NEWS: Mobile internet is still a turn-off

On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:46:48 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:


>John Navas wrote:
>> Current EV-DO is certainly better than CDMA 1xRTT, but is still pretty
>> EV-DO
>> Rev A is claimed to be improved over current EV-DO, but is still
>> vaporware.

>We shall how valid your claim is in a few months when Sprint rolls out
>EV-DO Rev A

It is irrelevent to what people have experienced over the last 3 years.
I'm sure that everything is going to be wonderfull at some future date but
that doesn't make things any better right now with the phone I have right
now.

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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:58:49 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
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>In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:56:28 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
>> <[email protected]> wrote in
>> <[email protected]>:
>>
>>>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> Squintavision on a 2" screen with reduced Frame rates, is not something
>>>> thats an attraction.
>>>
>>>The Verizon EVDO offering, even on the smaller screens [such as my VX8300]
>>>does a pretty damn good job!
>>
>> Your eyes must be way better than mine.
>> I find the small picture to be a bad joke.
>
>With contacts I do better than 20/20.

With glasses (or contacts) I do too, but focusing that close is
nonetheless a problem for these aged eyes.

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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:06:12 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[email protected]> wrote in
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>In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:57:35 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
>> <[email protected]> wrote in
>> <[email protected]>:
>>
>>>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs AZ Nomad <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
>>>> Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
>>>> 5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
>>>> unusual.
>>>
>>>Upgrade to EVDO and you will change your mind. I recall it being pretty fast
>>>on Sprint and it is quite fast on Verizon as well. Just surfing the sites I
>>>am used to like CNN is now very fast.
>>
>> Current EV-DO is certainly better than CDMA 1xRTT, but is still pretty
>> sluggish on TCP/IP connections. HSDPA is a good deal snappier. EV-DO
>> Rev A is claimed to be improved over current EV-DO, but is still
>> vaporware.
>
>Ah yes ... but I have EVDO available to me now from two providers and HSDPA is
>not available to me at all. Further, Rev A is not vaporware, it is simply not
>deployed yet.

That's vaporware.

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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 00:18:27 GMT, AZ Nomad <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:46:48 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>John Navas wrote:

>>> Current EV-DO is certainly better than CDMA 1xRTT, but is still pretty
>>> EV-DO
>>> Rev A is claimed to be improved over current EV-DO, but is still
>>> vaporware.
>
>>We shall how valid your claim is in a few months when Sprint rolls out
>>EV-DO Rev A
>
>It is irrelevent to what people have experienced over the last 3 years.
>I'm sure that everything is going to be wonderfull at some future date but
>that doesn't make things any better right now with the phone I have right
>now.

Yep. All this RSN (real soon now) stuff is just meaningless handwaving.
What matters is what you can get NOW.

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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:23:16 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>AZ Nomad wrote:
>
>> Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
>> Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
>> 5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
>> unusual.
>
>What technology are you using? EV-DO is very fast, and HSDPA, while
>slower than EV-DO, and not as widely available, is still not as slow as
>you say.

HSDPA is actually faster than EV-DO, and more to the point, has much
less latency, which can be more important than speed when accessing
complex WAP and Web pages.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> HSDPA is not available to me at all.
> Further, Rev A is not vaporware, it is simply not deployed yet.

John Navas replied:
That's vaporware.


John Navas wrote:
> Yep. All this RSN (real soon now) stuff is just meaningless handwaving.
> What matters is what you can get NOW.


I can't get HSDPA, ergo...its vaporware.

"DecaturTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> > HSDPA is not available to me at all.
> > Further, Rev A is not vaporware, it is simply not deployed yet.
>
> John Navas replied:
> That's vaporware.
>
>
> John Navas wrote:
>> Yep. All this RSN (real soon now) stuff is just meaningless handwaving.
>> What matters is what you can get NOW.
>
>
> I can't get HSDPA, ergo...its vaporware.

I can't get extended GSM- it's vaporware, too.

Scott wrote:
> I can't get extended GSM- it's vaporware, too.


TOUCHE! That's funny!