Apple cuts back production (iPhone)

Funny, into the 2nd week and apple has already started to cut back on
production. Stock down about 10.00 a share today. This just breaks my heart.

---

› See More: Apple cuts back production (iPhone)

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Funny, into the 2nd week and apple has already started to cut back on
>> production. Stock down about 10.00 a share today.
>
> Honestly, I don't think the two are related. The stock market as a
> whole has taken a beating.
>
> In fact, the ONLY judge you can make about the stock is what PERCENTAGE
> it's down. The absolute number is meaningless.
>
> If their stock was at $20 and it's down $10, that's a WHOLE LOT WORSE
> than if their stock is at $150 and down $10.
>
> So be honest, and quit trying to make things up here. And acknowledge
> that the market as a whole sucks right now.
>

You don't think that it had something to do with it ? (Price going down) ?

They tell of how many they sell, and the price goes up. They tell of how
many there not selling and the price goes down. But this is not a part of
the reason why ?

In article <[email protected]>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Funny, into the 2nd week and apple has already started to cut back on
> > production. Stock down about 10.00 a share today.
>
> Honestly, I don't think the two are related. The stock market as a
> whole has taken a beating.
>
> In fact, the ONLY judge you can make about the stock is what PERCENTAGE
> it's down. The absolute number is meaningless.
>
> If their stock was at $20 and it's down $10, that's a WHOLE LOT WORSE
> than if their stock is at $150 and down $10.
>
> So be honest, and quit trying to make things up here. And acknowledge
> that the market as a whole sucks right now.

And the market is pretty much emotionally driven, not performance-based.

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"

Kevin Weaver wrote:

> Funny, into the 2nd week and apple has already started to cut back on
> production. Stock down about 10.00 a share today. This just breaks my
> heart.

Reality eventually cuts through hype. The early adopters rushed out to
buy the first version, while the more savvy techies are waiting for the
HSDPA version which may have some other new features as well (GPS).

A lot of potential buyers are also be waiting to see if it can be
unlocked, so they can be assured of being able to use prepaid SIM cards
outside of the U.S..

The ability to use it on AT&T prepaid, which was announced recently, may
give it a boost as well. I wonder if prepaid SIM cards from MVNOs that
use the AT&T GSM network will work as well.

In article <[email protected]>,
SMS <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>
> > Funny, into the 2nd week and apple has already started to cut back on
> > production. Stock down about 10.00 a share today. This just breaks my
> > heart.
>
> Reality eventually cuts through hype. The early adopters rushed out to
> buy the first version, while the more savvy techies are waiting for the
> HSDPA version which may have some other new features as well (GPS).
>
> A lot of potential buyers are also be waiting to see if it can be
> unlocked, so they can be assured of being able to use prepaid SIM cards
> outside of the U.S..
>
> The ability to use it on AT&T prepaid, which was announced recently, may
> give it a boost as well. I wonder if prepaid SIM cards from MVNOs that
> use the AT&T GSM network will work as well.

Actually, among my friends (and my wife) who bought iPhones, none were
the early adopter type, and none had ever rushed out ever to buy the
latest anything.
They were excited about a phone that finally had all the features they
wanted in an easy to use way. Nothing else comes close. Not only that, a
first release that didn't require a slew of bug-fixes to function.

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"

Originally Posted by Kevin Weaver

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Funny, into the 2nd week and apple has already started to cut back on
>> production. Stock down about 10.00 a share today.
>
> Honestly, I don't think the two are related. The stock market as a
> whole has taken a beating.
>
> In fact, the ONLY judge you can make about the stock is what PERCENTAGE
> it's down. The absolute number is meaningless.
>
> If their stock was at $20 and it's down $10, that's a WHOLE LOT WORSE
> than if their stock is at $150 and down $10.
>
> So be honest, and quit trying to make things up here. And acknowledge
> that the market as a whole sucks right now.
>

You don't think that it had something to do with it ? (Price going down) ?

They tell of how many they sell, and the price goes up. They tell of how
many there not selling and the price goes down. But this is not a part of
the reason why ?

Exactly. I think the stock will even out and come to a happy medium within the next month though.

Originally Posted by Kurt

In article <[email protected]>,
SMS <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>
> > Funny, into the 2nd week and apple has already started to cut back on
> > production. Stock down about 10.00 a share today. This just breaks my
> > heart.
>
> Reality eventually cuts through hype. The early adopters rushed out to
> buy the first version, while the more savvy techies are waiting for the
> HSDPA version which may have some other new features as well (GPS).
>
> A lot of potential buyers are also be waiting to see if it can be
> unlocked, so they can be assured of being able to use prepaid SIM cards
> outside of the U.S..
>
> The ability to use it on AT&T prepaid, which was announced recently, may
> give it a boost as well. I wonder if prepaid SIM cards from MVNOs that
> use the AT&T GSM network will work as well.

Actually, among my friends (and my wife) who bought iPhones, none were
the early adopter type, and none had ever rushed out ever to buy the
latest anything.
They were excited about a phone that finally had all the features they
wanted in an easy to use way. Nothing else comes close. Not only that, a
first release that didn't require a slew of bug-fixes to function.

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"

You are obviously not aware of other phones on the market then.

In article <[email protected]>,
tavenger5 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kurt Wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Kevin Weaver wrote:
> > >
> > > > Funny, into the 2nd week and apple has already started to cut back
> > on
> > > > production. Stock down about 10.00 a share today. This just breaks
> > my
> > > > heart.
> > >
> > > Reality eventually cuts through hype. The early adopters rushed out
> > to
> > > buy the first version, while the more savvy techies are waiting for
> > the
> > > HSDPA version which may have some other new features as well (GPS).
> > >
> > > A lot of potential buyers are also be waiting to see if it can be
> > > unlocked, so they can be assured of being able to use prepaid SIM
> > cards
> > > outside of the U.S..
> > >
> > > The ability to use it on AT&T prepaid, which was announced recently,
> > may
> > > give it a boost as well. I wonder if prepaid SIM cards from MVNOs
> > that
> > > use the AT&T GSM network will work as well.
> >
> > Actually, among my friends (and my wife) who bought iPhones, none were
> > the early adopter type, and none had ever rushed out ever to buy the
> > latest anything.
> > They were excited about a phone that finally had all the features they
> > wanted in an easy to use way. Nothing else comes close. Not only that,
> > a
> > first release that didn't require a slew of bug-fixes to function.
> >
> > --
> > To reply by email, remove the word "space"
>
> You are obviously not aware of other phones on the market then.

Neither were the other 270,000

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"

In article <[email protected]>,
tavenger5 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kurt Wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Kevin Weaver wrote:
> > >
> > > > Funny, into the 2nd week and apple has already started to cut back
> > on
> > > > production. Stock down about 10.00 a share today. This just breaks
> > my
> > > > heart.
> > >
> > > Reality eventually cuts through hype. The early adopters rushed out
> > to
> > > buy the first version, while the more savvy techies are waiting for
> > the
> > > HSDPA version which may have some other new features as well (GPS).
> > >
> > > A lot of potential buyers are also be waiting to see if it can be
> > > unlocked, so they can be assured of being able to use prepaid SIM
> > cards
> > > outside of the U.S..
> > >
> > > The ability to use it on AT&T prepaid, which was announced recently,
> > may
> > > give it a boost as well. I wonder if prepaid SIM cards from MVNOs
> > that
> > > use the AT&T GSM network will work as well.
> >
> > Actually, among my friends (and my wife) who bought iPhones, none were
> > the early adopter type, and none had ever rushed out ever to buy the
> > latest anything.
> > They were excited about a phone that finally had all the features they
> > wanted in an easy to use way. Nothing else comes close. Not only that,
> > a
> > first release that didn't require a slew of bug-fixes to function.
> >
> > --
> > To reply by email, remove the word "space"
>
> You are obviously not aware of other phones on the market then.

Only the slew of crappy phones. Name one in a similar vein to the iPhone
that worked flawlessly on first release. Treo ain't one of them...
neither BB

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"

tavenger5 wrote:

<snip>

> You are obviously not aware of other phones on the market then.

A _lot_ of people got caught up in the hype of iPhone launch, people
that don't understand about 2G versus 3G, about international roaming
versus prepaid SIM cards, about the ability to run PDA applications,
etc. Some bought the iPhone knowing full-well what its limitations were,
and didn't care.

It _is_ probably the best hand held device for Wi-Fi web browsing, and
it probably works as well as any GSM-only phone in the U.S.. You just
don't want to buy it thinking you're getting a full-function PDA or 3G
web browser or HSDPA access device.




[Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
non-spam posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name has gone
away, and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding
AT&T's Wireless Service.]

In article <[email protected]>,
SMS <[email protected]> wrote:

> tavenger5 wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > You are obviously not aware of other phones on the market then.
>
> A _lot_ of people got caught up in the hype of iPhone launch, people
> that don't understand about 2G versus 3G, about international roaming
> versus prepaid SIM cards, about the ability to run PDA applications,
> etc. Some bought the iPhone knowing full-well what its limitations were,
> and didn't care.
>
> It _is_ probably the best hand held device for Wi-Fi web browsing, and
> it probably works as well as any GSM-only phone in the U.S.. You just
> don't want to buy it thinking you're getting a full-function PDA or 3G
> web browser or HSDPA access device.
>
My "full-function PDA" Treo doesn't work half as well as my wife's
iPhone.

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"

"Kurt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> tavenger5 wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > You are obviously not aware of other phones on the market then.
>>
>> A _lot_ of people got caught up in the hype of iPhone launch, people
>> that don't understand about 2G versus 3G, about international roaming
>> versus prepaid SIM cards, about the ability to run PDA applications,
>> etc. Some bought the iPhone knowing full-well what its limitations were,
>> and didn't care.
>>
>> It _is_ probably the best hand held device for Wi-Fi web browsing, and
>> it probably works as well as any GSM-only phone in the U.S.. You just
>> don't want to buy it thinking you're getting a full-function PDA or 3G
>> web browser or HSDPA access device.
>>
> My "full-function PDA" Treo doesn't work half as well as my wife's
> iPhone.
>
> --
> To reply by email, remove the word "space"


Better go get one before they stop production.

In article <[email protected]>,
"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Kurt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> tavenger5 wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> > You are obviously not aware of other phones on the market then.
> >>
> >> A _lot_ of people got caught up in the hype of iPhone launch, people
> >> that don't understand about 2G versus 3G, about international roaming
> >> versus prepaid SIM cards, about the ability to run PDA applications,
> >> etc. Some bought the iPhone knowing full-well what its limitations were,
> >> and didn't care.
> >>
> >> It _is_ probably the best hand held device for Wi-Fi web browsing, and
> >> it probably works as well as any GSM-only phone in the U.S.. You just
> >> don't want to buy it thinking you're getting a full-function PDA or 3G
> >> web browser or HSDPA access device.
> >>
> > My "full-function PDA" Treo doesn't work half as well as my wife's
> > iPhone.
> >
> > --
> > To reply by email, remove the word "space"
>
>
> Better go get one before they stop production.

Have one. Will buy another this month. Treo was pain this last trip, had
to keep borrowing wife's iPhone. Have you ever used an iPhone and PDA
side-by-side and compared how they work?

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"

Kurt wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Kurt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> tavenger5 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> You are obviously not aware of other phones on the market then.
>>>> A _lot_ of people got caught up in the hype of iPhone launch, people
>>>> that don't understand about 2G versus 3G, about international roaming
>>>> versus prepaid SIM cards, about the ability to run PDA applications,
>>>> etc. Some bought the iPhone knowing full-well what its limitations were,
>>>> and didn't care.
>>>>
>>>> It _is_ probably the best hand held device for Wi-Fi web browsing, and
>>>> it probably works as well as any GSM-only phone in the U.S.. You just
>>>> don't want to buy it thinking you're getting a full-function PDA or 3G
>>>> web browser or HSDPA access device.
>>>>
>>> My "full-function PDA" Treo doesn't work half as well as my wife's
>>> iPhone.
>>>
>>> --
>>> To reply by email, remove the word "space"
>>
>> Better go get one before they stop production.
>
> Have one. Will buy another this month. Treo was pain this last trip, had
> to keep borrowing wife's iPhone. Have you ever used an iPhone and PDA
> side-by-side and compared how they work?

For web browsing the iPhone is much better. If you need to do e-mail, or
use other PDA functions, the Treo (or Blackberry) is much better.

In article <[email protected]>,
SMS <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kurt wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> "Kurt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >>> In article <[email protected]>,
> >>> SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> tavenger5 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>
> >>>>> You are obviously not aware of other phones on the market then.
> >>>> A _lot_ of people got caught up in the hype of iPhone launch, people
> >>>> that don't understand about 2G versus 3G, about international roaming
> >>>> versus prepaid SIM cards, about the ability to run PDA applications,
> >>>> etc. Some bought the iPhone knowing full-well what its limitations were,
> >>>> and didn't care.
> >>>>
> >>>> It _is_ probably the best hand held device for Wi-Fi web browsing, and
> >>>> it probably works as well as any GSM-only phone in the U.S.. You just
> >>>> don't want to buy it thinking you're getting a full-function PDA or 3G
> >>>> web browser or HSDPA access device.
> >>>>
> >>> My "full-function PDA" Treo doesn't work half as well as my wife's
> >>> iPhone.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> To reply by email, remove the word "space"
> >>
> >> Better go get one before they stop production.
> >
> > Have one. Will buy another this month. Treo was pain this last trip, had
> > to keep borrowing wife's iPhone. Have you ever used an iPhone and PDA
> > side-by-side and compared how they work?
>
> For web browsing the iPhone is much better. If you need to do e-mail, or
> use other PDA functions, the Treo (or Blackberry) is much better.

You know how it is when you were once thrilled with something and then
something else came along and changed the way you felt things had to be?
iPhone did this to me.

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"