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- 05-09-2007, 06:58 PM #1Juan PabloGuest
Question about 8525 with this activated condition:
Activated with ONLY a "regular" voice plan - NO extra media
or data add-ons......
Is it possible to still be able to access the Web sites via
the built-in FREE wireless Wi-Fi using Internet Explorer to
Internet Web sites?
I temporarily have in my possession a 8525 using my SIM card
from a regular Cingular voice phone activated for a regular
voice-type plan.
I can make regular voice and texting calls with the 8525.
I can also "cruise the Web" OK via Cingular 3G here.
And, yes this does incur extra monthly per-kilobytes billing
charges, as expected.
HOWEVER........
When I turn-on the Wireless feature.
I can access neighborhood Wi-Fi Access Points, including my
own.
AND, I can "see" the 8525 in my router's network Log when
connected to my own wireless network access point.
However, when I command Internet Explorer to go to an
Internet Web site such as Google, Ebay, "whatever", IE just
"hangs" stating the term: "Locating............." until it
eventually all times-out, and goes "nowhere".
The reason I am asking is that I have a strong suspicion
that Cingular/ATT locks-out that FREE Wi-Fi accessing
feature unless your plan also includes Media or Data
add-ons.
I also have an activated Sprint (HTC) PCS PPC-6700 which is
very similar in concept to the (HTC) 8525.
However, the Sprint logo-ed 6700 is entirely able to access
the FREE Internet Web sites via it's Wireless feature, both
when it was NOT yet activated, and now activated with only a
voice-only Sprint plan.
(Yes, as Cingular does, Sprint will charge an additional
per-kilobytes usage charge for using it's 1-X and EVDO
systems when not activated with Vision media or Data plans.)
Should the 8525 still be able to access FREE Wi-Fi Internet
when only using an activated voice-only plan?
Thanks for any comments. ---Juan
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- 05-09-2007, 07:21 PM #2Todd AllcockGuest
Re: 8525 - Is FREE Wi-Fi Possible With This Condition?
At 10 May 2007 00:58:09 +0000 Juan Pablo wrote:
> Question about 8525 with this activated condition:
>
> Activated with ONLY a "regular" voice plan - NO extra media
> or data add-ons......
>
> Is it possible to still be able to access the Web sites via
> the built-in FREE wireless Wi-Fi using Internet Explorer to
> Internet Web sites?
Yes. You just needto configure the Connections settings properly. In
the "advanced" tab of the Connections applet, select "Select Networks"
and change both options to "My Work Network" save it and reboot.
> HOWEVER........
>
> When I turn-on the Wireless feature.
> I can access neighborhood Wi-Fi Access Points, including my
> own.
> AND, I can "see" the 8525 in my router's network Log when
> connected to my own wireless network access point.
> However, when I command Internet Explorer to go to an
> Internet Web site such as Google, Ebay, "whatever", IE just
> "hangs" stating the term: "Locating............." until it
> eventually all times-out, and goes "nowhere".
>
> The reason I am asking is that I have a strong suspicion
> that Cingular/ATT locks-out that FREE Wi-Fi accessing
> feature unless your plan also includes Media or Data
> add-ons.
No, not at all- they've just pre-configured the phone for Cingular's data
service's proxy server.
Configuring for switching automatically is a little difficult because of
Cingular's proxy. (When Wi-Fi is avilable, th phone still tries to use
the proxy, which isn't available over Wi-Fi.)
On my T-Mo PDA phone (T-Mo also uses a proxy) I have the first nework
selection set to My Work Network and the second to T-Mobile Data. This
allows IE to use wi-fi first, or cellular data if unavailable, but the
messaging app only uses cellular data (which is ok with me- I have an
unlimited plan.)
> Should the 8525 still be able to access FREE Wi-Fi Internet
> when only using an activated voice-only plan?
>
Yes, when configured correctly.
- 05-10-2007, 12:20 AM #3JackzwickGuest
Re: 8525 - Is FREE Wi-Fi Possible With This Condition?
In article <[email protected]>,
Juan Pablo <jsps999(DELETE THIS SECTION)@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Question about 8525 with this activated condition:
>
> Activated with ONLY a "regular" voice plan - NO extra media
> or data add-ons......
>
> Is it possible to still be able to access the Web sites via
> the built-in FREE wireless Wi-Fi using Internet Explorer to
> Internet Web sites?
>
> I temporarily have in my possession a 8525 using my SIM card
> from a regular Cingular voice phone activated for a regular
> voice-type plan.
> I can make regular voice and texting calls with the 8525.
> I can also "cruise the Web" OK via Cingular 3G here.
> And, yes this does incur extra monthly per-kilobytes billing
> charges, as expected.
>
> HOWEVER........
>
> When I turn-on the Wireless feature.
> I can access neighborhood Wi-Fi Access Points, including my
> own.
> AND, I can "see" the 8525 in my router's network Log when
> connected to my own wireless network access point.
> However, when I command Internet Explorer to go to an
> Internet Web site such as Google, Ebay, "whatever", IE just
> "hangs" stating the term: "Locating............." until it
> eventually all times-out, and goes "nowhere".
You need to tell it a DNS.
>
> The reason I am asking is that I have a strong suspicion
> that Cingular/ATT locks-out that FREE Wi-Fi accessing
> feature unless your plan also includes Media or Data
> add-ons.
>
> I also have an activated Sprint (HTC) PCS PPC-6700 which is
> very similar in concept to the (HTC) 8525.
> However, the Sprint logo-ed 6700 is entirely able to access
> the FREE Internet Web sites via it's Wireless feature, both
> when it was NOT yet activated, and now activated with only a
> voice-only Sprint plan.
> (Yes, as Cingular does, Sprint will charge an additional
> per-kilobytes usage charge for using it's 1-X and EVDO
> systems when not activated with Vision media or Data plans.)
>
> Should the 8525 still be able to access FREE Wi-Fi Internet
> when only using an activated voice-only plan?
>
> Thanks for any comments. ---Juan
- 05-14-2007, 12:13 PM #4Juan PabloGuest
Re: 8525 - Is FREE Wi-Fi Possible With This Condition?
On Wed, 09 May 2007 19:21:57 -0600, Todd Allcock
<[email protected]> wrote:
>At 10 May 2007 00:58:09 +0000 Juan Pablo wrote:
>> Question about 8525 with this activated condition:
>>
>> Activated with ONLY a "regular" voice plan - NO extra media
>> or data add-ons......
>>
>> Is it possible to still be able to access the Web sites via
>> the built-in FREE wireless Wi-Fi using Internet Explorer to
>> Internet Web sites?
>
>
>Yes. You just needto configure the Connections settings properly. In
>the "advanced" tab of the Connections applet, select "Select Networks"
>and change both options to "My Work Network" save it and reboot.
>
>
>> HOWEVER........
>>
>> When I turn-on the Wireless feature.
>> I can access neighborhood Wi-Fi Access Points, including my
>> own.
>> AND, I can "see" the 8525 in my router's network Log when
>> connected to my own wireless network access point.
>> However, when I command Internet Explorer to go to an
>> Internet Web site such as Google, Ebay, "whatever", IE just
>> "hangs" stating the term: "Locating............." until it
>> eventually all times-out, and goes "nowhere".
>>
>> The reason I am asking is that I have a strong suspicion
>> that Cingular/ATT locks-out that FREE Wi-Fi accessing
>> feature unless your plan also includes Media or Data
>> add-ons.
>
>
>No, not at all- they've just pre-configured the phone for Cingular's data
>service's proxy server.
>
>Configuring for switching automatically is a little difficult because of
>Cingular's proxy. (When Wi-Fi is avilable, th phone still tries to use
>the proxy, which isn't available over Wi-Fi.)
>
>On my T-Mo PDA phone (T-Mo also uses a proxy) I have the first nework
>selection set to My Work Network and the second to T-Mobile Data. This
>allows IE to use wi-fi first, or cellular data if unavailable, but the
>messaging app only uses cellular data (which is ok with me- I have an
>unlimited plan.)
>
>
>> Should the 8525 still be able to access FREE Wi-Fi Internet
>> when only using an activated voice-only plan?
>>
>
>Yes, when configured correctly.
>
Thanks. That did it!
When I re-configured BOTH menus to "My Work Network" at:
Start/Settings/Connections/Connections/Advanced/Select
Networks, then the Wi-Fi would function OK with Internet
Explorer.
What misguided me was that the very similar Win. Mobile 5.0
in my (Sprint) PPC-6700 has it defaulted as "SPRINT"
selected in the 1st menu, and "My Work Network" selected in
the 2nd menu.
Apparently for some unknown (nice) reason the Win. Mobile
5.0 in the (Sprint version) PPC-6700 is able to
automatically recognize when a User accesses either the
Sprint data services or any Wi-Fi access points.
So -- should I decide to ever use the Cingular data services
with a 8525, apparently I must then manually go back to:
Start/Settings/Connections/Connections/Advanced/Select
Networks, and re-select "Cingular" for that 1st menu.
Thanks again for that info! ---Juan
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