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  1. #1
    Dick
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    Tomorrow I am going to purchase a replacement for my aging V551 (which
    has been a great phone.) I have zeroed in on the Motorola KRZR K1 and
    the V3xx. They both appear to be great phones, and have good ratings
    in the reviews. The KRZR is smaller and has a 2.0 MP camera, but
    costs more. The V3xx has more built-in memory, but is missing GSM
    900. Seems like kind of a toss-up between the two. What should I
    take into consideration in deciding between them?

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  2. #2
    SMS
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    Dick wrote:
    > Tomorrow I am going to purchase a replacement for my aging V551 (which
    > has been a great phone.) I have zeroed in on the Motorola KRZR K1 and
    > the V3xx. They both appear to be great phones, and have good ratings
    > in the reviews. The KRZR is smaller and has a 2.0 MP camera, but
    > costs more. The V3xx has more built-in memory, but is missing GSM
    > 900. Seems like kind of a toss-up between the two. What should I
    > take into consideration in deciding between them?


    If you have no intention of ever roaming or using the phone in Asia or
    Europe then the lack of 900 MHz isn't an issue. If you do have that
    intention, then the lack of 900 MHz is a deal-breaker.



  3. #3
    Dick
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:23:07 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Dick wrote:
    >> Tomorrow I am going to purchase a replacement for my aging V551 (which
    >> has been a great phone.) I have zeroed in on the Motorola KRZR K1 and
    >> the V3xx. They both appear to be great phones, and have good ratings
    >> in the reviews. The KRZR is smaller and has a 2.0 MP camera, but
    >> costs more. The V3xx has more built-in memory, but is missing GSM
    >> 900. Seems like kind of a toss-up between the two. What should I
    >> take into consideration in deciding between them?

    >
    >If you have no intention of ever roaming or using the phone in Asia or
    >Europe then the lack of 900 MHz isn't an issue. If you do have that
    >intention, then the lack of 900 MHz is a deal-breaker.


    I always think it is important to me because my son's family is in
    Germany, and I might want to get a German SIM when we are over there.
    However, really don't need to as they all have cell phones and we are
    always with one of them. I guess other features of the two phones
    would be more important.

    What about roaming in the U.S.? We travel a lot. Is 900 GSM ever
    used here?

    Dick

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  4. #4
    John Navas
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:23:07 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
    wrote in <[email protected]>:

    >Dick wrote:
    >> Tomorrow I am going to purchase a replacement for my aging V551 (which
    >> has been a great phone.) I have zeroed in on the Motorola KRZR K1 and
    >> the V3xx. They both appear to be great phones, and have good ratings
    >> in the reviews. The KRZR is smaller and has a 2.0 MP camera, but
    >> costs more. The V3xx has more built-in memory, but is missing GSM
    >> 900. Seems like kind of a toss-up between the two. What should I
    >> take into consideration in deciding between them?

    >
    >If you have no intention of ever roaming or using the phone in Asia or
    >Europe then the lack of 900 MHz isn't an issue. If you do have that
    >intention, then the lack of 900 MHz is a deal-breaker.


    Not really, depending on where you're talking about.

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  5. #5
    John Navas
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:02:05 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
    wrote in <[email protected]>:

    >Dick wrote:
    >
    >> What about roaming in the U.S.? We travel a lot. Is 900 GSM ever
    >> used here?


    >No.
    >
    >In the U.S., the primary GSM and CDMA band is 800 MHz (sometimes called
    >850 MHz for GSM) and the secondary, less desirable band, is 1900 MHz,
    >also called PCS.


    Both bands are primary and equally desirable.

    >In Europe and Asia, the primary band is 900 MHz, and the secondary is
    >1800 MHz. It'd be a pain to have to find a European or Asian carrier
    >that is at 1800 MHz. They exist in some countries, but the coverage is
    >usually not as good.


    1800 actually works quite well in many places.

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  6. #6
    John Navas
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:46:41 -0700, Dick <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >Tomorrow I am going to purchase a replacement for my aging V551 (which
    >has been a great phone.) I have zeroed in on the Motorola KRZR K1 and
    >the V3xx. They both appear to be great phones, and have good ratings
    >in the reviews. The KRZR is smaller and has a 2.0 MP camera, but
    >costs more. The V3xx has more built-in memory, but is missing GSM
    >900. Seems like kind of a toss-up between the two. What should I
    >take into consideration in deciding between them?


    The KRZR K1 is only EGPRS(EDGE).
    The RAZR V3xx is HSDPA, which is much faster.
    If you care about data speed, then the V3xx is a no brainer.
    Or wait for the KRZR K3.

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  7. #7
    Dick
    Guest

    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 04:59:39 GMT, John Navas
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:46:41 -0700, Dick <[email protected]> wrote in
    ><[email protected]>:
    >
    >>Tomorrow I am going to purchase a replacement for my aging V551 (which
    >>has been a great phone.) I have zeroed in on the Motorola KRZR K1 and
    >>the V3xx. They both appear to be great phones, and have good ratings
    >>in the reviews. The KRZR is smaller and has a 2.0 MP camera, but
    >>costs more. The V3xx has more built-in memory, but is missing GSM
    >>900. Seems like kind of a toss-up between the two. What should I
    >>take into consideration in deciding between them?

    >
    >The KRZR K1 is only EGPRS(EDGE).
    >The RAZR V3xx is HSDPA, which is much faster.
    >If you care about data speed, then the V3xx is a no brainer.
    >Or wait for the KRZR K3.


    John -

    What about fringe-area performance of the KRZR vs V3xx? Living out
    here in the wild west, that's probably the most important
    characteristic for us. We have been reasonably happy with our Moto
    V551 and V557, but could always use a little more distance.

    Dick

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  8. #8
    John Navas
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:02:10 -0700, Dick <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 04:59:39 GMT, John Navas
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:46:41 -0700, Dick <[email protected]> wrote in
    >><[email protected]>:
    >>
    >>>Tomorrow I am going to purchase a replacement for my aging V551 (which
    >>>has been a great phone.) I have zeroed in on the Motorola KRZR K1 and
    >>>the V3xx. They both appear to be great phones, and have good ratings
    >>>in the reviews. The KRZR is smaller and has a 2.0 MP camera, but
    >>>costs more. The V3xx has more built-in memory, but is missing GSM
    >>>900. Seems like kind of a toss-up between the two. What should I
    >>>take into consideration in deciding between them?

    >>
    >>The KRZR K1 is only EGPRS(EDGE).
    >>The RAZR V3xx is HSDPA, which is much faster.
    >>If you care about data speed, then the V3xx is a no brainer.
    >>Or wait for the KRZR K3.


    >What about fringe-area performance of the KRZR vs V3xx? Living out
    >here in the wild west, that's probably the most important
    >characteristic for us. We have been reasonably happy with our Moto
    >V551 and V557, but could always use a little more distance.


    The ZRZR K1 and RAZR V3xx performed roughly the same for me, and both
    are at least as good as the V551, but the V3xx has the advantage of 3G,
    which gives it better coverage in some parts of Northern California than
    non-3G handsets.

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  9. #9
    SMS
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    Dick wrote:

    <snip>

    > What about fringe-area performance of the KRZR vs V3xx? Living out
    > here in the wild west, that's probably the most important
    > characteristic for us. We have been reasonably happy with our Moto
    > V551 and V557, but could always use a little more distance.


    If you cared about fringe area performance you'd be on whatever the 800
    MHz CDMA carrier is in your area.



  10. #10
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:44:08 -0700, SMS <[email protected]>
    wrote in <[email protected]>:

    >Dick wrote:
    >
    ><snip>
    >
    >> What about fringe-area performance of the KRZR vs V3xx? Living out
    >> here in the wild west, that's probably the most important
    >> characteristic for us. We have been reasonably happy with our Moto
    >> V551 and V557, but could always use a little more distance.

    >
    >If you cared about fringe area performance you'd be on whatever the 800
    >MHz CDMA carrier is in your area.


    Not really -- the RAZR V3xx outperforms CDMA2000 handsets in general
    here in the San Francisco Bay Area.

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  11. #11

    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    Dick <[email protected]> wrote:
    > What about fringe-area performance of the KRZR vs V3xx? Living out
    > here in the wild west, that's probably the most important
    > characteristic for us. We have been reasonably happy with our Moto
    > V551 and V557, but could always use a little more distance.


    I find that the V3xx is not as good as the V551. Some experimentation
    seems to indicate that pointing the bottom of the phone toward the tower
    gives the best reception, which is not very handy for talking, unless you
    are on Bluetooth.

    It seems that the Bluetooth conversation suffers in poor
    signal areas (H670), although it is fine in stronger signal areas.

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  12. #12
    jdoe
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    Krazr and V3xx about the same in fringe area. krazr menus are sloooooow and
    phone tools refuses to work with it (krazr) while it works just fine with
    V3xx or V3.
    <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Dick <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> What about fringe-area performance of the KRZR vs V3xx? Living out
    >> here in the wild west, that's probably the most important
    >> characteristic for us. We have been reasonably happy with our Moto
    >> V551 and V557, but could always use a little more distance.

    >
    > I find that the V3xx is not as good as the V551. Some experimentation
    > seems to indicate that pointing the bottom of the phone toward the tower
    > gives the best reception, which is not very handy for talking, unless you
    > are on Bluetooth.
    >
    > It seems that the Bluetooth conversation suffers in poor
    > signal areas (H670), although it is fine in stronger signal areas.
    >
    > --
    > Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5






  13. #13
    John Navas
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    On Wed, 30 May 2007 16:43:29 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >Dick <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> What about fringe-area performance of the KRZR vs V3xx? Living out
    >> here in the wild west, that's probably the most important
    >> characteristic for us. We have been reasonably happy with our Moto
    >> V551 and V557, but could always use a little more distance.

    >
    >I find that the V3xx is not as good as the V551. Some experimentation
    >seems to indicate that pointing the bottom of the phone toward the tower
    >gives the best reception, which is not very handy for talking, unless you
    >are on Bluetooth.


    You might want to try a different phone before giving up on the V3xx --
    my own V3xx has significantly better reception than any of several
    V551's I've compared it to, both on voice and on data.

    >It seems that the Bluetooth conversation suffers in poor
    >signal areas (H670), although it is fine in stronger signal areas.


    No such problem with my H700 headset. It really sounds like you've got
    a defective V3xx.

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  14. #14
    Todd H.
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    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx

    "jdoe" <[email protected]> writes:

    > Krazr and V3xx about the same in fringe area. krazr menus are
    > sloooooow


    No, v3c menus were sloooooow. :-) In comparison, the Krazr is
    positively zippy.

    > and phone tools refuses to work with it (krazr) while it works just
    > fine with V3xx or V3.


    I'm gonna have to cry "bull****" here I'm afraid. Either PhoneTools
    has been fixed since you last used it and you haven't updated, or you
    did something wrong.

    I say this because I just successfully used an updated Phonetools to
    pull photos and videos off two Cingular Krazr K1's on a win2k machine
    via usb.

    Now, you do have to run updates (from a not intuitively located tools
    menu at least once) several times to get the software to the latest
    when installing from an older CD though.

    In the Motorola Phone Tools go to Menus and then Setup and then click
    on Live update. And I think I went through 3 or 4 update iterations
    before it said I was at the latest. After that, it found the K1 with
    no problem.

    Best Regards,
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    http://toddh.net/



  15. #15
    jack flash
    Guest

    Re: KRZR K1 vs V3xx


    >> and phone tools refuses to work with it (krazr) while it works just
    >> fine with V3xx or V3.

    >
    > I'm gonna have to cry "bull****" here I'm afraid. Either PhoneTools
    > has been fixed since you last used it and you haven't updated, or you
    > did something wrong.
    >
    > I say this because I just successfully used an updated Phonetools to
    > pull photos and videos off two Cingular Krazr K1's on a win2k machine
    > via usb.


    in my personal experience with MPT and KRZR, there is a problem with
    earlier revs of MPT updating to v4.51c. My initial MPT copy was 4.04b
    and I had one heck of a time getting KRZR working after updating. I now
    have MPT 4.51c and it works like a charm. I uninstalled MPT from my
    systems and did a fresh install of v4.51c and it is much faster.



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