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  1. #46
    Jochem Huhmann
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> writes:

    > There exists a huge number of people that prefer a *great* phone that *only*
    > makes phone calls, over a *fairly good* phone that does a smattering of
    > *everything*.


    I bought a Motorola F3 ("Motofone") a month ago (30 EUR, unlocked) which
    does exactly that: phone calls and (if you have to) SMS.

    But I have to tell you that it's nice to have a choice what to buy. Give
    me an iPhone for that price and I'd buy it, too.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motofone -- quite the opposite of the iPhone


    Jochem

    --
    "A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
    longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
    - Antoine de Saint-Exupery



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  2. #47
    just bob
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone


    How about the iPhone Shuffle, which slects people to call at random?





  3. #48
    Notan
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Rod Speed wrote:
    > Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
    >> Tim Streater wrote:
    >>> In article <[email protected]>,
    >>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Brian <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>> On 9 Jul 2007, [email protected] (Marc) wrote:
    >>> [snip]
    >>>
    >>>>> Verizon is so-o-o-o-o-o-o-o screwed.
    >>>> Fantasy.
    >>>>
    >>>> The vast bulk of phone users want dirt cheap phones, you watch.
    >>>>
    >>>> The iphone is too big for anyone who doesnt want to browse the web
    >>>> and do email.
    >>> It seems to be about the same size as my PDA, which sits fine in my
    >>> pocket. Thing is, I don't need to spend that much on a phone. I got a
    >>> £50 pay as you go from Tesco and that does fine. No web ****, no
    >>> camera, no nothing. Just a freaking phone.

    >
    >> There exists a huge number of people that prefer a *great* phone that *only* makes phone calls,

    >
    > Bet there aint when the extras are free.
    >
    >> over a *fairly good* phone that does a smattering of *everything*.

    >
    > Usual mindless binary stuff. There's plenty of great phones that make
    > and receive phone calls well and do quite a bit of other stuff as well.
    >
    > Only a fool carts around a bag full of devices for the stuff that doesnt get done much,
    > but which is handy at times, even if its just when some fool has run into your car etc.


    One thing that one has to consider is if you *need* all the extras, and one breaks,
    you've lost everything while the device is being repaired. (Similar to purchasing
    an audio/video system... If your all-in-one breaks, you're SOL during repairs, while
    separate components allow you to continue using the functioning components.)

    --
    Notan



  4. #49
    none
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > those are just the easy "external" goals, but already 1 million in 7-8
    > > days, show the "internal" goals are right on track, and then some...
    > >
    > > my gut feeling is 22 million by xmas, but much depends on what the new
    > > ipods look / priced at.

    >
    > No, your gut feeling was 35 million, that you conveniently snipped from
    > this reply.


    no Justin, don't lie. If there are NO new iPods before christmas, 35
    million iPhones will be sold, but IF there are new iPods, my "gut"
    feeling is 22 million iPhones will be sold by xmas.

    > > but 10 million iphones by xmas, no problem. just like what was planned
    > > all along.

    >
    > So, by next week you'll be saying 5 million?


    ah, not sure what you mean, 10 million has always been the conservative
    estimate of iPhones sold by xmas of 2007, that's apple "internal" number.

    please keep up with the conversation, don't muddle it.



  5. #50
    none
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > >> > 1. Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion.
    > >>
    > >> Bingo!

    > >
    > > yes, you got one right! and which sheds no bad light on the iphone.
    > >
    > > it simply creates "interest", which is perfectly appropriate in this
    > > case.

    >
    > And that's hype. You idiot.


    but it is not "exaggeration", please learn the english language.



  6. #51
    none
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > but it is not "exaggeration", please learn the english language.

    >
    > Are you a complete moron?
    >
    > Where in "1. Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion."
    > does the word exaggeration exist?
    >
    > Of course, the speed of the iPhone and it's applications was exaggerated
    > in the commercials.


    but not on Apple's commercials, where was there ANY exaggeration in an
    Apple iPhone ad? Bet you can't find one.

    http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/ad1/

    Every thing is in perfect real time, and real examples. Learn about the
    iPhone, don't make things up to fit your ignorance.

    -



  7. #52
    Craig Koller
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    In article <[email protected]>, Larry
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > [email protected] (Marc) wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    > > Apple plans to launch a cheaper version of the iPhone in the fourth
    > > quarter that could be based on the ultra-slim iPod Nano music player,
    > > according to a JP Morgan report.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > On the editorial page of the local daily newsrag, this morning, there was a
    > hilarious political cartoon showing this goofy kid throwing the iPhone over
    > his shoulder into a huge pile of electronic toys. He's saying to the
    > suited salesman, "I'm bored. What's next?"
    >
    > iPhones will be on Ebay in a couple of months begging for 1/2 price.


    Like all the newer iPods and Macs for sale on Ebay for half price - None

    Like all the Zunes for sale on Ebay for half price - Many



  8. #53
    Notan
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    none wrote:
    > Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>> but it is not "exaggeration", please learn the english language.

    >> Are you a complete moron?
    >>
    >> Where in "1. Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion."
    >> does the word exaggeration exist?
    >>
    >> Of course, the speed of the iPhone and it's applications was exaggerated
    >> in the commercials.

    >
    > but not on Apple's commercials, where was there ANY exaggeration in an
    > Apple iPhone ad? Bet you can't find one.
    >
    > http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/ad1/
    >
    > Every thing is in perfect real time, and real examples. Learn about the
    > iPhone, don't make things up to fit your ignorance.


    Are you *that* naive? (Again, another rhetorical question.)

    Google "slow iphone" and see what you get. Apparently the same device
    that wets your pants is having problems with slow Internet access.

    --
    Notan



  9. #54
    Rod Speed
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote
    >> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote
    >>> Tim Streater wrote
    >>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>> Brian <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>>> [email protected] (Marc) wrote


    >>>>>> Verizon is so-o-o-o-o-o-o-o screwed.


    >>>>> Fantasy.


    >>>>> The vast bulk of phone users want dirt cheap phones, you watch.


    >>>>> The iphone is too big for anyone who doesnt want to browse the web and do email.


    >>>> It seems to be about the same size as my PDA, which sits fine in my pocket. Thing is, I don't
    >>>> need to spend that much on a phone. I got a £50 pay as you go from Tesco and that does fine. No
    >>>> web ****, no camera, no nothing. Just a freaking phone.


    >>> There exists a huge number of people that prefer a *great* phone that *only* makes phone calls,


    >> Bet there aint when the extras are free.


    >>> over a *fairly good* phone that does a smattering of *everything*.


    >> Usual mindless binary stuff. There's plenty of great phones that make and receive phone calls
    >> well and do quite a bit of other stuff as well.


    >> Only a fool carts around a bag full of devices for the stuff that doesnt get done much, but which
    >> is handy at times, even if its just when some fool has run into your car etc.


    > One thing that one has to consider is if you *need* all the extras, and one breaks, you've lost
    > everything while the device is being repaired.


    Fantasy. They dont get repaired anymore, they just get replaced,
    so the single device that does it all just gets replaced, and when
    thats a basic phone that happens to have a camera and media
    player in it because those extras are effectively free, and its just
    the cheapest viable phone you can find, thats a complete yawn.

    > (Similar to purchasing an audio/video system...


    Nope, nothing like it.

    > If your all-in-one breaks, you're SOL during repairs, while separate
    > components allow you to continue using the functioning components.)


    Different matter entirely with a basic phone that happens to have a
    camera and media player included effectively for free, which can be
    handy when some fool runs into your car etc or you just see something
    on offer and want to take a quick picture of it while you chase up the
    alternatives when deciding if its the one to buy etc etc etc.





  10. #55
    Notan
    Guest

    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Rod Speed wrote:
    > Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote
    >> Rod Speed wrote
    >>> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote
    >>>> Tim Streater wrote
    >>>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>>> Brian <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>>>> [email protected] (Marc) wrote

    >
    >>>>>>> Verizon is so-o-o-o-o-o-o-o screwed.

    >
    >>>>>> Fantasy.

    >
    >>>>>> The vast bulk of phone users want dirt cheap phones, you watch.

    >
    >>>>>> The iphone is too big for anyone who doesnt want to browse the web and do email.

    >
    >>>>> It seems to be about the same size as my PDA, which sits fine in my pocket. Thing is, I don't
    >>>>> need to spend that much on a phone. I got a £50 pay as you go from Tesco and that does fine. No
    >>>>> web ****, no camera, no nothing. Just a freaking phone.

    >
    >>>> There exists a huge number of people that prefer a *great* phone that *only* makes phone calls,

    >
    >>> Bet there aint when the extras are free.

    >
    >>>> over a *fairly good* phone that does a smattering of *everything*.

    >
    >>> Usual mindless binary stuff. There's plenty of great phones that make and receive phone calls
    >>> well and do quite a bit of other stuff as well.

    >
    >>> Only a fool carts around a bag full of devices for the stuff that doesnt get done much, but which
    >>> is handy at times, even if its just when some fool has run into your car etc.

    >
    >> One thing that one has to consider is if you *need* all the extras, and one breaks, you've lost
    >> everything while the device is being repaired.

    >
    > Fantasy. They dont get repaired anymore, they just get replaced,
    > so the single device that does it all just gets replaced, and when
    > thats a basic phone that happens to have a camera and media
    > player in it because those extras are effectively free, and its just
    > the cheapest viable phone you can find, thats a complete yawn.
    >
    >> (Similar to purchasing an audio/video system...

    >
    > Nope, nothing like it.
    >
    >> If your all-in-one breaks, you're SOL during repairs, while separate
    >> components allow you to continue using the functioning components.)

    >
    > Different matter entirely with a basic phone that happens to have a
    > camera and media player included effectively for free, which can be
    > handy when some fool runs into your car etc or you just see something
    > on offer and want to take a quick picture of it while you chase up the
    > alternatives when deciding if its the one to buy etc etc etc.


    "Effectively for free..."

    You're kidding, right?

    --
    Notan



  11. #56
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    none <[email protected]> wrote in news:a-5D1C13.09312510072007@mpls-nnrp-
    02.inet.qwest.net:

    >> and I don't THINK anyone has
    >> figured out a way to have some new orgasms with it.

    >
    > sure they have, where have you been?
    >


    You need to get out more....(c;


    Larry
    --
    While in Mexico, I didn't have to press 1 for Spanish.
    While in Iran, I didn't have to press 1 for Farsi, either.
    It just isn't fair.




  12. #57
    none
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    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:

    > > Every thing is in perfect real time, and real examples. Learn about the
    > > iPhone, don't make things up to fit your ignorance.

    >
    > Are you *that* naive? (Again, another rhetorical question.)
    >
    > Google "slow iphone" and see what you get. Apparently the same device
    > that wets your pants is having problems with slow Internet access.


    and that has nothing to do with the iPhone. the iPhone is exceedingly
    quick. Snappy you could say... sure if you are stuck using a Edge
    network the date network could be slow, but that's pretty rare in the
    age of 802.11.



  13. #58
    none
    Guest

    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    > >> and I don't THINK anyone has
    > >> figured out a way to have some new orgasms with it.

    > >
    > > sure they have, where have you been?

    >
    > You need to get out more....(c;
    >
    > Larry


    you were the one that didn't realize your iPhone could give you orgasms,
    so I guess it's YOU that needs to get out more.

    http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/ibuzztwo/



  14. #59
    Jason McNorton
    Guest

    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > none wrote on [Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:05:53 -0600]:
    > > Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
    > >
    > >> > Every thing is in perfect real time, and real examples. Learn about the
    > >> > iPhone, don't make things up to fit your ignorance.
    > >>
    > >> Are you *that* naive? (Again, another rhetorical question.)
    > >>
    > >> Google "slow iphone" and see what you get. Apparently the same device
    > >> that wets your pants is having problems with slow Internet access.

    > >
    > > and that has nothing to do with the iPhone. the iPhone is exceedingly
    > > quick. Snappy you could say... sure if you are stuck using a Edge
    > > network the date network could be slow, but that's pretty rare in the
    > > age of 802.11.

    >
    > This just proves you're a moron. 802.11 is very very very far from
    > available everywhere.
    >
    > Oh gee, I am at the bookstore, I can pay 20 bucks for 802.11 or I can
    > use Edge. Geeze, what choice would you make?


    Let me get this straight, you're saying that 80kbs service is ok and
    better than wifi? And even better than Verizon 1.5megabit EDVO Rev A?



  15. #60
    none
    Guest

    Re: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone

    Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > >> Are you *that* naive? (Again, another rhetorical question.)
    > >>
    > >> Google "slow iphone" and see what you get. Apparently the same device
    > >> that wets your pants is having problems with slow Internet access.

    > >
    > > and that has nothing to do with the iPhone. the iPhone is exceedingly
    > > quick. Snappy you could say... sure if you are stuck using a Edge
    > > network the date network could be slow, but that's pretty rare in the
    > > age of 802.11.

    >
    > This just proves you're a moron. 802.11 is very very very far from
    > available everywhere.


    not if you are in a affluent area, it's everywhere. sure, perhaps not
    while driving down a highway, but in any modern residential area it's
    available everywhere. If it hasn't come to your city as of yet, move.

    > Oh gee, I am at the bookstore, I can pay 20 bucks for 802.11 or I can
    > use Edge. Geeze, what choice would you make?


    at a bookstore, it's always free dummy.



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