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  1. #16
    Todd H.
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    Re: Impressions of V3xx?

    "Fred" <[email protected]> writes:

    > If I am not using data (no 3G) is the Krzr esentially a V3xx clone?


    No. There are a number of differences, ann they're both different
    form factors.

    Here's a side by side comparison of specs
    http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/com...&id%5B%5D=1086

    V3xx has a lower resolution camera, about half the talk time, one less
    GSM band. On the plus side, though, it has 3G data rates as you know,
    3x the memory of the Krzr (which if you store a ba****load in your
    calendar might be an issue?), and 2 WCDMA bands that the Krzr lacks
    (does WCDMA do anything for us AT&T folks by the way?), and the V3xx
    screen is 240 x 320 pixels vs the Krzr's screen which is 176 x 220
    pixels. That screen size and memory may be what sways you for your
    calendaring desires.

    Only you and your eyes and hands with the two in front of you will
    help you decide, I suspect.

    > Are there any other advantages to the V3xx (I do plan on extensive use
    > of the appt. calendar).


    Is there an AT&T store near you that carries both that might have two
    working demo models that you can compare side by side?

    Seems it's time to stop researching and time to get two of em side by
    side and pull the trigger. :-) The key for you I suspect will be
    eyeballing what the calendars look like side by side on those
    differently sized screens.

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    Todd H.
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  2. #17
    Fred
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    Re: Impressions of V3xx?

    Thanks Todd I really appreciated the in depth analysis. Someone mentioned
    the Krzr was considerably slower with the menus, probably a function of the
    memory difference.

    Bob
    "Todd H." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > "Fred" <[email protected]> writes:
    >
    >> If I am not using data (no 3G) is the Krzr esentially a V3xx clone?

    >
    > No. There are a number of differences, ann they're both different
    > form factors.
    >
    > Here's a side by side comparison of specs
    > http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/com...&id%5B%5D=1086
    >
    > V3xx has a lower resolution camera, about half the talk time, one less
    > GSM band. On the plus side, though, it has 3G data rates as you know,
    > 3x the memory of the Krzr (which if you store a ba****load in your
    > calendar might be an issue?), and 2 WCDMA bands that the Krzr lacks
    > (does WCDMA do anything for us AT&T folks by the way?), and the V3xx
    > screen is 240 x 320 pixels vs the Krzr's screen which is 176 x 220
    > pixels. That screen size and memory may be what sways you for your
    > calendaring desires.
    >
    > Only you and your eyes and hands with the two in front of you will
    > help you decide, I suspect.
    >
    >> Are there any other advantages to the V3xx (I do plan on extensive use
    >> of the appt. calendar).

    >
    > Is there an AT&T store near you that carries both that might have two
    > working demo models that you can compare side by side?
    >
    > Seems it's time to stop researching and time to get two of em side by
    > side and pull the trigger. :-) The key for you I suspect will be
    > eyeballing what the calendars look like side by side on those
    > differently sized screens.
    >
    > --
    > Todd H.
    > http://toddh.net/





  3. #18
    Todd H.
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    Re: Impressions of V3xx?

    "Fred" <[email protected]> writes:

    > Thanks Todd I really appreciated the in depth analysis. Someone
    > mentioned the Krzr was considerably slower with the menus, probably a
    > function of the memory difference.


    I haven't had my hands on a v3xx for any extended period, but yeah,
    the Krazr's menu's can be a little laggy. Not at all as bad as the
    v3c I had before, but still not as zippy as any of the NOkia's I've
    had (then again none of those were Java-fied or fancy though).

    I suspect the difference has less to do with memory and much more to
    do with the v3xx probably having a faster processor. But with that
    comment I'm at the outer reaches of my knowledge of these embedded
    platforms.

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    Todd H.
    http://toddh.net/



  4. #19
    Dennis Ferguson
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    Re: Impressions of V3xx?

    On 2007-11-11, Todd H. <[email protected]> wrote:
    > calendar might be an issue?), and 2 WCDMA bands that the Krzr lacks
    > (does WCDMA do anything for us AT&T folks by the way?), and the V3xx
    > screen is 240 x 320 pixels vs the Krzr's screen which is 176 x 220
    > pixels. That screen size and memory may be what sways you for your
    > calendaring desires.


    WCDMA is the 3G modulation.

    If the European V3xx is any indication, 3G reception on the V3xx
    may be none too good. I spent a few hours yesterday in a maginal
    3G area, and when I got around to looking the phone had run its
    battery (fully charged in the morning) down to the red zone, was
    showing a connection to the carrier at 0 bars, and wouldn't
    actually complete a call. Forcing it to switch to the carrier's
    GSM network (why it wouldn't do that itself is another small
    mystery to me) got it back to 4 bars, but it soon turned itself off
    because of the battery.

    My wife was carrying another 3G phone with service from the same
    carrier. That phone is a very cheap, very ugly Samsung that the
    carrier gave me for free in return for signing an 18-month, $15/month
    contract. It had a mostly full battery, showed two bars of 3G signal
    where the V3xx had none, and could complete calls where the V3xx
    couldn't.

    This is a bit disappointing.

    Dennis Ferguson



  5. #20

    Re: Impressions of V3xx?

    Todd H. <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Is there an AT&T store near you that carries both that might have two
    > working demo models that you can compare side by side?


    That is a big key. I thought I was saving money by ordering through a
    "corporate discount" site from AT&T.
    https://www.wireless.att.com/business/authenticate/

    It turns out that the difference in price was an upfront discount verses a
    mail in rebate down to the same price.

    By ordering online, I got the joy of talking to clueless order takers, and
    possibly giving up on the V3xx and going to Nokia because of one bad V3xx
    sample, which I thought was a model problem. The online folks are really
    clueless.

    Later, visiting a local store to correct problems with the way the online
    order was performed, I was met by friendly knowledgeable staff. They were
    very helpful, even though they got nothing out of the deal.

    I wouldn't use an online site unless I was sure of what I wanted, and if
    there is a variance from one unit to the next as bad as has been suggested
    for my V3xx, that doesn't sound like a good idea even then, unless you are
    in such a good signal area that a poor unit wouldn't be noticed.


    You should visit the "authenticate" site though, as the discount, if it
    exists, can be applied to your ongoing monthly charges.

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  6. #21
    striperx3
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    Re: Impressions of V3xx?

    I've had great luck with my xx over the past year. Much better reception, camera, video and the 3G is fast.

    Great for MP3's in stereo BT, 2gb card is great for MP3's and picts/ videos.

    Neil S.



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