Jobs SLAMS 3G - Wipes out its future!

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > it showed up, then disappeared? how odd.
>>
>> No, it didn't disappear.
>>
>> I just checked. It's still there.
>
> great, then just post the link. or is that task over your head?

Just find the link. or is that task over your head?


>
> search google, then "groups" to give you a head start.
>
>> Of course, that you completely ignored it for some reason, is not
>> surprising.
>
> i probably didn't read it, i'm a busy man.

That must mean they finally got the fry machine fixed.

>
>> Let's see, it was a newsguy post.
>
> okay, good you are at least trying to figure out why you made the
> false statement.
>

And yet you are too challenged to find it. Pathetic.

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CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:

> > yes, it's a scan i made of a Polaroid i took around christmas of 1984.
> > there is a 1200 baud hayes modem under that phone, and a televideo
> > terminal behind the compaq, but since you didn't take the photo, you
> > wouldn't know those little details. i do.
>
> You didn't take the photo.

ah, but i did, also scanned it on an Apple One Scanner probably 10-12
years ago, the only things I didn't do is crop it down and turn it into
a .gif. Yes, it is MY photo, you can't make stuff like that up. That
northstar is the exact machine i learned WordStar on, and the Mac above
it was produced a week before the launch in January 1984. trust me, i go
way back and have seen / lived all this close up.

> > poor cozmic, can't win.
>
> I've already won- you're just too stupid to realize it.

where have you won? you can't provide any information about Adele,
neither can anyone else so I'll give you credit for that. You don't know
you PC history which is self evident. And you don't realize, but that
photo is clearly mine. I still have it in my archives.

so you seem to be failing at every turn. i win each time. so it appears
cozmic doesn't have a clue about what Elmo and I are talking about.

> > like what? i'm still waiting for anyone to provide information that
> > adele had a "crucial" connection to apple/sj. so far, none.
>
> And why should we provide the informatio nto someone claiming to hav eso
> much experience and first-hand knowledge?

because i'm EGER to learn! if you have inside info I don't know about,
please share it. But when you can't, I think you are a liar. So post
this info, let EVERYONE know, then I might respect you. But so far you
have nothing but false info.

> Having to provide it proves that you are lying about everything and
> simply google your data.

No, it shows you are a false poster on USENET. you can't gain respect
unless you can PROVE something.

> No- what drew me in was your own stupidity. Writing style had nothing
> to do with it, although a 4th grader would show more intelligence than
> you in trying "to communication with the widest audience."

so you are getting desperate now? is that the plan. i clearly see you
have nothing to support any of your comments. learn how to "teach", not
how to create false judgement.

> > we know adele never worked for apple, so by default she could not have
> > contributed anything "crucial" for any apple product.
>
> Wait a minute, slowboy- your contention from day one was that Apple has
> been such an innovator in everything they touch and that they have
> changed industries. Based on the logic you just used, they could not do
> that, as they did not work for the companies in those industries top be
> able to coontribute anything "crucial" to product advancement.
>
> You can't have it both ways, simpleton.

your above paragraph doesn't make sense. it ends with mis*****ings and
confusion, please be more clear so everyone can understand your
ramblings.

> > you have not
> > provided any information to the contrary, so my facts stand until you
> > can prove them incorrect.
>
> Your statements do not constitute fact.

no, but they do represent facts that can be easily verified, you provide
no such data.

> > the burden of proof falls on you and Elmo...
> > but neither of you have any facts, so everyone sits back and laughs at
> > you.
>
> Show me one other person "laughing" at us, fool.

the silence speaks volumes. you and elmo are caught in a lie, so the mac
experts know to leave well enough alone when someone tries to fight
oxford on a topic. elmo picked a poor subject, and can't substantiate
his claim, thus, me and the mac community are having fun hanging him out
to dry.

he'll end up with some weak claim about smalltalk, but not understand
that apple never used smalltalk in their products so adele never
mattered in the first place.

> > there is no documentation at all other than she played "hostess" when
> > Apple visited PARC. that's the only connection that is documented.
>
> No it's not.

then show me and EVERYONE the money!

> > Well, nobody has come forward, so unless someone does, you guys are
> > out of luck.
>
> We're not out of luck- you're the newbie that can't find the readily
> available information.

i've been posting longer than pretty much anyone currently in CSMA, 1994
or so, so don't be silly. I sense your skill level is roughly
"newcomer", so while you have posted before, you are very much an
amateur at this craft.

> > the burden of proof is up to you. either show us some facts, or play
> > the fool.
> >
> > your choice!
>
> There is no "us" involved in this, dummy- you are the only one that
> hasn't found it.

It's because there is nothing to be found. Adele worked at a research
level "Kinko's", but never had any crucial impact on Apple, Inc.

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
[email protected]:

> CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>
>> His problem is that he is so obsessed with Apple that he can't think
or
>> comprehend beyond it. It's hilarious.
>
> no, my view is fully comprehensive,

No, it's not. Replying as you did proves my point.

> it's just that people that didn't
> contribute to the pc industry aren't valued.

A very abbreviated biography:

http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/VisualWorks/Adele+Goldberg

"Dr. Adele Goldberg is currently a founder of Neometron, Inc., a startup
company working towards new forms of Intranet support for dynamic
knowledge management. Previously, she served as Chairman of the Board
and a founder of ParcPlace-Digitalk, Inc. until April, 1996. ParcPlace
created application development environments based on object-oriented
technology and sold to corporate programmers.
Prior to the creation of ParcPlace, Adele received a Ph.D. in
Information Science from the University of Chicago and spent 14 years as
researcher and laboratory manager at the Xerox Palo Alto Research
Center. From 1984-1986, Adele served as president of the ACM, having
previously served as national Secretary and Editor-in-Chief of Computing
Surveys.

Solely and with others, Adele wrote the definitive books on the
Smalltalk-80 programming system and has authored numerous papers on
project management and analysis methodology using object-oriented
technology.

Dr. Goldberg edited The History of Personal Workstations, published
jointly by the ACM and Addison-Wesley in 1988 as part of the ACM Press
Book Series on the History of Computing which she organized, and co-
edited Visual Object-Oriented Programming with Margaret Burnett and Ted
Lewis.

Dr. Goldberg was recipient of the ACM Systems Software Award in 1987
along with Dan Ingalls and Alan Kay, PC Magazine's 1990 Lifetime
Achievement Award for her significant contributions to the personal
computer industry, is a Fellow of the ACM, and was honored in 1995 with
the Reed College Howard Vollum Award for contributions to science and
technology."


I guess maybe she did contribute to the PC industry. A little more than
the cookies and punch you say were her sole contribution. Idiot.


> show me where adele
> contributed to apple or sj... if she did, that's great! i'll update my
> history file,

History file? Something a child would need.

> but nobody seems to be able to show anything she has done
> for apple or sj, so Elmo has painted himself in a corner, that's all.
>
> -

Nope. You are just too uneducated to know the truth. Period.

>

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > Wait a minute, slowboy- your contention from day one was that Apple has
> > > been such an innovator in everything they touch and that they have
> > > changed industries. Based on the logic you just used, they could not do
> > > that, as they did not work for the companies in those industries top be
> > > able to coontribute anything "crucial" to product advancement.
> > >
> > > You can't have it both ways, simpleton.
> >
> > your above paragraph doesn't make sense. it ends with mis*****ings and
> > confusion, please be more clear so everyone can understand your
> > ramblings.
>
> What part of "You can't have it both ways, simpleton" is not *****ed
> correctly and is confusing?
>
> You DID say "your above paragraph," right?

I never said simpleton, that was Cozmic or whatever his name is. He got
off on a rant and *****ed coontribute incorrectly... thus I called him
on it.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > because i'm EGER to learn!
>
> And you've never read The Dream Machine?
>
> You're not very eager (not "eger") to learn at all, obviously. You ARE
> eager to spout things you think you know as if you know everything, like
> some Usenet Rain Man. "Steve Jobs, Steve Jobs, yeah..."

yes, i made an error, at least i admit it, you don't.

so who was adele goldberg again? nothing seems to come up in connection
to apple in written, oral or internet history? i'm sure you'll be eager
to explain why.

so far, you've been caught in a lie.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > ah, but i did, also scanned it on an Apple One Scanner probably 10-12
> > years ago, the only things I didn't do is crop it down and turn it into
> > a .gif. Yes, it is MY photo, you can't make stuff like that up.
>
> Well, I don't know about that, but Lord knows NOBODY could make up stuff
> like what you say on these here newsgroups.

like you?

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>
>> > yes, it's a scan i made of a Polaroid i took around christmas of
>> > 1984. there is a 1200 baud hayes modem under that phone, and a
>> > televideo terminal behind the compaq, but since you didn't take the
>> > photo, you wouldn't know those little details. i do.
>>
>> You didn't take the photo.
>
> ah, but i did, also scanned it on an Apple One Scanner probably 10-12
> years ago, the only things I didn't do is crop it down and turn it
> into a .gif. Yes, it is MY photo, you can't make stuff like that up.

I didn't say you made anything up. I said that it wasn't your picture,
and I believe I am correct.

>
> That northstar is the exact machine i learned WordStar on, and the Mac
> above it was produced a week before the launch in January 1984. trust
> me, i go way back and have seen / lived all this close up.
>
>> > poor cozmic, can't win.
>>
>> I've already won- you're just too stupid to realize it.
>
> where have you won? you can't provide any information about Adele,

No can't- I won't provide any infromation. You'll understand the
difference when you grow up.

> neither can anyone else so I'll give you credit for that. You don't
> know you PC history which is self evident.

You don't know you PC history? You might try using an accepted english
dialect going forward, unless you really are that stupid.

I'm sorry- please point out anything I've said about PC history. I
don't believe you can find any quote from me on the subject. This means
you have nothing to base your idiotic supposition on, buffoon.


> And you don't realize, but
> that photo is clearly mine. I still have it in my archives.


Stolen from somebody else, I'm sure. That fits your M.O..

>
> so you seem to be failing at every turn. i win each time. so it
> appears cozmic doesn't have a clue about what Elmo and I are talking
> about.


Wrong- I know the answer to Elmo's questions and you don't. You're the
clueless one here, troll.

>
>> > like what? i'm still waiting for anyone to provide information that
>> > adele had a "crucial" connection to apple/sj. so far, none.
>>
>> And why should we provide the informatio nto someone claiming to hav
>> eso much experience and first-hand knowledge?
>
> because i'm EGER to learn!

Wow- most people would be EAGER to learn.


> if you have inside info I don't know about,
> please share it.

Ah- the moron starts to doubt hinself.

> But when you can't,

Again- I certainly can, but I won't.

> I think you are a liar.

And I think you're an idiot.

> So post
> this info, let EVERYONE know, then I might respect you.

The last thing I want is YOUR respect.

> But so far you
> have nothing but false info.

False info? Where?

>
>> Having to provide it proves that you are lying about everything and
>> simply google your data.
>
> No, it shows you are a false poster on USENET.


No- this shows that you are acting like a spoiled little child who's not
getting their own way. I imagine you falling onto the floor in a
juvenile rage while posting.

> you can't gain respect
> unless you can PROVE something.

I can prove all kinds of things, boy. However, educating special needs
students like your self is not my calling in life.

>
>> No- what drew me in was your own stupidity. Writing style had
>> nothing to do with it, although a 4th grader would show more
>> intelligence than you in trying "to communication with the widest
>> audience."
>
> so you are getting desperate now? is that the plan. i clearly see you
> have nothing to support any of your comments. learn how to "teach",
> not how to create false judgement.

I know how to teach- you need to learn how to speak the english
language.

>
>> > we know adele never worked for apple, so by default she could not
>> > have contributed anything "crucial" for any apple product.
>>
>> Wait a minute, slowboy- your contention from day one was that Apple
>> has been such an innovator in everything they touch and that they
>> have changed industries. Based on the logic you just used, they
>> could not do that, as they did not work for the companies in those
>> industries top be able to coontribute anything "crucial" to product
>> advancement.
>>
>> You can't have it both ways, simpleton.
>
> your above paragraph doesn't make sense. it ends with mis*****ings and
> confusion, please be more clear so everyone can understand your
> ramblings.

Here- I'll dumb it down for you. I forgot I was dealing with a third
grade education.

You say Apple can change industries, but someone else can't, unless they
worked for Apple. Using your own logic (as childish as it is), your
argument about Adele Goldberg ("We know adele never worked for apple, so
by default she could not have contributed anything "crucial" for any
apple product.") would indicate that Apple would not be capable of
changing industries unless they supplied all the product for that
industry.



>
>> > you have not
>> > provided any information to the contrary, so my facts stand until
>> > you can prove them incorrect.
>>
>> Your statements do not constitute fact.
>
> no, but they do represent facts that can be easily verified, you
> provide no such data.

No- your statements can only verify that you need serious nmedication.

>
>> > the burden of proof falls on you and Elmo...
>> > but neither of you have any facts, so everyone sits back and laughs
>> > at you.
>>
>> Show me one other person "laughing" at us, fool.
>
> the silence speaks volumes. you and elmo are caught in a lie, so the
> mac experts know to leave well enough alone when someone tries to
> fight oxford on a topic.

Actually, the mac experts have all voiced a unanimous opinion that you
are a twit that they do not wish to be associated with.


> elmo picked a poor subject, and can't
> substantiate his claim, thus, me and the mac community are having fun
> hanging him out to dry.

Actually, he can.

>
> he'll end up with some weak claim about smalltalk, but not understand
> that apple never used smalltalk in their products so adele never
> mattered in the first place.

Your contention is that Apple never used Smalltalk? That is what you
just typed. I was hoping you would say that!

http://www.smalltalk.org/alankay.html

"In 1979, the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center developed the first
prototype for a GUI. A young man named Steve Jobs, looking for new ideas
to work into future iterations of the Apple computer, traded US $1
million in stock options to Xerox for a detailed tour of their
facilities and current projects. One of the things Xerox showed Jobs was
the Alto, which sported a GUI and a three-button mouse. When Jobs saw
this prototype, he had an epiphany and set out to bring the GUI to the
public".


>
>> > there is no documentation at all other than she played "hostess"
>> > when Apple visited PARC. that's the only connection that is
>> > documented.
>>
>> No it's not.
>
> then show me and EVERYONE the money!

You've been given pieces. You're too stupid to put them together.

>
>> > Well, nobody has come forward, so unless someone does, you guys are
>> > out of luck.
>>
>> We're not out of luck- you're the newbie that can't find the readily
>> available information.
>
> i've been posting longer than pretty much anyone currently in CSMA,
> 1994 or so, so don't be silly. I sense your skill level is roughly
> "newcomer", so while you have posted before, you are very much an
> amateur at this craft.

You sense is wrong, boy.

>
>> > the burden of proof is up to you. either show us some facts, or
>> > play the fool.
>> >
>> > your choice!
>>
>> There is no "us" involved in this, dummy- you are the only one that
>> hasn't found it.
>
> It's because there is nothing to be found. Adele worked at a research
> level "Kinko's", but never had any crucial impact on Apple, Inc.
>

LMAO

CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:

> > no, my view is fully comprehensive,
>
> No, it's not. Replying as you did proves my point.

ah, but i do have a wider perspective than what you've been able to
provide. that's a fact. you are just mad that elmo can't come up with
any proof, so you are trying to step in since he is embarrassed.

> > it's just that people that didn't
> > contribute to the pc industry aren't valued.
>
> A very abbreviated biography:
>
> http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/VisualWorks/Adele+Goldberg
>
> "Dr. Adele Goldberg is currently a founder of Neometron, Inc., a startup
> company working towards new forms of Intranet support for dynamic
> knowledge management. Previously, she served as Chairman of the Board
> and a founder of ParcPlace-Digitalk, Inc. until April, 1996. ParcPlace
> created application development environments based on object-oriented
> technology and sold to corporate programmers.

and so have hundreds of other people, Adele is nobody special in this
field.

> Prior to the creation of ParcPlace, Adele received a Ph.D. in
> Information Science from the University of Chicago and spent 14 years as
> researcher and laboratory manager at the Xerox Palo Alto Research
> Center. From 1984-1986, Adele served as president of the ACM, having
> previously served as national Secretary and Editor-in-Chief of Computing
> Surveys.
>
> Solely and with others, Adele wrote the definitive books on the
> Smalltalk-80 programming system and has authored numerous papers on
> project management and analysis methodology using object-oriented
> technology.

And so did many other people. Smalltalk was just a teaching/research
language, Apple never used it. That idea originated in 1960s with Simula
in Norway. Is Adele Norwegian? Nope! Apple used Clascal to develop the
Lisa. So where does Adele fit in? Nowhere.

> Dr. Goldberg edited The History of Personal Workstations, published
> jointly by the ACM and Addison-Wesley in 1988 as part of the ACM Press
> Book Series on the History of Computing which she organized, and co-
> edited Visual Object-Oriented Programming with Margaret Burnett and Ted
> Lewis.
>
> Dr. Goldberg was recipient of the ACM Systems Software Award in 1987
> along with Dan Ingalls and Alan Kay, PC Magazine's 1990 Lifetime
> Achievement Award for her significant contributions to the personal
> computer industry, is a Fellow of the ACM, and was honored in 1995 with
> the Reed College Howard Vollum Award for contributions to science and
> technology."
>
>
> I guess maybe she did contribute to the PC industry. A little more than
> the cookies and punch you say were her sole contribution. Idiot.

But no product that was ever sold to the masses had her ideas or efforts
contained within. She was mainly a typist and researcher. She didn't DO
ANYTHING... much less anything "crucial" for Apple or SJ.

> > show me where adele
> > contributed to apple or sj... if she did, that's great! i'll update my
> > history file,
>
> History file? Something a child would need.

You have no idea.

> > but nobody seems to be able to show anything she has done
> > for apple or sj, so Elmo has painted himself in a corner, that's all.

> Nope. You are just too uneducated to know the truth. Period.

Well, you've shown you don't have anything to contribute to the topic.

You just don't want to understand the timeline of events. It's like a
missing gap in your understanding from about 1975 to 1995. You sound
kinda like a mid-30 year old that hasn't been around long enough to
understand the level I'm speaking at.

-

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > she worked at PARC and typed up research information for several
> > engineers. she also put out refreshments and cookies for visiting Apple
> > engineers.
>
> OK, you've said this twice. Now I *know* you're ****ing with us. It
> couldn't be anything else.
>
> Given that you know what I'm talking about, I'm finished.

you're finished since you know Adele had nothing to do with Apple or SJ.
So I've caught you in a serious lie, so you are giving up... or "I'm
finished" as you put it.

Best of luck, please learn next time to research out facts, figures and
history because i'll beat you every time unless you do. I've known all
along what your "proposed secret" was, and knew it was a flimsy
connection at "best".

In someways i feel you have some direct tie to Adele, but i'm sorry that
she wasn't wise enough to go to Apple when she had a chance and make
something of herself. Now, she's not even a footnote in any history
books, she is just known as the lady that put out milk and cookies when
Apple came to town.

-

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>
>> > no, my view is fully comprehensive,
>>
>> No, it's not. Replying as you did proves my point.
>
> ah, but i do have a wider perspective than what you've been able to
> provide. that's a fact. you are just mad that elmo can't come up with
> any proof, so you are trying to step in since he is embarrassed.

No- I'm amazed that somebody could possible be a dumb as you.

>
>> > it's just that people that didn't
>> > contribute to the pc industry aren't valued.
>>
>> A very abbreviated biography:
>>
>> http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/VisualWorks/Adele+Goldberg
>>
>> "Dr. Adele Goldberg is currently a founder of Neometron, Inc., a
>> startup company working towards new forms of Intranet support for
>> dynamic knowledge management. Previously, she served as Chairman of
>> the Board and a founder of ParcPlace-Digitalk, Inc. until April,
>> 1996. ParcPlace created application development environments based on
>> object-oriented technology and sold to corporate programmers.
>
> and so have hundreds of other people, Adele is nobody special in this
> field.

No- hundreds of others have not served as Chairman of PARC. Hundreds
have not won the many industry awards she has, including Stevie Jobber.

>
>> Prior to the creation of ParcPlace, Adele received a Ph.D. in
>> Information Science from the University of Chicago and spent 14 years
>> as researcher and laboratory manager at the Xerox Palo Alto Research
>> Center. From 1984-1986, Adele served as president of the ACM, having
>> previously served as national Secretary and Editor-in-Chief of
>> Computing Surveys.
>>
>> Solely and with others, Adele wrote the definitive books on the
>> Smalltalk-80 programming system and has authored numerous papers on
>> project management and analysis methodology using object-oriented
>> technology.
>
> And so did many other people. Smalltalk was just a teaching/research
> language, Apple never used it. That idea originated in 1960s with
> Simula in Norway. Is Adele Norwegian? Nope! Apple used Clascal to
> develop the Lisa. So where does Adele fit in? Nowhere.

Again- many people did write the definitive book on the first true GUI.

>
>> Dr. Goldberg edited The History of Personal Workstations, published
>> jointly by the ACM and Addison-Wesley in 1988 as part of the ACM
>> Press Book Series on the History of Computing which she organized,
>> and co- edited Visual Object-Oriented Programming with Margaret
>> Burnett and Ted Lewis.
>>
>> Dr. Goldberg was recipient of the ACM Systems Software Award in 1987
>> along with Dan Ingalls and Alan Kay, PC Magazine's 1990 Lifetime
>> Achievement Award for her significant contributions to the personal
>> computer industry, is a Fellow of the ACM, and was honored in 1995
>> with the Reed College Howard Vollum Award for contributions to
>> science and technology."
>>
>>
>> I guess maybe she did contribute to the PC industry. A little more
>> than the cookies and punch you say were her sole contribution.
>> Idiot.
>
> But no product that was ever sold to the masses had her ideas or
> efforts contained within.

Excpet for Windows and the Mac, you'd be correct.

> She was mainly a typist and researcher. She
> didn't DO ANYTHING... much less anything "crucial" for Apple or SJ.

Nope- now you are just being childish.

>
>> > show me where adele
>> > contributed to apple or sj... if she did, that's great! i'll update
>> > my history file,
>>
>> History file? Something a child would need.
>
> You have no idea.

Yes I would- I have children and they act much more mature than you and
seem to possess much more knowledge than you.

>
>> > but nobody seems to be able to show anything she has done
>> > for apple or sj, so Elmo has painted himself in a corner, that's
>> > all.
>
>> Nope. You are just too uneducated to know the truth. Period.
>
> Well, you've shown you don't have anything to contribute to the topic.
>
> You just don't want to understand the timeline of events. It's like a
> missing gap in your understanding from about 1975 to 1995. You sound
> kinda like a mid-30 year old that hasn't been around long enough to
> understand the level I'm speaking at.
>

Well, I remember my mid-thirties, although it was a while ago.

Your powers of perception leave much to be desired.

> -
>

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > And yet you are too challenged to find it. Pathetic.
> >
> > nothing by newsguy since march 18th.
>
> You mean you're looking for a USER named newsguy?
>
> Jesus. Put the breadcrumbs on the floor, and watch the autistic dog
> fail to notice them.

no numbnuts. it pulls up all sorts of hits for usenet posts falling
under newsguy since it's also usenet feed ... so that isn't much of a
hint.

try again Elmo.

Elmo P. Shagnasty <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > She was mainly a typist and researcher. She didn't DO
> > > > ANYTHING... much less anything "crucial" for Apple or SJ.
> > >
> > > my God, every time he opens his mouth he amazes me. I mean, each time I
> > > think it can't get any worse...
> >
> > and it's all your fault since you continue to come up empty handed when
> > asked to spill the beans on her "crucial contribution" to apple/sj.
>
> Let's see: it's MY fault that whenever YOU open your mouth, YOU say the
> world's stupidest things.
>
> Voting for Hillary, are you?

Is he old enough to vote?

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter

Oxford wrote:

> CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>
>
>>>and the darling of Silicon Valley, so they
>>>were "off the ground" long before Alede put out some refreshments and
>>>cookies.
>>
>>No- they would most certainly have crashed and burned without Adele's
>>major contribution.
>
>
> and what contribution would that be? the refreshments or the cookies?
>
>
>>>>You say you were around then- we shouldn't have to tell you. Unless
>>>>you were lying again.
>>>
>>>Yes, I started on a North Star Horizon around that time. Wood case
>>>running CP/M.
>>
>>Nope- I beleive that is a lie.
>
>
> nope, search the archives, i've discussed it several times over the last
> 10-12 years. i first used it with wordstar and a okidata printer.
>
>
>>>http://www.computercloset.org/NorthStarHorizon_Ad1.jpg
>>>
>>>So I know the history from about 1978 or so,
>>
>>Saying you know it and living it are two different things. You have
>>already shown us all that you have simply done very poor to appear that
>>you were active at that time. You are not to be believed on this.
>
>
> and you don't know who i am, but i've been active in the industry since
> 1978-79.
>

Gee, tell us who you really are.

>
>>>Alede never contributed a
>>>single thing to Apple or SJ,
>>
>>Yes she did- you simply haven't been smart enough to admith that even yo
>>know what it is. Doing so would forever cemetn your position as a
>>clueless newbie.
>
>
> then NAME her contribution. bet you can't.
>

Didn't you read the wiki entry?
smalltalk.

Scott wrote:

> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>yes, it's a scan i made of a Polaroid i took around christmas of
>>>>1984. there is a 1200 baud hayes modem under that phone, and a
>>>>televideo terminal behind the compaq, but since you didn't take the
>>>>photo, you wouldn't know those little details. i do.
>>>
>>>You didn't take the photo.
>>
>>ah, but i did, also scanned it on an Apple One Scanner probably 10-12
>>years ago, the only things I didn't do is crop it down and turn it
>>into a .gif. Yes, it is MY photo, you can't make stuff like that up.
>
>
> I didn't say you made anything up. I said that it wasn't your picture,
> and I believe I am correct.
>

I've seen that picture on the net elsewhere. It's been a while tho and
I can't really place the context of it.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>so they
>>were "off the ground" long before Alede put out some refreshments and
>>cookies.
>
>
> <snort> Yeah, that's her contribution. She put out the cookies at "the
> PARC visit".
>
> Man, I need to hang around you some more. I need lessons on putting as
> much information into as few words as you seem to be the master of. Of
> course, yours is MISinformation, but still--no doubt, we can all take
> lessons from you.
>
> Economy of words. That's your thing.
>

Oxretard nymshifted to the Mayors handle and trolled the windows
newsgroups saying things like "You could have had a mac."
He's nothing more than a troll.