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  1. #61
    Jack Johnson
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network

    On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:30:20 GMT, DTC <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Jack Johnson wrote:
    >> What is Apple going to do when thousands of people need their
    >> batteries replaced around the same time and these people start
    >> complaining about not being able to use their phone while they ship it
    >> to Apple for a battery replacement?

    >
    >An iPhone owner told me he gets a loaner.


    At whose expense? Is Apple or AT&T going to pay for the replacement
    while the customer ships it off to Apple?



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  2. #62
    Tim Smith
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network

    On 2007-12-17, DTC <[email protected]> wrote:
    > A good test of the connection speeds would be to tether both to laptop.
    >
    > Oh wait...can the iPhone even do that?


    Yes. It takes a slight bit of work to set up, though.



  3. #63
    Michael N. Paris
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network


    > You can view a video on YouTube of the iPhone loading faster,
    > displaying faster on EDGE network than a 3G phone. Why, the hardware
    > and fast memory made the difference. The iphone even now on EDGE is
    > better than many crap Smartphones loaded with a carriers bloadtware
    > and crippled on a faster network. That would make many non iPhone
    > owners in a two year contract CRY.


    I guess you're the Slowsky Turtle from the Comcast commerical, my N95-3
    breezes alot faster on 3g on a bad day, then an iphone on a good day.




  4. #64
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network

    At 17 Dec 2007 02:23:52 -0800 4phun wrote:

    > You can view a video on YouTube of the iPhone loading faster,
    > displaying faster on EDGE network than a 3G phone.


    Sadly, you can't view it on an iPhone... ;-)





  5. #65
    Kurt
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:

    > At 17 Dec 2007 02:23:52 -0800 4phun wrote:
    >
    > > You can view a video on YouTube of the iPhone loading faster,
    > > displaying faster on EDGE network than a 3G phone.

    >
    > Sadly, you can't view it on an iPhone... ;-)


    I'm watching it now.

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  6. #66
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network

    At 18 Dec 2007 17:07:00 -0800 Kurt wrote:


    > > Sadly, you can't view it on an iPhone... ;-)

    >
    > I'm watching it now.


    Did it make it to m.youtube.com, or are you using that new transcoder site
    that's "free for now?"





  7. #67
    Tinman
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network

    "Todd Allcock" wrote:
    > At 18 Dec 2007 17:07:00 -0800 Kurt wrote:
    >
    >
    >> > Sadly, you can't view it on an iPhone... ;-)


    Strike one...


    >>
    >> I'm watching it now.

    >
    > Did it make it to m.youtube.com, or are you using that new transcoder site
    > that's "free for now?"
    >


    Strike two...

    WTF? The iPhone doesn't use m.youtube.com and the video in question has been
    playable on the iPhone since it was released--even via EDGE. No need for
    "that new transcoder site."


    --
    Mike




  8. #68
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network

    At 19 Dec 2007 03:59:19 -0700 Tinman wrote:

    > Strike one...
    >
    >
    > >>
    > >> I'm watching it now.

    > >
    > > Did it make it to m.youtube.com, or are you using that new transcoder
    > > site
    > > that's "free for now?"
    > >

    >
    > Strike two...
    >
    > WTF? The iPhone doesn't use m.youtube.com


    I realize that, but at the time of the iPhone launch, the videos the iPhone
    was able to play roughly tracked the videos available on m.youtube.com. I
    just assumed (knowing full well the risks of ASSuming!) that YouTube was
    converting their "library" to both formats (iPhone's h.264 and
    m.youtube's .3gp) simultaneously.

    > and the video in question
    > has been playable on the iPhone since it was released--even via EDGE.
    > No need for "that new transcoder site."


    Interesting- so do you know if YouTube's conversion is complete, or are all
    new videos offered in the iPhone's format while older videos are processed
    over time?

    My apologies to the iPhone, and thanks for the correction.






  9. #69
    Tinman
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network

    Todd Allcock wrote:
    > At 19 Dec 2007 03:59:19 -0700 Tinman wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> WTF? The iPhone doesn't use m.youtube.com

    >
    > I realize that, but at the time of the iPhone launch, the videos the
    > iPhone was able to play roughly tracked the videos available on
    > m.youtube.com. I just assumed (knowing full well the risks of
    > ASSuming!) that YouTube was converting their "library" to both
    > formats (iPhone's h.264 and
    > m.youtube's .3gp) simultaneously.


    I don't know about m.youtube's .3gp format but for the last few months I
    haven't found anything on youtube.com that wasn't also on the iPhone. I
    believe YouTube stated they would catch up around fall (with the iPhone
    conversion).


    >
    > Interesting- so do you know if YouTube's conversion is complete, or
    > are all new videos offered in the iPhone's format while older videos
    > are processed over time?
    >


    I assume it's complete, but don't know for sure. I know that my own personal
    YouTube videos (dating to 2005) weren't all available till about a month or
    two ago. Seems to be complete.

    Keep in mind that YouTube does two videos for the iPhone: one high bandwidth
    for WiFi and a low bandwidth version for EDGE.


    > My apologies to the iPhone, and thanks for the correction.


    No biggie. Forgiven. ^_^


    --
    Mike





  10. #70
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: New iPhones to use 3G network

    At 19 Dec 2007 10:56:28 -0700 Tinman wrote:

    > Keep in mind that YouTube does two videos for the iPhone: one high
    > bandwidth for WiFi and a low bandwidth version for EDGE.


    That's a neat idea. On my WinMo phone for slow EDGE connections I have
    to download the video to the device first then play it back from device
    memory, since streaming over EDGE is often jerky or drops a TON of frames.


    Thanks again for the update!





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