Cingular 8525 phone

I'm about to come into a Cingular 8525 phone,
and have a decision to make.

1. Use it, then sell it on ebay when iPhone comes out in ~ 2 months.
($350 ?)

2. Sell it new in Box for top dollar on ebay. ($425 ?)


Anyone with experience with this "SmartPhone " ?


I do know one needs to ask for the SmartPhone Connect Plan (at $19.99
/month); rather than be sold a more expensive data plan.

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At 12 Apr 2007 11:13:50 -0400 Don Udel (ETC) wrote:
> I have the 8125 version of the phone. It's a great phone. Use it at
> your
> own risk though, because the iPhone will be major step down in
> functionality
> (IMHO).

That won't matter to the OP- he's an Apple man through and through. If
you cut him, he bleeds cider instead of blood! ;-)

I'll second your entire post, Don. I was going to write a similar one,
but
you saved me the trouble! I have the T-Mobile MDA (T-Mo's version of the
8125, which are both HTC "Wizards.") Since T-Mo hasn't gone 3G yet, they
don't offer a version of the 8525 (aka the HTC Tytn.)

If one doesn't mind a few small bugs, "leaked" pre-release versions of
WM6 are all over the net for these HTC devices. (Check out xda-
developers.com for info.) I've been using the "X-plore 1.1" ROM for a
few days, and it's good- certainly the least buggy WM6 version of the 4
or 5 I've tried. (Probably no more buggy than the "real" WM5 T-Mo ROM
that came with my device!)

WM6 is certainly "prettier," FINALLY adds HTML e-mail to the Messaging app,

and uses the new internet sharing app (instead of "Modem Link") that
makes using the device as a GPRS modem much easier- pretty much plug-n-
play. Memory handling seems a little better- I see less memory "leaking"
from available memory throughout the day.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:26:54 -0400, "Don Udel \(ETC\)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> At 12 Apr 2007 11:13:50 -0400 Don Udel (ETC) wrote:
>>> I have the 8125 version of the phone. It's a great phone. Use it at
>>> your
>>> own risk though, because the iPhone will be major step down in
>>> functionality
>>> (IMHO).
>>
>> That won't matter to the OP- he's an Apple man through and through. If
>> you cut him, he bleeds cider instead of blood! ;-)
>>
>> I'll second your entire post, Don. I was going to write a similar one,
>> but
>> you saved me the trouble! I have the T-Mobile MDA (T-Mo's version of the
>> 8125, which are both HTC "Wizards.") Since T-Mo hasn't gone 3G yet, they
>> don't offer a version of the 8525 (aka the HTC Tytn.)
>>
>> If one doesn't mind a few small bugs, "leaked" pre-release versions of
>> WM6 are all over the net for these HTC devices. (Check out xda-
>> developers.com for info.) I've been using the "X-plore 1.1" ROM for a
>> few days, and it's good- certainly the least buggy WM6 version of the 4
>> or 5 I've tried. (Probably no more buggy than the "real" WM5 T-Mo ROM
>> that came with my device!)
>>
>> WM6 is certainly "prettier," FINALLY adds HTML e-mail to the Messaging
>> app,
>>
>> and uses the new internet sharing app (instead of "Modem Link") that
>> makes using the device as a GPRS modem much easier- pretty much plug-n-
>> play. Memory handling seems a little better- I see less memory "leaking"
>> from available memory throughout the day.
>>
>>
>Todd,
>
>I realize the OP is an apple bigot ;-) but the truth is (IMHO), that the
>iPhone is a step down in functionality from the 8x25. Cingular did a good
>thing hooking up with the HTC products. I'll second xda-developers.com!
>They were one of the sites I was thinking of when I mentioned there is lots
>of software available and registry entries that will make the 8x25 sing and
>dance the way YOU want it to.
>
>I'm using WM6 (Crossbow) for another application development project.. I
>like the way it handles memory and multi tasking over WM5. The app set it
>comes with is also an improvment over WM5 (but then WM5 was an improvement
>over WM4!).
>
>The OP is welcome to his iPhone when it comes out. You couldn't get me to
>make that switch. He's probably better off never getting a taste of the
>8x25 phones and getting his version 1.0 iPhone.
>
>Don
>


The WM5 on the 8525 might as well be Vista Mobile, its such a piece of
Bloatware, as opposed to a user friendly Palm OS or IPhone OS.

It'll be on Ebay tomorrow, as soon as Cingular provides the SIM it was
supposed to come with.

Even though it runs fine on the $19.99 SmartPhone Connect Plan,
Cingular CSRs are told to sell you the $39.99 PDA Connect Unlimited,
and lie that the cheaper plan wont handle true html.

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:


>
> Even though it runs fine on the $19.99 SmartPhone Connect Plan,
> Cingular CSRs are told to sell you the $39.99 PDA Connect Unlimited,
> and lie that the cheaper plan wont handle true html.
>

Oooo- let me guess- more secret insider information that you have acquired?

The Great Cellular Conspiracy continues...

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:34:50 -0500, Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>[email protected] wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Even though it runs fine on the $19.99 SmartPhone Connect Plan,
>>> Cingular CSRs are told to sell you the $39.99 PDA Connect Unlimited,
>>> and lie that the cheaper plan wont handle true html.
>>>
>>
>>Oooo- let me guess- more secret insider information that you have
>>acquired?
>>
>>The Great Cellular Conspiracy continues...
>
>
> Sorry, merely sitting in a VP's office while he called his Supervisor
> of CSRs, and then reading Cingular's own online Discussion Groups.

Really? I met with the Pope today and had lunch with J-Lo.

>
> If you weren't so busy trashing Cingular, you could learn a thing or
> two there.

When have I trashed Cingular? Don't take my dislike for your lies and
Navas' lack of a clue for anything against Cingular. You need to come up
for air ocassionally- nobody was meant to have their head up their a$$ for
such a lengthy period of time.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:46:25 -0500, Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:34:50 -0500, Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>[email protected] wrote in
>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even though it runs fine on the $19.99 SmartPhone Connect Plan,
>>>> Cingular CSRs are told to sell you the $39.99 PDA Connect Unlimited,
>>>> and lie that the cheaper plan wont handle true html.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Oooo- let me guess- more secret insider information that you have
>>>acquired?
>>>
>>>The Great Cellular Conspiracy continues...
>>
>>
>> Sorry, merely sitting in a VP's office while he called his Supervisor
>> of CSRs, and then reading Cingular's own online Discussion Groups.
>
>Really? I met with the Pope today and had lunch with J-Lo.
>
>>
>> If you weren't so busy trashing Cingular, you could learn a thing or
>> two there.
>
>When have I trashed Cingular? Don't take my dislike for your lies and
>Navas' lack of a clue for anything against Cingular. You need to come up
>for air ocassionally- nobody was meant to have their head up their a$$ for
>such a lengthy period of time.
>


I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other side
instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to childish
insults. You're just like Navas.

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:


>
>
> I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other side
> instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to childish
> insults. You're just like Navas.
>

What kind of URL are you looking for, moron? How would I refute such an
obvious lie with a URL?

The fact is that no URL is neede for you- you trash your own credibility
with your conspiracy theories and very baltent and obvious lies.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:10:22 -0500, Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>
>>
>> I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other side
>> instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to childish
>> insults. You're just like Navas.
>>
>
>What kind of URL are you looking for, moron? How would I refute such an
>obvious lie with a URL?
>
>The fact is that no URL is neede for you- you trash your own credibility
>with your conspiracy theories and very baltent and obvious lies.


Thats right continue with childish insults, and make sure you delete
the link I put in.

reading Cingular's own online Discussion Groups.

If Scott wqasn't so busy trashing Cingular,, he could learn a thing or
two there.

http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board...=206810#M26984


Where's your URL with different info on the 8525 ??

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:31:01 -0500, [email protected] wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board...=206810#M26984

Unfortunately, there's a good deal of misinformation there; e.g., the
claim you can't do streaming data through MEdia wap.cingular -- I'm
streaming both Internet radio and video.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:00:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote in
<[email protected]>:

>I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other side
>instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to childish
>insults. ...

That is indeed strong evidence. Funny how those doing the insults don't
see how they only serve to make themselves look bad.

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:35:56 -0500, Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:10:22 -0500, Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>[email protected] wrote in
>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other
>>>> side instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to
>>>> childish insults. You're just like Navas.
>>>>
>>>
>>>What kind of URL are you looking for, moron? How would I refute such
>>>an obvious lie with a URL?
>>>
>>>The fact is that no URL is neede for you- you trash your own
>>>credibility with your conspiracy theories and very baltent and obvious
>>>lies.
>>
>>
>> Thats right continue with childish insults, and make sure you delete
>> the link I put in.
>>
>> reading Cingular's own online Discussion Groups.
>>
>> If Scott wqasn't so busy trashing Cingular,, he could learn a thing or
>> two there.
>
>Lies, but you'll just clip out the truth- you always do.
>
>>
>> http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board...ngular&message.
>> id=26984&query.id=206810#M26984
>\
>
>An unmoderated message board is hardly authoritative, you twit. And it
>certainly is not stated as company policy.
>
>I thought you heard about this in the VP's office??
>
>>
>>
>> Where's your URL with different info on the 8525 ??
>>
>>


Still with childish insults instead of any information to the
contrary.

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:24:16 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:00:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote in
><[email protected]>:
>
>>I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other side
>>instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to childish
>>insults. ...
>
>That is indeed strong evidence. Funny how those doing the insults don't
>see how they only serve to make themselves look bad.


Exactly, except often Navas is guilty of same when he is proven wrong,
as in integrating the ATTWS network into Cingular which he had told us
would be easy and done by the end of 2006, but now tells us its not
done yet.

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:22:51 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:31:01 -0500, [email protected] wrote in
><[email protected]>:
>
>>http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board...=206810#M26984
>
>Unfortunately, there's a good deal of misinformation there; e.g., the
>claim you can't do streaming data through MEdia wap.cingular -- I'm
>streaming both Internet radio and video.


If you continue on you find there is a difference between the MediaNet
or SmartPhone Connect (which go through a Cingular Proxy) and the more
expensive PDA Connect which allows direct Internet Connection.

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:


>
> Still with childish insults instead of any information to the
> contrary.
>

Nothing to counter- the opinion of an average user (which is what you
precious link was) is hardly authoritative, as you claim it is.

John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
news[email protected]:

> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:00:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote in
> <[email protected]>:
>
>>I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other side
>>instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to childish
>>insults. ...
>
> That is indeed strong evidence.

The only thing it is strong revidence of (where you are both concerned) is
your inabiility to engage in a dialogue, Throw in the lies and attempts to
mislead that both of you are guilty of and you have a recipe for people
thinking very unhighly of you. The only reason some of respond is to
prevent the casual reader of these groups from thinking that your opinions
and fables are actually fact.

> Funny how those doing the insults don't
> see how they only serve to make themselves look bad.
>

Now that's funny coming from you.