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  1. #1
    rishil
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    I am an Google fan and love most of their offerings but I never knew
    about this.
    A Google page that allows you to send free text messages. Pretty simple
    looking form too

    more details at
    http://askwiki.blogspot.com/2006/09/...oogle-for.html

    Enjoy !!




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  2. #2
    Todd H.
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    Re: Now one can send text messages from Google

    "rishil" <[email protected]> writes:
    > I am an Google fan and love most of their offerings but I never knew
    > about this.
    > A Google page that allows you to send free text messages. Pretty simple
    > looking form too
    >
    > more details at
    > http://askwiki.blogspot.com/2006/09/...oogle-for.html
    >
    > Enjoy !!


    Which is cool, I'll grant. You can also have google calendar text you
    your appointments and such, and you can text back requests for the
    next appointment, the whole day, etc.

    But... "exactly how much personal information are you willing to give
    google about your life?" becomes the question. Do you really want a
    commercially owned publicly traded entity knowing your cell number,
    and everything you've been interested in searching about on the
    internet?

    They have a business model. And the amount of info they can know
    about you should send shivers down most folks spines. And just
    because they're known for "do no harm" ethics today doesn't mean they
    won't eventually succumb to the pressures of being a publicly traded
    corporation one day.

    --
    Todd H.
    http://www.toddh.net/



  3. #3
    decaturtxcowboy
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    Re: Now one can send text messages from Google

    Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Todd H.) wrote:
    >
    >> But... "exactly how much personal information are you willing to give
    >> google about your life?" becomes the question.

    >
    > yeah. Many of the same people who refuse to do business with Microsoft
    > for moral reasons don't hesitate to do business with Google....and yet,
    > Google is as evil as Microsoft ever was.
    >
    > Oh, I see--it's FREE.
    >
    > Well, now we know the price of dignity for those people.


    Not including the Open Source community...any for free has no value to
    you. Simply an Ad Hoc observation a buddy made to me.



  4. #4
    Todd H.
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    Re: Now one can send text messages from Google

    decaturtxcowboy <[email protected]> writes:

    > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
    > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Todd H.) wrote:
    > >
    > >> But... "exactly how much personal information are you willing to give
    > >> google about your life?" becomes the question.

    > > yeah. Many of the same people who refuse to do business with
    > > Microsoft for moral reasons don't hesitate to do business with
    > > Google....and yet, Google is as evil as Microsoft ever was.
    > > Oh, I see--it's FREE.
    > > Well, now we know the price of dignity for those people.

    >
    > Not including the Open Source community...any for free has no value to
    > you. Simply an Ad Hoc observation a buddy made to me.


    My point it's not really totally free. Gotta ask yourself what's
    Google (a publicly traded corporation accountable to shareholders with
    profit forecasts) gettin out of the deal other than getting your
    eyeballs to a page of theirs?

    Open source software is an entirely different animal. Private
    individuals can actually be altruistic, spend hours and hours on
    projects for the sheer passion of providing useful quality software,
    and give things away consistently and no one will ever yell at them
    except maybe their spouses. Publicly traded corporations on the
    other hand, are about making money. Not a bad thing, but it is a
    fact.

    So, I wouldn't believe for a moment that google won't be leveraging
    consumer information in your text messages (or your gmail account) in
    order to add to the compelling profile of information they're building
    on folks. And even if their Privacy Policy says they aren't today,
    note also that that's subject to change without notice, and it's hard
    for anyone to verify that they aren't collecting such info.

    Of course, feel free to enjoy the service, mind you, but just make
    wise decisions on the info you provide when signing up, consider using
    separate accounts for various google services, or whatever you'd like
    if you aren't interested in a 3rd party knowing a surprising amount
    about you gleaned from information exchanged across those services.
    And, as with their search engine, the use of anonymizing proxies and
    onion routing might be worthwhile too depending on your level of
    vigilance.

    For instance, it'd be a sad day when and if your life or health
    insurance rates happened to get quoted really realy high to a healthy
    person just because they'd been texting something about grandma's
    cancer through a google service tied back to them. Now, according to
    privacy policies today, that's not supposed to happen or be shared
    with third parties in identifiable ways, but nothing technical
    prevents google from building up such a database today, or being able
    to sell such profiling information to third parties tomorrow. The
    weasels at Choicepoint somehow get the captial to buy out google, all
    bets would be off, for instance.

    Trading privacy for convenience is a sacrifice way too many consumers
    are way too willing to make.

    Best Regards,
    --
    Todd H.
    http://www.toddh.net/



  5. #5
    John Navas
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    Re: Now one can send text messages from Google

    On 14 Oct 2006 20:34:37 -0500, [email protected] (Todd H.) wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >My point it's not really totally free. Gotta ask yourself what's
    >Google (a publicly traded corporation accountable to shareholders with
    >profit forecasts) gettin out of the deal other than getting your
    >eyeballs to a page of theirs?


    That's all Google needs -- just look at its financials.

    >So, I wouldn't believe for a moment that google won't be leveraging
    >consumer information in your text messages (or your gmail account) in
    >order to add to the compelling profile of information they're building
    >on folks. And even if their Privacy Policy says they aren't today,
    >note also that that's subject to change without notice, and it's hard
    >for anyone to verify that they aren't collecting such info.


    A wee bit paranoid, are we?

    >Of course, feel free to enjoy the service, ...


    I do. And I'm not at all worried. I protect sensitive information with
    strong encryption, and I'm not at all concerned about what Google might
    make out of the rest, especially given the firestorm that would
    inevitably follow if Google engaged in widespread privacy abuse. I'm
    quite confident that it's not about to commit suicide that way. YMMV.

    --
    Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  6. #6
    Todd H.
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    Re: Now one can send text messages from Google

    John Navas <[email protected]> writes:

    > A wee bit paranoid, are we?


    Assuming that technical possibilities are likely to be exploited is
    part of my job. You can call it paranoid it if makes you feel
    better in your use of the service. :-)

    > >Of course, feel free to enjoy the service, ...

    >
    > I do. And I'm not at all worried. I protect sensitive information
    > with strong encryption, and I'm not at all concerned about what
    > Google might make out of the rest, especially given the firestorm
    > that would inevitably follow if Google engaged in widespread privacy
    > abuse. I'm quite confident that it's not about to commit suicide
    > that way. YMMV.


    I think you're half right.

    The best way to wrap your head around why consumers want to be careful
    on these services is not to think in terms of the current company
    remaining the way it is, but instead to think of the current company
    as a buyout target for someone else who wants their intellectual
    capital for marketing leverage.

    Now if you wanna see somethin scary, have a peek into one possible
    2015 future where GoogleZon controls the world:
    http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/epic

    Now that's paranoid...but plausible.

    Don't forget that bit about sacrificing liberty for security. Similar
    thoughts are applicable to privacy and convenience.

    Best Regards,
    --
    Todd H.
    http://www.toddh.net/



  7. #7
    John Navas
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    Re: Now one can send text messages from Google

    On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:35:56 GMT, John Navas
    <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >On 14 Oct 2006 20:34:37 -0500, [email protected] (Todd H.) wrote in
    ><[email protected]>:
    >
    >>My point it's not really totally free. Gotta ask yourself what's
    >>Google (a publicly traded corporation accountable to shareholders with
    >>profit forecasts) gettin out of the deal other than getting your
    >>eyeballs to a page of theirs?

    >
    >That's all Google needs -- just look at its financials.


    "Google sees profits almost double"
    <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6067084.stm>

    Internet search giant Google has confirmed its ongoing market
    domination by announcing that its third quarter profits have almost
    doubled.

    During the three months until the end of September, its net income
    was $733m ($390m), a 92% increase on the $381m it made in the same
    time last year.

    With advertising sales soaring, Google's revenues rose 70% from a
    year ago to $2.7bn.

    [MORE]

    And to think DEC was there first with Alta Vista, but couldn't figure
    out what to do with it, so dumped it. [sigh]

    --
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