Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

none wrote:
> Kurt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Probably would've been a better move by Apple from the get-go. At
>>> least people don't expect to be able to use an
>>> iPod like a pocket computer, unlike the iPhone which screams "look!
>>> I'm a PDA" but can't run software.
>> The iPhone simply screams, "Look, I'm a really cool multi-function phone
>> where everything is easy to use and intuitive."
>>
>> That's what people have been waiting for. That's why it's selling.
>
> 100% correct, and that's why it has become the fastest selling cell
> phone in history.

You don't think "hype" had anything to do with it?

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Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:

> >>> Probably would've been a better move by Apple from the get-go. At
> >>> least people don't expect to be able to use an
> >>> iPod like a pocket computer, unlike the iPhone which screams "look!
> >>> I'm a PDA" but can't run software.
> >> The iPhone simply screams, "Look, I'm a really cool multi-function phone
> >> where everything is easy to use and intuitive."
> >>
> >> That's what people have been waiting for. That's why it's selling.
> >
> > 100% correct, and that's why it has become the fastest selling cell
> > phone in history.
>
> You don't think "hype" had anything to do with it?

I don't think there was any "hype" surrounding the iPhone, just lots and
lots of actual/truthful information. Apple's ads were straight to the
point and lacking in any "hype". Watch them, it's very much "just the
facts".

http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/ad1/

The word "hype", would mean something that couldn't be delivered, or was
"grandiose"... and with the iPhone, everyone agrees that it delivers
exactly how Apple advertised it, BUT much more.

So if you want to get "technical" there was "less hype" that what the
product actually delivered.

Sure the media got a little carried away, but even with that, there was
little "hype" after the fact. the iPhone is easily the best smart phone
on the market, and everyone agrees with that.

none wrote:
> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
>
>>>>> Probably would've been a better move by Apple from the get-go. At
>>>>> least people don't expect to be able to use an
>>>>> iPod like a pocket computer, unlike the iPhone which screams "look!
>>>>> I'm a PDA" but can't run software.
>>>> The iPhone simply screams, "Look, I'm a really cool multi-function phone
>>>> where everything is easy to use and intuitive."
>>>>
>>>> That's what people have been waiting for. That's why it's selling.
>>> 100% correct, and that's why it has become the fastest selling cell
>>> phone in history.
>> You don't think "hype" had anything to do with it?
>
> I don't think there was any "hype" surrounding the iPhone, just lots and
> lots of actual/truthful information. Apple's ads were straight to the
> point and lacking in any "hype". Watch them, it's very much "just the
> facts".
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/ad1/
>
> The word "hype", would mean something that couldn't be delivered, or was
> "grandiose"... and with the iPhone, everyone agrees that it delivers
> exactly how Apple advertised it, BUT much more.
>
> So if you want to get "technical" there was "less hype" that what the
> product actually delivered.
>
> Sure the media got a little carried away, but even with that, there was
> little "hype" after the fact. the iPhone is easily the best smart phone
> on the market, and everyone agrees with that.

You were one of those people, waiting on line, weren't you? <g>

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[email protected] (Marc) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

How about one based on the Shuffle, for people who just want to talk
to somebody, but don't care who?

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"Notan" <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> none wrote:
>> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Probably would've been a better move by Apple from the get-go. At
>>>>>> least people don't expect to be able to use an
>>>>>> iPod like a pocket computer, unlike the iPhone which screams "look!
>>>>>> I'm a PDA" but can't run software.
>>>>> The iPhone simply screams, "Look, I'm a really cool multi-function
>>>>> phone where everything is easy to use and intuitive."
>>>>> That's what people have been waiting for. That's why it's selling.
>>>> 100% correct, and that's why it has become the fastest selling cell
>>>> phone in history.
>>> You don't think "hype" had anything to do with it?
>>
>> I don't think there was any "hype" surrounding the iPhone, just lots and
>> lots of actual/truthful information. Apple's ads were straight to the
>> point and lacking in any "hype". Watch them, it's very much "just the
>> facts".
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/ad1/
>>
>> The word "hype", would mean something that couldn't be delivered, or was
>> "grandiose"... and with the iPhone, everyone agrees that it delivers
>> exactly how Apple advertised it, BUT much more.
>>
>> So if you want to get "technical" there was "less hype" that what the
>> product actually delivered.
>>
>> Sure the media got a little carried away, but even with that, there was
>> little "hype" after the fact. the iPhone is easily the best smart phone
>> on the market, and everyone agrees with that.
>
> You were one of those people, waiting on line, weren't you? <g>
>
> --
> Notan

It's just a shame he wasn't waiting in line the day they were handing out
brains.

Bert Hyman wrote:
> [email protected] (Marc) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone
>
> How about one based on the Shuffle, for people who just want to talk
> to somebody, but don't care who?

Very nice! <g>

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At 10 Jul 2007 11:12:50 +0000 Brian wrote:

> >But analysts predict that a cheaper phone from Apple, which leads the
> >digital music player market, could pose a much bigger threat to
> >long-established phone makers such as Nokia, Motorola, Samsung
Electronics
> >and Sony Ericsson, owned by Sony and Ericsson.

> Verizon is so-o-o-o-o-o-o-o screwed.

Yep- just as soon as American consumers stop caring about coverage... ;-)


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Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:

> > The word "hype", would mean something that couldn't be delivered, or was
> > "grandiose"... and with the iPhone, everyone agrees that it delivers
> > exactly how Apple advertised it, BUT much more.
> >
> > So if you want to get "technical" there was "less hype" that what the
> > product actually delivered.
> >
> > Sure the media got a little carried away, but even with that, there was
> > little "hype" after the fact. the iPhone is easily the best smart phone
> > on the market, and everyone agrees with that.
>
> You were one of those people, waiting on line, weren't you? <g>

sure, i waited 8 hours, got 4 iphones and had a GREAT time, got lots of
free stuff during the day, met new people, quite a few hot chicks! and
didn't sense any hype at all during the day. yes, apple could be accused
of "excitement", but never "hype".

In article <[email protected]>,
Bert Hyman <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] (Marc) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone
>
> How about one based on the Shuffle, for people who just want to talk
> to somebody, but don't care who?

Did I mention that this is SO stolen for my sig files??

none wrote:
> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
>
>>> The word "hype", would mean something that couldn't be delivered, or was
>>> "grandiose"... and with the iPhone, everyone agrees that it delivers
>>> exactly how Apple advertised it, BUT much more.
>>>
>>> So if you want to get "technical" there was "less hype" that what the
>>> product actually delivered.
>>>
>>> Sure the media got a little carried away, but even with that, there was
>>> little "hype" after the fact. the iPhone is easily the best smart phone
>>> on the market, and everyone agrees with that.
>> You were one of those people, waiting on line, weren't you? <g>
>
> sure, i waited 8 hours, got 4 iphones and had a GREAT time, got lots of
> free stuff during the day, met new people, quite a few hot chicks! and
> didn't sense any hype at all during the day. yes, apple could be accused
> of "excitement", but never "hype".


My question was rhetorical, as supported by your response.

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none wrote:
>met new people, quite a few hot chicks!

Awesome Dude. I'm sure you'll be the only one in your 6'th grade class
with an iPhone.

At 10 Jul 2007 09:31:25 -0600 none wrote:

> first cell device to use Coverflow - that's very new.


True- it's pretty, but it isn't a new FUNCTION. All music-playing phones
let you choose content by "album" or "artist." New look, old function.

This seems to be the theme of these online "debates" over iPhone's
merits. The pro-iPhone crowd confuses new methodology with new
functionality, and the anti-iPhone crowd dismisses new interface and
design far to easily, since ease-of-use is critical in the actual use of
all of these "new" feature that aren't really new.

> first cell device to be directly linked to YouTube - that's very new.

YouTube launched a mobile service just prior to the iPhone launch.
(m.youtube.com) making YouTube available on many mobiles now. Arguably,
the creation of their mobile service was in preparation for the iPhone,
so thanks for that! ;-)


>
> first cell device to show the Actual Web - that's very new.

Except for flash/java. It's closer than most devices, but still not the
"actual web."

> first cell device to have your actual emails - that's very new.

Huh? HTML e-mail has been available on other devices. I've had it for
over a year, although admittedly I needed third-party software (the free
QMail) on my WM phone. Now I have it natively (WM6) via software update
as well.


> > Play online games....no, also forbidden
>
> you got one right! no games sorry, kiddos... i guess this is a big
> person's toy.

While the anti-iPhone posts here have been ridiculous, it's equally
ridiculous to dismiss as feature the iPhone lacks as unimportant or
useless. A lot of adults play mobile games as well.

Besides, you can't have it both ways- it doesn't have games, so it's not
for kids- it doesn't have full Exchange support, so it's not for
business. Who then is it for? Unemployed adults?

> > Run Windoze software....oops, sorry.
>
> and why would you ever want to do that?

Agreed- it has it's own perfectly good OS. Imagine the possibilities if
an SDK is ever released!

> > Run MAC software....no, it doesn't do that, either, I'm told.
>
> ah, it runs Mac software, what do you think each of those buttons does?

Runs _iPhone_ software- not _Mac_ software, otherwise Safari would hook
flash and java support and download it, like a Mac can. It's not a Mac,
and it isn't running Mac software- unless Macs are now using ARM-based
processors...

> > Do Palm Pilot "things"....no, no, that's not new any more
>
> like what?

Isn't syncing one-way on iPhone? (I'm asking- I haven't used on yet.)
Do contact and calendar changes upload to your computer?


> > Hmm...It's not a HDTV....
>
> It's actually higher quality than HDTV, a 1660dpi screen, the first of
> any cell phone.

Huh? How does 1660dpi come out to 320x480 unless the iPhone screen is
1/3"?


The iPhone resolution of 320x480 is certainly sufficient, however VGA
phones (640x480) predate the iPhone (ETEN makes a WM PPC phone for
Euro/Asian markets with a 3.5" VGA screen.) I'm happy enough with 320x240,
but more is always nicer.

> I just put real time, moving radar on mine. How about your cell phone,
> can it do this?
>
> http://apple.accuweather.com/widget/iphone1/iphone.html
>
> Nope!

Animated radar maps hav been available on WAP browsers for years, and
downloadable apps (generally not free, however) have displayed it on PPCs
and Treos for quite some time. Sadly, it seems, this is another example
of "making it easy makes it new." How many current "dumb-phone" users
know the wealth of easy-to-receive information that's been available on
their phones for years?

> So Larry, we have now discovered you are an idiot. Thanks for letting
> us know.

Larry is just making a semi-valid point. The iPhone is certainly
breaking some ground in ease of use, but it doesn't actually DO anything
that hasn't been done before.
It's the iPod all over again- existing technology made easier. There's
nothing wrong with that- it's a perfectly laudable goal in and of itself.
I just remember watching the Pirates/calamari iPhone commercial a few
weeks ago and my wife saying "your phone does all that, doesn't it?" The
irony was
that I had to tell her "so does yours!" (She has a T-Mobile Dash- a WM
Smartphone with a "hard" keyboard rather than a touchscreen.)

I'd bet she'd like the iPhone- if only AT&T had coverage where we live...



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In article <[email protected]>,
Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:

> none wrote:
> > Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> Probably would've been a better move by Apple from the get-go. At
> >>>>> least people don't expect to be able to use an
> >>>>> iPod like a pocket computer, unlike the iPhone which screams "look!
> >>>>> I'm a PDA" but can't run software.
> >>>> The iPhone simply screams, "Look, I'm a really cool multi-function phone
> >>>> where everything is easy to use and intuitive."
> >>>>
> >>>> That's what people have been waiting for. That's why it's selling.
> >>> 100% correct, and that's why it has become the fastest selling cell
> >>> phone in history.
> >> You don't think "hype" had anything to do with it?
> >
> > I don't think there was any "hype" surrounding the iPhone, just lots and
> > lots of actual/truthful information. Apple's ads were straight to the
> > point and lacking in any "hype". Watch them, it's very much "just the
> > facts".
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/ad1/
> >
> > The word "hype", would mean something that couldn't be delivered, or was
> > "grandiose"... and with the iPhone, everyone agrees that it delivers
> > exactly how Apple advertised it, BUT much more.
> >
> > So if you want to get "technical" there was "less hype" that what the
> > product actually delivered.
> >
> > Sure the media got a little carried away, but even with that, there was
> > little "hype" after the fact. the iPhone is easily the best smart phone
> > on the market, and everyone agrees with that.
>
> You were one of those people, waiting on line, weren't you? <g>

And then trying to sell them on eBay.

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In article <[email protected]>,
"MuahMan" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Notan" <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > none wrote:
> >> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> Probably would've been a better move by Apple from the get-go. At
> >>>>>> least people don't expect to be able to use an
> >>>>>> iPod like a pocket computer, unlike the iPhone which screams "look!
> >>>>>> I'm a PDA" but can't run software.
> >>>>> The iPhone simply screams, "Look, I'm a really cool multi-function
> >>>>> phone where everything is easy to use and intuitive."
> >>>>> That's what people have been waiting for. That's why it's selling.
> >>>> 100% correct, and that's why it has become the fastest selling cell
> >>>> phone in history.
> >>> You don't think "hype" had anything to do with it?
> >>
> >> I don't think there was any "hype" surrounding the iPhone, just lots and
> >> lots of actual/truthful information. Apple's ads were straight to the
> >> point and lacking in any "hype". Watch them, it's very much "just the
> >> facts".
> >>
> >> http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/ad1/
> >>
> >> The word "hype", would mean something that couldn't be delivered, or was
> >> "grandiose"... and with the iPhone, everyone agrees that it delivers
> >> exactly how Apple advertised it, BUT much more.
> >>
> >> So if you want to get "technical" there was "less hype" that what the
> >> product actually delivered.
> >>
> >> Sure the media got a little carried away, but even with that, there was
> >> little "hype" after the fact. the iPhone is easily the best smart phone
> >> on the market, and everyone agrees with that.
> >
> > You were one of those people, waiting on line, weren't you? <g>
> >
> > --
> > Notan
>
> It's just a shame he wasn't waiting in line the day they were handing out
> brains.

BTW- how is your Zune?

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Kurt <[email protected]> wrote:

> > You were one of those people, waiting on line, weren't you? <g>
>
> And then trying to sell them on eBay.

the gold mine of eBay won't happened until christmas, apple's
manufacturing prowess is just too strong, until even santa can't make
enough. then you get into a 4GB going for $1,100, 8GB $1,400 on December
20th or so.

my "educated" guess is Apple will sell 35 million iphones by Dec 31st
2007. this product is THAT good.

the only caveat is what will happen with the iPod line... if they
release a iPod with WiFi and Safari / Mail access, (no phone) the iPhone
will drop to 15 million sold by 12/20/07, but either way, Apple will hit
the 1% cell marketshare within this year, exactly according to
(internal) plan.