Sprint Leads in data ARPU, Verizon passes Cingular in Subscribers,according to IDC Report

See "http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.aspx?CIaNID=49296&src=site-marq"

Sprint leads Verizon by 41¢ in data ARPU.

Verizon passed Cingular in retail subscribers by half a million.
"Verizon became the new market leader in terms of total direct retail
subscribers/customers, with a total of 56.8 million, against 56.3
million for Cingular," said IDC's Julien Blin in a statement.

Cingular still leads in subscribers when you include wholesale MVNO
customers that sell under a variety of brands.

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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:20:48 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>See "http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.aspx?CIaNID=49296&src=site-marq"
>
>Sprint leads Verizon by 41¢ in data ARPU.

Thanks to Nextel.

>Verizon passed Cingular in retail subscribers by half a million.

That's just a guess. Only time will tell whether it's true or not.

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Scott wrote:

> Hardly- the GREAT majority of that ARPU is derived from the CDMA network.
> There is no high speed data packet on the iDen network.

The key point was that Sprint had slipped behind Verizon in data ARPU,
but regained the lead. Obviously Nextel had nothing to do with Sprint
regaining the lead, the increase came from the 1xEVDO network. It's
pretty ironic that Sprint leads all the other carriers in data ARPU,
considering their difficulties in new additions.

SMS <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Scott wrote:
>
>> Hardly- the GREAT majority of that ARPU is derived from the CDMA
>> network. There is no high speed data packet on the iDen network.
>
> The key point was that Sprint had slipped behind Verizon in data ARPU,
> but regained the lead. Obviously Nextel had nothing to do with Sprint
> regaining the lead, the increase came from the 1xEVDO network. It's
> pretty ironic that Sprint leads all the other carriers in data ARPU,
> considering their difficulties in new additions.
>

I think you'll see that ship right itself with 1Q numbers- not gangbusters,
but the serious bleeding appears to be over. Their iDen /CDMA phones
appears to selling quite well and they completed cutting 5,000 jobs from
the payroll (merger redundancy). Billing integrations is said to be
running on schedule. From a merger perspective, many of the synergy
savings are starting to materialize which will make Wall Street very happy.

With a couple of the product announcements made for early 2Q release and
finally some movement on their joint venture cable stuff,they are
postioning themselves well for a very interesting second half of the year.
Add in that they are experimenting with flat rate plans and talking about
Wimax in "subscription" terms and they have suddenly become the most
cutting-edge carrier in the market. If any one of these catches on, they
are well positioned to make a big move in market-share over the next two
years. All of the other carriers seem rather pedestrian by comparision,
simply repackaging their current offerings into the Flavor of the Month.

Don't get me wrong- Sprint still has a lot of baggage to get rid of before
they can make the next step. However, they are showing signs of life,
which could be bad for everybody else.

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:33:24 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Scott wrote:
>
>> Hardly- the GREAT majority of that ARPU is derived from the CDMA network.
>> There is no high speed data packet on the iDen network.
>
>The key point was that Sprint had slipped behind Verizon in data ARPU,
>but regained the lead. Obviously Nextel had nothing to do with Sprint
>regaining the lead, the increase came from the 1xEVDO network. It's
>pretty ironic that Sprint leads all the other carriers in data ARPU,
>considering their difficulties in new additions.

It's actually nonsensical. As I wrote, iDEN.

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:33:24 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
>>Scott wrote:
>>
>>> Hardly- the GREAT majority of that ARPU is derived from the CDMA
>>> network. There is no high speed data packet on the iDen network.
>>
>>The key point was that Sprint had slipped behind Verizon in data ARPU,
>>but regained the lead. Obviously Nextel had nothing to do with Sprint
>>regaining the lead, the increase came from the 1xEVDO network. It's
>>pretty ironic that Sprint leads all the other carriers in data ARPU,
>>considering their difficulties in new additions.
>
> It's actually nonsensical. As I wrote, iDEN.
>

And you are still wrong. Show me one iDen product that generates any kind
of substantial data charge- there isn't one.

You are quickly showing yourself to be very uneducated on the subject,
Novice.

Scott wrote:

> And you are still wrong. Show me one iDen product that generates any kind
> of substantial data charge- there isn't one.

The iDEN users pull the average down. If you exclude iDEN, the Sprint
data ARPU is over $10 per month, with iDEN it's $8.32. This is because
data use on iDEN is limited to some text messaging, but not the high
revenue data services that are on CDMA. The reason that Sprint's data
ARPU is going up is not only because of increased sales on their EVDO
network, it's because they are losing low data revenue iDEN customers,
which is not a good thing since they are often leaving for Verizon or
Cingular. Increasing ARPU by losing profitable, but lower ARPU
customers, is not such a great strategy.

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:16:26 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Scott wrote:
>
>> And you are still wrong. Show me one iDen product that generates any kind
>> of substantial data charge- there isn't one.
>
>The iDEN users pull the average down. If you exclude iDEN, the Sprint
>data ARPU is over $10 per month, with iDEN it's $8.32. This is because
>data use on iDEN is limited to some text messaging, but not the high
>revenue data services that are on CDMA. The reason that Sprint's data
>ARPU is going up is not only because of increased sales on their EVDO
>network, it's because they are losing low data revenue iDEN customers,
>which is not a good thing since they are often leaving for Verizon or
>Cingular. Increasing ARPU by losing profitable, but lower ARPU
>customers, is not such a great strategy.

According to IDC: "Of the total data revenue, 48.8% came from messaging
in comparison to 13.0% from content and simple application downloads and
38.2% from other business-and consumer-oriented services and content."

In other words, EV-DO _isn't_ the driving factor -- it's messaging.

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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:20:48 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>[SNIP]

Reality check:

Sprint still struggling to make Nextel merger work
Revenue expected to remain flat and big layoffs
coming for wireless carrier.
By Denise Pappalardo, NetworkWorld.com, 01/09/07
<http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/010907-sprint-nextel-earnings.html>

The honeymoon period is clearly over for Sprint and Nextel. Their $36
billion marriage at the end of 2005 was supposed to result in a
wireless powerhouse with strong average revenue per user (ARPU). But
Sprint Nextel Monday said its earnings for 2007 will fall below
earlier expectation; its revenue will be flat and that it will lay
off 5,000 employees to cut costs.

....

Industry watchers say the carrier's ARPU sipped even further in the
fourth quarter after three consecutive months of decline, yet strong
ARPU was one of the reasons Sprint bought Nextel.

Back in 2004, when the merger was proposed, Nextel’s ARPU was $69
while Sprint’s was $63, Verizon’s $51.58 and Cingular’s $49.78. But
Sprint Nextel hasn’t been able to maintain Nextel’s ARPU let alone
Sprint's. The combined company reported ARPU of $61 in the third
quarter.

On the other hand, Verizon and Cingular’s figures have remained
steady. Verizon reported ARPU of $50.59 and Cingular reported ARPU of
$49.76 during the same period.

In an attempt to cut expenses, Sprint Nextel is slashing its
workforce to 59,600, about an 8% reduction expected to happen mostly
this quarter.

Trimming its payroll is one way it’s attempting to fix its financial
problems, but the company clearly is betting its future on wireless
broadband services, namely EV-DO Revision A and WiMAX.

The company says its capital expenditures will be about $8.5 billion
in 2007, $1.4 billion more than in 2006. The majority of that will be
spent on expanding its wireless broadband networks.

But the company’s laser focus on wireless broadband seems to be
hurting the carrier in the short term.

Some have speculated that the company has not maintained the Nextel
network, services or customer service. Reports say that the majority
of customers leaving Sprint stem from the Nextel side of the house,
hence the loss of Nextel’s high ARPU.

[MORE]

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In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:20:48 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
> >[SNIP]
>
> Reality check:

not reality, john, what you did was denial.

[...]

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:20:48 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote in <[email protected]>:

> >Verizon passed Cingular in retail subscribers by half a million.
>
> That's just a guess. Only time will tell whether it's true or not.

you're in denial john

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 11:20:43 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:20:48 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
>>> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>>
>>>> Verizon passed Cingular in retail subscribers by half a million.
>>> That's just a guess. Only time will tell whether it's true or not.
>>
>> you're in denial john
>
>My g-d, why do you all keep replying to his crap? Kill file him and be
>done with it. He thrives on the attention he gets by making his
>nonsensical statements. He exists to be obnoxious and disruptive, and by
>not kill-filing him you encourage him to continue in this type of behavior.

You've described yourself very well indeed, but kill filing is of course
childish -- it's apparently just too painful to see your fantasies
exposed.

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John Navas wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 11:20:43 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
>> james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:20:48 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>>>>> Verizon passed Cingular in retail subscribers by half a million.
>>>> That's just a guess. Only time will tell whether it's true or not.
>>> you're in denial john
>> My g-d, why do you all keep replying to his crap? Kill file him and be
>> done with it. He thrives on the attention he gets by making his
>> nonsensical statements. He exists to be obnoxious and disruptive, and by
>> not kill-filing him you encourage him to continue in this type of behavior.
>
> You've described yourself very well indeed, but kill filing is of course
> childish -- it's apparently just too painful to see your fantasies
> exposed.

Huh?

How is kill filing childish?

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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:20:48 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
>> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
>>> Verizon passed Cingular in retail subscribers by half a million.
>> That's just a guess. Only time will tell whether it's true or not.
>
> you're in denial john

My g-d, why do you all keep replying to his crap? Kill file him and be
done with it. He thrives on the attention he gets by making his
nonsensical statements. He exists to be obnoxious and disruptive, and by
not kill-filing him you encourage him to continue in this type of behavior.

John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:20:48 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote in <[email protected]>:
>
>>[SNIP]
>
> Reality check:
>
> Sprint still struggling to make Nextel merger work
> Revenue expected to remain flat and big layoffs
> coming for wireless carrier.
> By Denise Pappalardo, NetworkWorld.com, 01/09/07
> <http://www.networkworld.com/news/200...el-earnings.ht
> ml>
>

A four month old article? May be you should take your head out of your ass
and look at more recent events.