tooth at the time, and messed up
billing) to Cingular. He's now awaiting a GSM Moto Q, as he wants the
enter key on the ASDFG line, not the ZXCVB line most smart phones use.

Cingular has effectively raised their prices since their merger with
ATTWS, giving fewer minutes at the price point I'm at, and ending Night
calling at 6 AM, rather than the 7 AM I have. Totally contrary to what
they promised the FCC and the FTC prior to the merger. They then said
prices wouldn't rise. Their spin now is that prices haven't risen if you
kept your 2004 plan.

Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Of few of the Sprint shills did that 3 and 2 years ago when I posted
> the Results of JD Power, Consumer Reports and Yankee Group surveys,
> which consistantly then, and still to this day list Sprint LAST in

People didn't dislike you because you posted JD Powers quotes that anybody can
find. People disliked you because you changed your ID constantly to avoid
filtering and you used sockpuppets to pretend to have somebody to support your
arguments when you had no other support. You used to use the name Phillipe
and then you created a sockpuppet called Richard who chimed in to support
Phillipe. You created him under false pretenses and, for that, you lost all
credibility and were no longer welcome.

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You personally always advise them to do that because of your personal
> grudge against Cingular in particular and GSM in general. AMPS isn't of
> much value to many (most?) people. Sorry, but facts are facts.
>

In Minnesota it is still pretty widely used. I roam onto AMPS several times a
year. I have received and made calls while roaming on AMPS. I am pretty much
an urban dweller, so I am definitely not exceptional in a state where
everybody goes up north to their cabin ... in AMPS country. The same can be
said for Wisconsin as well. I suspect it is also true for Michigan and
Montanna ... and probably several more states.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse
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In article <[email protected]>,
"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:03:23 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
> > wrote in <LERxg.16644$Nv.12487@fed1read10>:
> >
> >>There is no Troll here, just a curiosity regarding how John finds the time
> >>to post thousands of messages that promote Cingular and whether he is paid
> >>to do so. If a person is paid and therefore is a shill, then I wouldn't
> >>take
> >>any information seriously that was posted by that person. Since he is not
> >>a
> >>shill, he has nothing to gain and therefore I would assume that he is
> >>posting credible information based upon experience. He is definitely King
> >>of
> >>this newsgroup.
> >
> > More like chief bottle washer and lightning rod.
> >
>
> More like chief rumor monger and supplier of inaccurate and false
> information.

I have found Navas web site info on setting up Cingular phones for
Internet connectivity helpful.

I also remember when he posted ringtones there for a while, then argued
when others pointed out it likely was violating copyrights, he argued
strongly, but quietly pulled them 2 weeks later.