Results 1 to 15 of 42
- 08-02-2006, 09:46 PM #1Paul Hovnanian P.E.Guest
Cingular is currently 'encouraging' me to upgrade my TDMA phone to a GSM
unit. I don't have a problem with the GSM part, but I have a dual mode
TDMA + AMPS phone and currently I spend quite a bit of time in AMPS-only
territory. When I have friends at my cabin with their Cingular GSM
phones, they lose signal miles away, so I know its not just the TDMA
that's dying.
Cingular has nothing like a dual mode GSM + AMPS phone. Is there anyone
who makes such a unit?
Also, how does Cingular deal with 'unlocked' phones purchased elsewhere
and brought into their network?
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:[email protected]
------------------------------------------------------------------
Ban the bomb. Save the world for conventional warfare.
› See More: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
- 08-02-2006, 10:27 PM #2Anon E. MussGuest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:46:01 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Cingular is currently 'encouraging' me to upgrade my TDMA phone to a GSM
>unit. I don't have a problem with the GSM part, but I have a dual mode
>TDMA + AMPS phone and currently I spend quite a bit of time in AMPS-only
>territory. When I have friends at my cabin with their Cingular GSM
>phones, they lose signal miles away, so I know its not just the TDMA
>that's dying.
>
>Cingular has nothing like a dual mode GSM + AMPS phone. Is there anyone
>who makes such a unit?
Nokia 6340(i) and Sony Ericcson T62u.
See <http://tinyurl.com/fdhxw>.
The SE unit is a piece of crap IMHO while the 6340i, while quite
outdated, is a very functional phone.
About the only place you can find these is EG^HBay and you know what a
crap shoot EG^HBay is.
>Also, how does Cingular deal with 'unlocked' phones purchased elsewhere
>and brought into their network?
Not a problem.
- 08-02-2006, 10:48 PM #3SMSGuest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> Cingular is currently 'encouraging' me to upgrade my TDMA phone to a GSM
> unit. I don't have a problem with the GSM part, but I have a dual mode
> TDMA + AMPS phone and currently I spend quite a bit of time in AMPS-only
> territory. When I have friends at my cabin with their Cingular GSM
> phones, they lose signal miles away, so I know its not just the TDMA
> that's dying.
>
> Cingular has nothing like a dual mode GSM + AMPS phone. Is there anyone
> who makes such a unit?
No such animal anymore. There used to be a couple of models like that.
You need to change carriers to a carrier that still supports AMPS if you
want coverage in that type of place. There is really no down side to
switching from TDMA+AMPS to CDMA+AMPS. It's not like you're giving up
international roaming with that type of switch.
- 08-03-2006, 03:43 AM #4Jack ZwickGuest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
In article <[email protected]>,
SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> No such animal anymore. There used to be a couple of models like that.
>
> You need to change carriers to a carrier that still supports AMPS if you
> want coverage in that type of place. There is really no down side to
> switching from TDMA+AMPS to CDMA+AMPS. It's not like you're giving up
> international roaming with that type of switch.
You're going from poor customer service to abysmal customer service if
one switches to Sprint. You're going from 850 Mhz phones that usually
will work indoors, to 1900 MHz phones that often won't.
- 08-03-2006, 03:59 AM #5SMSGuest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
Anon E. Muss wrote:
> Not a problem.
They may not be willing to allow you to use the AMPS portion of their
network, or they may decide that any phone that supports TDMA is
something that they don't want to deal with.
- 08-03-2006, 02:21 PM #6Paul Hovnanian P.E.Guest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
SMS wrote:
>
> Anon E. Muss wrote:
>
> > Not a problem.
>
> They may not be willing to allow you to use the AMPS portion of their
> network, or they may decide that any phone that supports TDMA is
> something that they don't want to deal with.
Not TDMA (I already have a dual TDMA+AMPS phone). I want a GSM+AMPS
phone.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:[email protected]
------------------------------------------------------------------
There are only 10 kinds of people in this world,
those who understand binary and those who don't.
- 08-03-2006, 02:26 PM #7Paul Hovnanian P.E.Guest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
SMS wrote:
>
> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> > Cingular is currently 'encouraging' me to upgrade my TDMA phone to a GSM
> > unit. I don't have a problem with the GSM part, but I have a dual mode
> > TDMA + AMPS phone and currently I spend quite a bit of time in AMPS-only
> > territory. When I have friends at my cabin with their Cingular GSM
> > phones, they lose signal miles away, so I know its not just the TDMA
> > that's dying.
> >
> > Cingular has nothing like a dual mode GSM + AMPS phone. Is there anyone
> > who makes such a unit?
>
> No such animal anymore. There used to be a couple of models like that.
>
> You need to change carriers to a carrier that still supports AMPS if you
> want coverage in that type of place. There is really no down side to
> switching from TDMA+AMPS to CDMA+AMPS. It's not like you're giving up
> international roaming with that type of switch.
Cingular still supports AMPS. Its all they've got for their rural area
coverage. The problem is that to get AMPS out in the country, you've got
to have a TDMA+AMPS phone and they are phasing out TDMA. Their GSM
phones are GSM only.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:[email protected]
------------------------------------------------------------------
I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky
- 08-03-2006, 07:32 PM #8John NavasGuest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:21:56 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>SMS wrote:
>>
>> Anon E. Muss wrote:
>>
>> > Not a problem.
>>
>> They may not be willing to allow you to use the AMPS portion of their
>> network, or they may decide that any phone that supports TDMA is
>> something that they don't want to deal with.
>
>Not TDMA (I already have a dual TDMA+AMPS phone). I want a GSM+AMPS
>phone.
<http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sony-Ericsson-T62u-phone-p_407.html>
<http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Nokia-6340i-phone-p_447.html>
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
- 08-03-2006, 07:45 PM #9John NavasGuest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:26:35 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>Cingular still supports AMPS. Its all they've got for their rural area
>coverage. The problem is that to get AMPS out in the country, you've got
>to have a TDMA+AMPS phone and they are phasing out TDMA. Their GSM
>phones are GSM only.
GAIT phones are still available on eBay, for cheap.
<http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=nokia+6340i>
<http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=ericsson+t62u>
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
- 08-03-2006, 09:21 PM #10Paul Hovnanian P.E.Guest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
John Navas wrote:
>
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:21:56 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
> <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
> >SMS wrote:
> >>
> >> Anon E. Muss wrote:
> >>
> >> > Not a problem.
> >>
> >> They may not be willing to allow you to use the AMPS portion of their
> >> network, or they may decide that any phone that supports TDMA is
> >> something that they don't want to deal with.
> >
> >Not TDMA (I already have a dual TDMA+AMPS phone). I want a GSM+AMPS
> >phone.
>
> <http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sony-Ericsson-T62u-phone-p_407.html>
> <http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Nokia-6340i-phone-p_447.html>
Thanks. I'm looking into that Nokia (a tri-band phone actually
GSM+TDMA+AMPS).
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:[email protected]
------------------------------------------------------------------
E-mail returned to sender -- insufficient voltage.
- 08-03-2006, 09:35 PM #11SteveGuest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:21:56 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
>><[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>>
>>
>>>SMS wrote:
>>>
>>>>Anon E. Muss wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Not a problem.
>>>>
>>>>They may not be willing to allow you to use the AMPS portion of their
>>>>network, or they may decide that any phone that supports TDMA is
>>>>something that they don't want to deal with.
>>>
>>>Not TDMA (I already have a dual TDMA+AMPS phone). I want a GSM+AMPS
>>>phone.
>>
>><http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sony-Ericsson-T62u-phone-p_407.html>
>><http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Nokia-6340i-phone-p_447.html>
>
>
> Thanks. I'm looking into that Nokia (a tri-band phone actually
> GSM+TDMA+AMPS).
>
I've gaot a couple of them in my garage I'll be happy to sell to you.
Perhaps we can arrange an auction on ebay.
STeve
- 08-03-2006, 11:12 PM #12John NavasGuest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:21:43 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>John Navas wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:21:56 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
>> <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>>
>> >SMS wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Anon E. Muss wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Not a problem.
>> >>
>> >> They may not be willing to allow you to use the AMPS portion of their
>> >> network, or they may decide that any phone that supports TDMA is
>> >> something that they don't want to deal with.
>> >
>> >Not TDMA (I already have a dual TDMA+AMPS phone). I want a GSM+AMPS
>> >phone.
>>
>> <http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sony-Ericsson-T62u-phone-p_407.html>
>> <http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Nokia-6340i-phone-p_447.html>
>
>Thanks. I'm looking into that Nokia (a tri-band phone actually
>GSM+TDMA+AMPS).
Actually:
* Tri mode (AMPS, D-AMPS, GSM)
* Dual band (800/850, 1900)
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
- 08-03-2006, 11:31 PM #13WindsorFox[SS]Guest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>> Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
>>> Cingular is currently 'encouraging' me to upgrade my TDMA phone to a GSM
>>> unit. I don't have a problem with the GSM part, but I have a dual mode
>>> TDMA + AMPS phone and currently I spend quite a bit of time in AMPS-only
>>> territory. When I have friends at my cabin with their Cingular GSM
>>> phones, they lose signal miles away, so I know its not just the TDMA
>>> that's dying.
>>>
>>> Cingular has nothing like a dual mode GSM + AMPS phone. Is there anyone
>>> who makes such a unit?
>> No such animal anymore. There used to be a couple of models like that.
>>
>> You need to change carriers to a carrier that still supports AMPS if you
>> want coverage in that type of place. There is really no down side to
>> switching from TDMA+AMPS to CDMA+AMPS. It's not like you're giving up
>> international roaming with that type of switch.
>
> Cingular still supports AMPS. Its all they've got for their rural area
> coverage. The problem is that to get AMPS out in the country, you've got
> to have a TDMA+AMPS phone and they are phasing out TDMA. Their GSM
> phones are GSM only.
>
Where I am the GSM service works everywhere the old analogue service
worked. That's the only reason as many people use Cingular here as they do.
--
I used to have abs. Now, I've just got ab.
One big ol' Ab. - BigSkiff www.titanspot.com
Pyongyang sounds more like the sound effect an ACME catapult makes
as it goes off at precisely the wrong moment for Wile E. Coyote. -
Cadbury Moose
- 08-03-2006, 11:32 PM #14WindsorFox[SS]Guest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
John Navas wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:26:35 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
> <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
>> Cingular still supports AMPS. Its all they've got for their rural area
>> coverage. The problem is that to get AMPS out in the country, you've got
>> to have a TDMA+AMPS phone and they are phasing out TDMA. Their GSM
>> phones are GSM only.
>
> GAIT phones are still available on eBay, for cheap.
> <http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=nokia+6340i>
> <http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=ericsson+t62u>
Cingular will not newly activate a GAIT phone here.
--
I used to have abs. Now, I've just got ab.
One big ol' Ab. - BigSkiff www.titanspot.com
Pyongyang sounds more like the sound effect an ACME catapult makes
as it goes off at precisely the wrong moment for Wile E. Coyote. -
Cadbury Moose
- 08-03-2006, 11:33 PM #15John NavasGuest
Re: Dual Mode GSM + AMPS Phones?
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:32:07 -0500, "WindsorFox[SS]"
<[email protected]> wrote in
<rZAAg.105645$IZ2.98683@dukeread07>:
>John Navas wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:26:35 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
>> <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> Cingular still supports AMPS. Its all they've got for their rural area
>>> coverage. The problem is that to get AMPS out in the country, you've got
>>> to have a TDMA+AMPS phone and they are phasing out TDMA. Their GSM
>>> phones are GSM only.
>>
>> GAIT phones are still available on eBay, for cheap.
>> <http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=nokia+6340i>
>> <http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=ericsson+t62u>
>
> Cingular will not newly activate a GAIT phone here.
I know of someone that got the GAIT feature not so long ago, by calling
Customer Care and being very persistent, but can't say for sure if
that's still possible or not.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Similar Threads
- Apple (iPhone)
- alt.cellular.verizon
- Sprint PCS
Aws gpu
in Chit Chat