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  1. #46
    Jeffrey Kaplan
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    Re: Cingular to change name

    It is alleged that Kurt claimed:

    > Good, read my comments further.


    Ok...

    > BTW- why the upgrade? 680, from all the reviews, has shortcomings like
    > diminished battery life. Blazer's apparently a little quicker, but I
    > don't see the big deal - especially since you aren't on a data plan.


    The 650 has ~24MB of on-board storage and the 680 has 69MB. The 650
    has 8MB of dbcache and the 680 has 24M. I actually mostly like the new
    phone app on the 680. The 680 not only has better audio quality in the
    phone, it also gets better reception despite the lack of an external
    antenna (real-world testing, not just product blurbs). And a few other
    tweaks here and there, like the card slots no longer being exposed.

    Yes, the battery life is shorter, it is a smaller battery. But the
    "battery drain" issue mostly goes away within a week if you do some
    battery conditioning and leave BT and the data radios off except when
    needed. I'm now able to go at least a day and a half without draining
    the battery, and since I'm rarely more than an hour from a charger (one
    bedside, one deskside, and one in my car), I'm OK.

    > > Just because Cingular wants to sell you their unlimited PDA Connect for
    > > another $40/month doesn't mean that MediaNet doesn't work. It works
    > > just fine for me. It's just the name of a data service.

    >
    > Had my Treo for almost 2 years. Intially tried to set up MediaNet. This
    > was before I had any data plan. Wouldn't work. Was told from the get-go
    > that MediaNet would not work with Treo. They, on many occasions, have
    > told me that this is for cell phones only, not Treo. Spent a lot of time
    > with Cingular with this.
    > If you actually use it on your 650/680 - proof how screwed up Cingular
    > is with Treo support.


    When I got the 650 (June, '05) they tried to sell me a data plan. I
    think my top usage of data at that time was 50kB over a nine month
    period, so I declined the data plan. They +said+ that unless I got a
    data plan, I would not be able to use a data connection.

    A week later, I went to a different Cingular outlet and asked about it,
    without specifying what device I was using, and I was told "no
    problem", it would just be at the a la carte pricing of $0.01/kB, on
    the default MediaNet connection, if I wanted a higher-speed connection,
    I'd have to get a data plan for the higher speed.

    And... it works. The connection details were already programmed in,
    all I had to do was tell a data app to go online. Be it Blazer/Treo
    Web, Opera Mini, DirectoryAssistant, or whatever.

    When I upgraded to the 680 (unlocked, I figured I'd have to enter my
    call and network settings manually), I went to Call Preferences to
    enter the voicemail number and the Treo said it would query for this
    information for me, and it did. It also apparently got the data
    network settings either OTA at the same time or off of my SIM because
    those settings were there too, when I next went to the Network prefs
    panel.

    Now, my data usage is higher, but it's still less than the "cheaper to
    get a plan" threshold so I still use it a la carte.

    > Xpressmail would not work, and Cingular support said it was
    > compatibility issues with Treo.


    As I said before, I used it once, nearly two years ago now, and didn't
    like it. Maybe I just didn't like it, maybe it didn't work right.
    Upshot is that XPressMail should work since it's an app for the Palm,
    but has a crappy design. Since my 680 is an unlocked model, I don't
    even have it anymore, and my 650 has been mailed to Trade Ups for a
    rebate so I can't check back on the old device either.

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  2. #47
    Ms. Treo
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    Re: Cingular to change name

    Does anyone know when Cingular will change to at & t? Will the logo on
    our Cingular phones actually change to the at & t logo? I read that at
    & t will change to all lower case letters.

    NB


    On Dec 29 2006, 6:58 pm, Jackzwick <[email protected]> wrote:
    > AT&T (really the old SBC) has gotten approval to swallow up Bell South.
    >
    > http://news.monstersandcritics.com/b...e_1238026.php/...
    > _wins_OK_for_$85B_BellSouth_deal
    >
    > as part of that they say the Cingular name will go away,
    > to be replaced by AT&T





  3. #48
    Mij Adyaw
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    Re: Cingular to change name

    It will change to att-stinkular. :-)

    "Ms. Treo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]groups.com...
    > Does anyone know when Cingular will change to at & t? Will the logo on
    > our Cingular phones actually change to the at & t logo? I read that at
    > & t will change to all lower case letters.
    >
    > NB






  4. #49
    Kurt
    Guest

    Re: Cingular to change name

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Jeffrey Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote:

    > It is alleged that Kurt claimed:
    >
    > > Good, read my comments further.

    >
    > Ok...
    >
    > > BTW- why the upgrade? 680, from all the reviews, has shortcomings like
    > > diminished battery life. Blazer's apparently a little quicker, but I
    > > don't see the big deal - especially since you aren't on a data plan.

    >
    > The 650 has ~24MB of on-board storage and the 680 has 69MB. The 650
    > has 8MB of dbcache and the 680 has 24M. I actually mostly like the new
    > phone app on the 680. The 680 not only has better audio quality in the
    > phone, it also gets better reception despite the lack of an external
    > antenna (real-world testing, not just product blurbs). And a few other
    > tweaks here and there, like the card slots no longer being exposed.
    >
    > Yes, the battery life is shorter, it is a smaller battery. But the
    > "battery drain" issue mostly goes away within a week if you do some
    > battery conditioning and leave BT and the data radios off except when
    > needed. I'm now able to go at least a day and a half without draining
    > the battery, and since I'm rarely more than an hour from a charger (one
    > bedside, one deskside, and one in my car), I'm OK.
    >
    > > > Just because Cingular wants to sell you their unlimited PDA Connect for
    > > > another $40/month doesn't mean that MediaNet doesn't work. It works
    > > > just fine for me. It's just the name of a data service.

    > >
    > > Had my Treo for almost 2 years. Intially tried to set up MediaNet. This
    > > was before I had any data plan. Wouldn't work. Was told from the get-go
    > > that MediaNet would not work with Treo. They, on many occasions, have
    > > told me that this is for cell phones only, not Treo. Spent a lot of time
    > > with Cingular with this.
    > > If you actually use it on your 650/680 - proof how screwed up Cingular
    > > is with Treo support.

    >
    > When I got the 650 (June, '05) they tried to sell me a data plan. I
    > think my top usage of data at that time was 50kB over a nine month
    > period, so I declined the data plan. They +said+ that unless I got a
    > data plan, I would not be able to use a data connection.
    >
    > A week later, I went to a different Cingular outlet and asked about it,
    > without specifying what device I was using, and I was told "no
    > problem", it would just be at the a la carte pricing of $0.01/kB, on
    > the default MediaNet connection, if I wanted a higher-speed connection,
    > I'd have to get a data plan for the higher speed.
    >
    > And... it works. The connection details were already programmed in,
    > all I had to do was tell a data app to go online. Be it Blazer/Treo
    > Web, Opera Mini, DirectoryAssistant, or whatever.
    >
    > When I upgraded to the 680 (unlocked, I figured I'd have to enter my
    > call and network settings manually), I went to Call Preferences to
    > enter the voicemail number and the Treo said it would query for this
    > information for me, and it did. It also apparently got the data
    > network settings either OTA at the same time or off of my SIM because
    > those settings were there too, when I next went to the Network prefs
    > panel.
    >
    > Now, my data usage is higher, but it's still less than the "cheaper to
    > get a plan" threshold so I still use it a la carte.
    >
    > > Xpressmail would not work, and Cingular support said it was
    > > compatibility issues with Treo.

    >
    > As I said before, I used it once, nearly two years ago now, and didn't
    > like it. Maybe I just didn't like it, maybe it didn't work right.
    > Upshot is that XPressMail should work since it's an app for the Palm,
    > but has a crappy design. Since my 680 is an unlocked model, I don't
    > even have it anymore, and my 650 has been mailed to Trade Ups for a
    > rebate so I can't check back on the old device either.


    Thanks for your experience. I have been doing the $20 5 MB data plan.
    How much do you end up spending with Medianet. May get mine switched
    over. Aren't they doing unlimited Medianet for $16?

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  5. #50
    Jeffrey Kaplan
    Guest

    Cingular Data: Plan or no plan? (Was: Re: Cingular to change name)

    It is alleged that Kurt claimed:

    > > Now, my data usage is higher, but it's still less than the "cheaper to
    > > get a plan" threshold so I still use it a la carte.

    > Thanks for your experience. I have been doing the $20 5 MB data plan.
    > How much do you end up spending with Medianet. May get mine switched


    I'm currently averaging less than $10/month for less than 1MB a la
    carte. My threshold for getting a data plan is two consecutive months
    of $15 (1.5MB ) or more.

    Media Basic at $10/month is the same rate per kB as a la carte, but
    Media Works is $15 for 5MB plus 1 cent per kB over.

    Messaging units are not a factor in my calculations, though I suppose
    that since they're included with a data plan that I'll probably use
    them if/when I get a data plan.

    > over. Aren't they doing unlimited Medianet for $16?


    There hasn't been an "Unlimited MediaNet" for quite a while. Looking
    at the plan features page now, I see the above mentioned Media Basic
    and Media Works, a Media Max 200 at $20/month for "unlimited" data plus
    200 messaging units and a Media Max 1000, the same as the 200 but with
    1000 messaging units, at $30/month.

    And, I see those while logged into my Cingular account page which has
    my correct phone (Treo 680) selected, so the selector system knows what
    equipment I have. Actually, I'm finding it difficult to even +find+
    the PDA Connect plan online...

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    death and/or mutilation, consider working for a more fault-tolerant
    deity.



  6. #51
    Kurt
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Data: Plan or no plan? (Was: Re: Cingular to change name)

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Jeffrey Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote:

    > It is alleged that Kurt claimed:
    >
    > > > Now, my data usage is higher, but it's still less than the "cheaper to
    > > > get a plan" threshold so I still use it a la carte.

    > > Thanks for your experience. I have been doing the $20 5 MB data plan.
    > > How much do you end up spending with Medianet. May get mine switched

    >
    > I'm currently averaging less than $10/month for less than 1MB a la
    > carte. My threshold for getting a data plan is two consecutive months
    > of $15 (1.5MB ) or more.
    >
    > Media Basic at $10/month is the same rate per kB as a la carte, but
    > Media Works is $15 for 5MB plus 1 cent per kB over.
    >
    > Messaging units are not a factor in my calculations, though I suppose
    > that since they're included with a data plan that I'll probably use
    > them if/when I get a data plan.
    >
    > > over. Aren't they doing unlimited Medianet for $16?

    >
    > There hasn't been an "Unlimited MediaNet" for quite a while. Looking
    > at the plan features page now, I see the above mentioned Media Basic
    > and Media Works, a Media Max 200 at $20/month for "unlimited" data plus
    > 200 messaging units and a Media Max 1000, the same as the 200 but with
    > 1000 messaging units, at $30/month.
    >
    > And, I see those while logged into my Cingular account page which has
    > my correct phone (Treo 680) selected, so the selector system knows what
    > equipment I have. Actually, I'm finding it difficult to even +find+
    > the PDA Connect plan online...


    We'll have to see how it actually pans out, but as a longtime Mac user,
    the iPhone looks spectacular. My contract is up in May and Cingular
    won't let me upgrade until then.

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  7. #52
    P.Schuman
    Guest

    Re: Cingular to change name

    gee -
    do we now go back to the other newsgroup - attws -





  8. #53
    jeremy
    Guest

    Re: Cingular to change name


    "Todd H." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > "rjdriver" <[email protected]> writes:
    >> >> But amongst those of a certain age, the name "AT&T" conjures up dark
    >> >> memories of the hated "Ma Bell". <<

    >>
    >> Hated "Ma Bell"? What would that certain age be that hated
    >> "Ma Bell"?

    >
    > Can't say exactly, but I can say mid 30's qualifies. I recall when ma
    > Bell controlled things with an expensive iron fist right down to
    > renting all your phones to you. You know the ones with the actualy
    > bell ringers that Gen X and beyond probably only know from the Matrix
    > movies.
    >
    > --
    > Todd H.
    > http://www.toddh.net/


    I own a bunch of those old Western Electric phones, and they all work
    flawlessly.





  9. #54
    jeremy
    Guest

    Re: Cingular to change name


    "Ms. Treo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Does anyone know when Cingular will change to at & t? Will the logo on
    > our Cingular phones actually change to the at & t logo? I read that at
    > & t will change to all lower case letters.
    >
    > NB
    >
    >
    > On Dec 29 2006, 6:58 pm, Jackzwick <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> AT&T (really the old SBC) has gotten approval to swallow up Bell South.
    >>
    >> http://news.monstersandcritics.com/b...e_1238026.php/...
    >> _wins_OK_for_$85B_BellSouth_deal
    >>
    >> as part of that they say the Cingular name will go away,
    >> to be replaced by AT&T

    >


    The name change takes effect today. And "Jack" (the Cingular logo) will be
    going away, to be replaced with the att logo. The company is going to be
    called "Wireless service from AT&T."





  10. #55
    Mij Adyaw
    Guest

    Re: Cingular to change name

    It seems that Mr Navas was correct in posting his FAQ and Posting Guidelines
    to both the Cingular and the ATTWS group. He probably knew that the namve
    changes was going to happen long before we did.






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