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- 01-19-2007, 07:39 AM #1jeremyGuest
AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless customers
to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m, wireless customers
will be able to call AT&T landlines without incurring usage fees or using
their wireless minutes.
AT&T has 100 million landlines.
Good marketing strategy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
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- 01-19-2007, 09:12 AM #2Guest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:38 GMT, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless customers
>to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m, wireless customers
>will be able to call AT&T landlines without incurring usage fees or using
>their wireless minutes.
>
>AT&T has 100 million landlines.
Maybe 20 meet the requiremenrts.
>
>Good marketing strategy.
Bad marketing, when folks find they dont get that free calling because
of all the gotchas.
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
>
NOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
Jeremy left out all the gotchas.. It's hardly a simple plan.
To call a landline free, the landline customer
1. Must be an AT&T POTS customer, within the regular AT&T service
area. (SBC/Bellsouth) on the landline.
2. Must have AT&T unlimited long distance and unlimited local on the
landline. Far more expensive than say Vonage.
and....
3. Wireless customer must have a $59.99 or more AT&T wireless plan.
4. The press release fails to mention (and thus likely time charges at
the wireless end) calls from landline to wireless.
- 01-19-2007, 09:20 AM #3Guest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:12:45 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:38 GMT, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless customers
>>to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m, wireless customers
>>will be able to call AT&T landlines without incurring usage fees or using
>>their wireless minutes.
>>
>>AT&T has 100 million landlines.
>
>Maybe 20 meet the requiremenrts.
>
>>
>>Good marketing strategy.
>
>Bad marketing, when folks find they dont get that free calling because
>of all the gotchas.
>
>>
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
>>
>
>NOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
>
>Jeremy left out all the gotchas.. It's hardly a simple plan.
> To call a landline free, the landline customer
>
>1. Must be an AT&T POTS customer, within the regular AT&T service
>area. (SBC/Bellsouth) on the landline.
>
>2. Must have AT&T unlimited long distance and unlimited local on the
>landline. Far more expensive than say Vonage.
>
>and....
>
>3. Wireless customer must have a $59.99 or more AT&T wireless plan.
>
>4. The press release fails to mention (and thus likely time charges at
>the wireless end) calls from landline to wireless.
More gotchas - in the press release/web site, but not the news story.
5. You have to get a new Cingular "Unity" plan (likely will decrease
your plan minutes).
6. You have to have combined ATT/Cingular billing; likely the $5 month
credit for combined billing is going away due to the "benefit" of the
Unity plan.
http://www.cingular.com/learn/why/un...nformation.jsp
Read it and weep. Put a pencil to it. For most people, you lose.
- 01-19-2007, 10:24 AM #4KurtGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:12:45 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:38 GMT, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless
> >>customers
> >>to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m, wireless customers
> >>will be able to call AT&T landlines without incurring usage fees or using
> >>their wireless minutes.
> >>
> >>AT&T has 100 million landlines.
> >
> >Maybe 20 meet the requiremenrts.
> >
> >>
> >>Good marketing strategy.
> >
> >Bad marketing, when folks find they dont get that free calling because
> >of all the gotchas.
> >
> >>
> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
> >>
> >
> >NOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
> >
> >Jeremy left out all the gotchas.. It's hardly a simple plan.
> > To call a landline free, the landline customer
> >
> >1. Must be an AT&T POTS customer, within the regular AT&T service
> >area. (SBC/Bellsouth) on the landline.
> >
> >2. Must have AT&T unlimited long distance and unlimited local on the
> >landline. Far more expensive than say Vonage.
> >
> >and....
> >
> >3. Wireless customer must have a $59.99 or more AT&T wireless plan.
> >
> >4. The press release fails to mention (and thus likely time charges at
> >the wireless end) calls from landline to wireless.
>
>
> More gotchas - in the press release/web site, but not the news story.
>
> 5. You have to get a new Cingular "Unity" plan (likely will decrease
> your plan minutes).
>
> 6. You have to have combined ATT/Cingular billing; likely the $5 month
> credit for combined billing is going away due to the "benefit" of the
> Unity plan.
>
> http://www.cingular.com/learn/why/un...nformation.jsp
>
> Read it and weep. Put a pencil to it. For most people, you lose.
Yes, their ads will be a huge headline announcing FREE CALLING WITH ATT,
a short teaser with a picture of a teen on a phone calling a friend at
home, then 50 paragraphs of 5 pt. type disclaimers.
LOL
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- 01-19-2007, 11:01 AM #5SMSGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
jeremy wrote:
> AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless customers
> to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m, wireless customers
> will be able to call AT&T landlines without incurring usage fees or using
> their wireless minutes.
>
> AT&T has 100 million landlines.
>
> Good marketing strategy.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
Of those 100 million landlines, how many have AT&T unlimited long
distance at at least $40/month, and how many of the cellular lines have
$59.99/900 minutes. I guess it's aimed at businesses.
- 01-19-2007, 12:08 PM #6JerGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
SMS wrote:
> jeremy wrote:
>> AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless
>> customers to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m,
>> wireless customers will be able to call AT&T landlines without
>> incurring usage fees or using their wireless minutes.
>>
>> AT&T has 100 million landlines.
>>
>> Good marketing strategy.
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
>
> Of those 100 million landlines, how many have AT&T unlimited long
> distance at at least $40/month, and how many of the cellular lines have
> $59.99/900 minutes. I guess it's aimed at businesses.
To be sure, it's an aggressive marketing plan intended to nudge clients
into a package focused on bundled service from at&t. Not that there's
anything wrong with that.
--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
- 01-19-2007, 01:29 PM #7jeremyGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
"SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> jeremy wrote:
>> AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless
>> customers to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m, wireless
>> customers will be able to call AT&T landlines without incurring usage
>> fees or using their wireless minutes.
>>
>> AT&T has 100 million landlines.
>>
>> Good marketing strategy.
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
>
> Of those 100 million landlines, how many have AT&T unlimited long distance
> at at least $40/month, and how many of the cellular lines have $59.99/900
> minutes. I guess it's aimed at businesses.
Still, it sounds like a powerful advertising incentive. If your business
and/or family are on AT&T landlines, that could give you a lot of free
calls. Even if the monthly charge is a bit on the high side, there are
going to be people that will come out ahead.
- 01-19-2007, 10:57 PM #8decaturtxcowboyGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
jeremy wrote:
> AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless customers
> to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m, wireless customers
> will be able to call AT&T landlines without incurring usage fees or using
> their wireless minutes.
Combine that with Remote Call Forwarding, and you could effectively get
free calls to anyone else. Assuming you have the unlimited LD package on
your home phone.
- 01-20-2007, 02:10 PM #9Guest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:08:37 -0600, Jer <[email protected]> wrote:
>SMS wrote:
>> jeremy wrote:
>>> AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless
>>> customers to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m,
>>> wireless customers will be able to call AT&T landlines without
>>> incurring usage fees or using their wireless minutes.
>>>
>>> AT&T has 100 million landlines.
>>>
>>> Good marketing strategy.
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
>>
>> Of those 100 million landlines, how many have AT&T unlimited long
>> distance at at least $40/month, and how many of the cellular lines have
>> $59.99/900 minutes. I guess it's aimed at businesses.
>
>
>To be sure, it's an aggressive marketing plan intended to nudge clients
>into a package focused on bundled service from at&t. Not that there's
>anything wrong with that.
It's called deceptive advertising. Making like they're giving you
something for nothing when in fact you're losing.
At the very least the monthly discount for combined billing.
- 01-20-2007, 02:25 PM #10SMSGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
[email protected] wrote:
> It's called deceptive advertising. Making like they're giving you
> something for nothing when in fact you're losing.
AT&T has long been the master at deceptive long distance calling plans.
- 01-20-2007, 02:29 PM #11JerGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
[email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:08:37 -0600, Jer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> SMS wrote:
>>> jeremy wrote:
>>>> AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless
>>>> customers to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m,
>>>> wireless customers will be able to call AT&T landlines without
>>>> incurring usage fees or using their wireless minutes.
>>>>
>>>> AT&T has 100 million landlines.
>>>>
>>>> Good marketing strategy.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
>>> Of those 100 million landlines, how many have AT&T unlimited long
>>> distance at at least $40/month, and how many of the cellular lines have
>>> $59.99/900 minutes. I guess it's aimed at businesses.
>>
>> To be sure, it's an aggressive marketing plan intended to nudge clients
>> into a package focused on bundled service from at&t. Not that there's
>> anything wrong with that.
>
>
> It's called deceptive advertising. Making like they're giving you
> something for nothing when in fact you're losing.
>
> At the very least the monthly discount for combined billing.
Well... uhhhh... yeah... all advertising is either a half-truth or a
half-lie, depending on whether or not the audience is in the marketing
business. I'm not.
--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
- 01-20-2007, 03:30 PM #12jeremyGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:08:37 -0600, Jer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>SMS wrote:
>>> jeremy wrote:
>>>> AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless
>>>> customers to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m,
>>>> wireless customers will be able to call AT&T landlines without
>>>> incurring usage fees or using their wireless minutes.
>>>>
>>>> AT&T has 100 million landlines.
>>>>
>>>> Good marketing strategy.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
>>>
>>> Of those 100 million landlines, how many have AT&T unlimited long
>>> distance at at least $40/month, and how many of the cellular lines have
>>> $59.99/900 minutes. I guess it's aimed at businesses.
>>
>>
>>To be sure, it's an aggressive marketing plan intended to nudge clients
>>into a package focused on bundled service from at&t. Not that there's
>>anything wrong with that.
>
>
> It's called deceptive advertising. Making like they're giving you
> something for nothing when in fact you're losing.
>
> At the very least the monthly discount for combined billing.
I agree that this will not be beneficial to everybody, but . . .
Those customers that meet the requirements will see their total number of
free calling numbers increase by a factor of 4 (I think that Cingular had
about 25 million m2m, and they now are adding 100m landlines).
I hope that my own carrier, Sprint, offers something similar to its
customers.
With all the stagnation in innovative discount plans lately, it is good to
see "something" new.
I am quite happy with Sprint. $30/month per line, 7 PM N/W, free roaming,
even local calls will hop onto Verizon if there is no Sprint tower,
unlimited M2M (I use that a lot), Free long distance. C'mon, where can I go
and get a deal that is much better than that? And, unlike my experience
with Cingular, after they took control of my ATTWS service, my calls go
through on the first try, and I rarely get a dropped call.
All I want to do is to be able to make and receive calls. No need for
anything else. Just have my phone connect when I need it. I was happier
with my old Motorola handset, back in the analog days, than I was with
Cingular. My daughter, on the other hand, uses them and loves them. Go
figure.
- 01-21-2007, 02:39 PM #133GfreakGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
VONAGE is VOIP! Not landline service and there are a few "Must Have's"
to get this package, but it isn't much different than having a
landline, cellphone etc. The benefits are far greater and much more
cost effective in the long run.
3GFreak
www.mobilevertigo.com
[email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:38 GMT, "jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >AT&T announced that they will expand the ability of their wireless customers
> >to make free calls. In addition to getting free m2m, wireless customers
> >will be able to call AT&T landlines without incurring usage fees or using
> >their wireless minutes.
> >
> >AT&T has 100 million landlines.
>
> Maybe 20 meet the requiremenrts.
>
> >
> >Good marketing strategy.
>
> Bad marketing, when folks find they dont get that free calling because
> of all the gotchas.
>
> >
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/19/bu...=1&oref=slogin
> >
>
> NOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
>
> Jeremy left out all the gotchas.. It's hardly a simple plan.
> To call a landline free, the landline customer
>
> 1. Must be an AT&T POTS customer, within the regular AT&T service
> area. (SBC/Bellsouth) on the landline.
>
> 2. Must have AT&T unlimited long distance and unlimited local on the
> landline. Far more expensive than say Vonage.
>
> and....
>
> 3. Wireless customer must have a $59.99 or more AT&T wireless plan.
>
> 4. The press release fails to mention (and thus likely time charges at
> the wireless end) calls from landline to wireless.
- 01-21-2007, 04:52 PM #14jeremyGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "3Gfreak" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> VONAGE is VOIP! Not landline service and there are a few "Must Have's"
>> to get this package, but it isn't much different than having a
>> landline, cellphone etc. The benefits are far greater and much more
>> cost effective in the long run.
>
> Not sure what your post had to do with the article you actually replied
> to...
>
> Anyway, vonage is overpriced. WAY overpriced. Do your research.
>
Published reports have noted that 25% of Vonage's customers leave each year.
Vonage has to find replacements for 25% of their customer base annually,
just to stay in place. If memory serves me correctly, Vonage has not turned
a profit yet.
- 01-21-2007, 07:58 PM #15ThurmanGuest
Re: AT&T/Cingular Customers Call Free to AT&T Landline Customers
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Anyway, vonage is overpriced. WAY overpriced. Do your research.
After SWB/SBC/ATT charged me 98 cents a minute for Canada calls, I went
Vonage where Canada is local.
Charter called to offer 32 cents/min for calls to Costa Rica vs ATT's 34
cents; Vonage is 2 (yep, two). I call every week now, not every quarter.
Mercado para la venta de autos.
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