Filed for divorce with Cingular today

Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
> Zwick used to hangout in alt.cellular.sprintpcs. He has a grudge against
> Sprint because they cancelled him for not paying his bill. Google the
> alt.cellular.sprintpcs newsgroup and read all of his negative posts against
> Sprint if you don't believe me.
>

He used the name Phillipe and Richard and over 100 other aliases to avoid
filtering. It won't be a simple google search by any means.

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Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <VHRBg.695$0F5.313@fed1read04>,
> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Zwick used to hangout in alt.cellular.sprintpcs. He has a grudge against
>> Sprint because they cancelled him for not paying his bill. Google the
>> alt.cellular.sprintpcs newsgroup and read all of his negative posts against
>> Sprint if you don't believe me.
>
> I switched cause I got tired of:
>
> Biodegradable phones, and myriad dropped calls and abysmal CSRs.
>
> I always paid EVERY bill 3 weeks early, and still do.

A good accountant or financial adviser will tell you to pay any bill [that is
not accumulating interest over time] as close to the due date as possible.
Three weeks is a good way for them to have the money you pay them for the
entire year for an extra three weeks. So, say $1200 doing work for them for
three weeks for free. You should be holding that money and earning interest
or other ROI.

> And as always I know I'm spot on (Sprint is the pits) when people have
> to resort to fallacious personal attacks.
>
> Just read JD Power, Consumer Reports, or Yankee Group surveys for the
> fact that Sprint for years rates last in Customer Service.

Customer Service isn't the same as network reliability or coverage.

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Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <VHRBg.695$0F5.313@fed1read04>,
>> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Zwick used to hangout in alt.cellular.sprintpcs. He has a grudge against
>>> Sprint because they cancelled him for not paying his bill. Google the
>>> alt.cellular.sprintpcs newsgroup and read all of his negative posts
>>> against
>>> Sprint if you don't believe me.
>>
>> I switched cause I got tired of:
>>
>> Biodegradable phones, and myriad dropped calls and abysmal CSRs.
>>
>> I always paid EVERY bill 3 weeks early, and still do.
>>
>> And as always I know I'm spot on (Sprint is the pits) when people have
>> to resort to fallacious personal attacks.
>>
>> Just read JD Power, Consumer Reports, or Yankee Group surveys for the
>> fact that Sprint for years rates last in Customer Service.
>
> Interesting- I've always gone with a carrier for coverage and price. Good
> coverage and lousy customer service allows me to make a call. Poor coverage
> and great customer service does not.

I now chose both by using Verizon Wireless ;-) Traded some features for
others and I couldn't be happier [unless I got it for cheaper].

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Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Joe Versaggi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Jack Zwick wrote:
>> >
>> > Will you come back with full details on your Sprint dropped calls, and
>> > the inability to get a signal indoors?
>>
>> No because neither happens, and I have it on Sprint-only.
>> Do you think I am fool enough not to have sufficiently tested Sprint on
>> both incoming and outgoing calls in severeal locales before I dropped
>> Cingular ? That's one reason I didn't bother with LPN so I can rollback
>> if need be without a hassle. I work in a steel and glass office building
>> and it works fine 40 feet in from a window. The GSM people have to run
>> to a window or outside.
>
> Just wait. Those Sprint phones run on 1900 MHz, which is not healthy for
> living circuits.

Absolute bull****. Where do you get that crud anyway?

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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:37:15 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I always paid EVERY bill 3 weeks early, and still do.
>
>A good accountant or financial adviser will tell you to pay any bill [that is
>not accumulating interest over time] as close to the due date as possible.
>Three weeks is a good way for them to have the money you pay them for the
>entire year for an extra three weeks. So, say $1200 doing work for them for
>three weeks for free. You should be holding that money and earning interest
>or other ROI.

Paying it early can also lead to confusion and errors. I personally use
online banking to automatically pay bills just a few days before then
are due.

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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:40:37 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article
>> <[email protected]>,
>> Joe Versaggi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Jack Zwick wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Will you come back with full details on your Sprint dropped calls, and
>>> > the inability to get a signal indoors?
>>>
>>> No because neither happens, and I have it on Sprint-only.
>>> Do you think I am fool enough not to have sufficiently tested Sprint on
>>> both incoming and outgoing calls in severeal locales before I dropped
>>> Cingular ? That's one reason I didn't bother with LPN so I can rollback
>>> if need be without a hassle. I work in a steel and glass office building
>>> and it works fine 40 feet in from a window. The GSM people have to run
>>> to a window or outside.
>>
>> Just wait. Those Sprint phones run on 1900 MHz, which is not healthy for
>> living circuits.
>
>Absolute bull****. Where do you get that crud anyway?

No kidding. LOL

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Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> GSM has range comparable to CDMA2000, and has become the leading
>> technology in the USA, rapidly gaining share over the past few years.
>
> You can't be the leading technology with fewer users. GSM has always and
> continues to have fewer users in the US than CDMA.
>

John likes to mix context in order to prove a point. GSM is leading
worldwide. In the USA it is trailing and has always trailed. His growth
facts are based upon transient data heavily influenced by protocol migration
on the same carrier, but he uses them anyway. The dicussion in this thread
has been 100% about the USA, and yet he throughs in a comment that, while
technically true, is only true for the entire planet and not for the United
States ... which as I just said, is the context of this discussion.

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SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> Scott wrote:
>> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> GSM has range comparable to CDMA2000, and has become the leading
>>> technology in the USA, rapidly gaining share over the past few years.
>>
>> You can't be the leading technology with fewer users. GSM has always and
>> continues to have fewer users in the US than CDMA.
>
> LOL, I'd love to know by what criteria John thinks GSM is leading. They
> have far fewer users in the U.S., and they have been losing market share
> to CDMA for a very long time.

Everyone in this thread knows the context of the conversation is the United
States, but his statement clearly alludes to the entire world's marketshare,
which is out of context.

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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:50:39 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:

>SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Scott wrote:
>>> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> GSM has range comparable to CDMA2000, and has become the leading
>>>> technology in the USA, rapidly gaining share over the past few years.
>>>
>>> You can't be the leading technology with fewer users. GSM has always and
>>> continues to have fewer users in the US than CDMA.
>>
>> LOL, I'd love to know by what criteria John thinks GSM is leading. They
>> have far fewer users in the U.S., and they have been losing market share
>> to CDMA for a very long time.
>
>Everyone in this thread knows the context of the conversation is the United
>States, but his statement clearly alludes to the entire world's marketshare,
>which is out of context.

Not true on either count.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

> Everyone in this thread knows the context of the conversation is the United
> States, but his statement clearly alludes to the entire world's marketshare,
> which is out of context.

He keeps claiming that it's become the leading technology in the USA.
Yet it not only has far fewer users and far less coverage, but has been
losing market share to CDMA quarter after quarter. It got a boost during
the conversion from TDMA to GSM, but this was due solely to one carrier
moving from TDMA to GSM.

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>> Ditto. That's always been my MO. I can deal with poor customer service,
>> but I can't deal with hardware or software that doesn't work Heck, if
>> the product works, chances are I'll not be using customer service anyway.
>
> All too often thats not the case with SprintPCS, hence folks getting
> upset at their abysmal Customer Service.

My Sprint account has never had a problem. In fact, I don't remember ever
having a serious enough problem with any carrier to require a call to
customer service to fix anything. BTW- statistics show that this would put
me in the same category with about 97% of the customer base that have the
same sort of product experience.

>
> Issues like if you move from one state to another, bugs in the Sprint
> billing system will double bill you on sales tax.

Never had that problem either.

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:37:15 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
> <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
>>Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> I always paid EVERY bill 3 weeks early, and still do.
>>
>>A good accountant or financial adviser will tell you to pay any bill [that
>>is
>>not accumulating interest over time] as close to the due date as possible.
>>Three weeks is a good way for them to have the money you pay them for the
>>entire year for an extra three weeks. So, say $1200 doing work for them
>>for
>>three weeks for free. You should be holding that money and earning
>>interest
>>or other ROI.
>
> Paying it early can also lead to confusion and errors.


Actually, no it doesn't. The process is generally automated and the system
processing the payment is not predictively guessing when payment will be
made.

Nice try, Skippy.

>I personally use
> online banking to automatically pay bills just a few days before then
> are due.


Who cares?

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Scott" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> >
>> > GSM has range comparable to CDMA2000, and has become the leading
>> > technology in the USA, rapidly gaining share over the past few years.
>>
>> You can't be the leading technology with fewer users. GSM has always and
>> continues to have fewer users in the US than CDMA.
>>
>> >
>> >>Without AMPS you
>> >>give up a tremendous amount of coverage, that you can't get with any
>> >>digital technology. So don't dismiss the technology, as it plays a big
>> >>part in how good your coverage is going to be.
>> >
>> > It actually doesn't for most people.
>> >
>>
>> More of your opinion? You continue to prove how much of a dinosaur you
>> are
>> with statements like that.
>
> Do the math, what percentage of folks live in the big cities.

And how many millions of visitors do the national parks and resort areas see
every year?

>
> What percentage of people live in the far recahes of a Western National
> Park? Some folks are happy to not have cell coverage when they go on
> vacation.

And some folks like to spread peanut butter on their chest. But many people
like the ability to maintain contact while on vacation- many more than don't
want coverage.

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 08:23:16 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
>>Scott wrote:
>>> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> GSM has range comparable to CDMA2000, and has become the leading
>>>> technology in the USA, rapidly gaining share over the past few years.
>>>
>>> You can't be the leading technology with fewer users. GSM has always
>>> and
>>> continues to have fewer users in the US than CDMA.
>>
>>LOL, I'd love to know by what criteria John thinks GSM is leading. ...
>
> Asked and answered. Please keep up.
>
No- asked and bull****ted to. You never answered.

Scott wrote:

>> What percentage of people live in the far recahes of a Western National
>> Park? Some folks are happy to not have cell coverage when they go on
>> vacation.
>
> And some folks like to spread peanut butter on their chest. But many people
> like the ability to maintain contact while on vacation- many more than don't
> want coverage.

It's not so much having coverage in order to engage in a gab fest while
on top of Half Dome, it's having coverage while driving to and from your
vacation location, as well as being reachable in case of emergency. The
problem with GSM, and to a lesser extent CDMA, is that the rural
coverage is very poor because it's impractical to install enough towers
to cover rural areas, especially when they are not flat.

Navas is really grasping at straws with his rationalizations of why it's
an advantage to have no coverage.