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- 12-28-2007, 10:19 PM #46LarryGuest
Re: Rapid shutdown of AMPS within months (Steven Scharf 100% Right Again)
clifto <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Hillary'll do it. She likes spending.
>
>
Remember when Hillary was dead set to make health care available to the
American people, which the Republicans, in cooperation with the Doctor's
Union and Enrichment Company (AMA) squashed.
Notice how you haven't heard her utter a single word about health care
since? Wonder why? Mike Moore pointed the finger at her in his Sicko.
She got $838K in bribes to shut up from the healthcare lobbies.
You'll never hear her talk about it again as long as that kind of money is
rollin' in....as Americans who just can't afford $3200 per injection of
Neulasta, the most valuable liquid on the planet, die.
Don't depend on your HMO, either. They pay doctors big money to deny
claims. ....and don't expect Hillary and the Demopublicans to help,
either. That isn't gonna happen.
Larry
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My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
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- 12-29-2007, 05:39 PM #47marx404Guest
Re: Rapid shutdown of AMPS within months (Steven Scharf dead wong again)
Thanks for this post, John. I have been getting many calls in the past week
from concerned customers about this.
Most don't understand that it will only affect old versions of OnStar. Most
ppl don't keep their OnStar subscriptions beyond the initial free 1st yr, so
this isn't a major issue and as it mainly affects analog subscribers (which
will be in vehicles now 5 yrs old mostly and older) most will have traded in
their cars for newer ones w/in 5 yrs anyways. Statically speaking, most that
would hold onto a 5 or 10 yr old car would least likely be paying for
continuance of OnStar coverage as expensive as it is.
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"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> =?UTF-8?B?U01TIOaWr+iSguaWh+KAoiDlpI8=?= <[email protected]>
> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> Tinman wrote:
>>
>>> In fact it's just the opposite: most of AMPS will be shut down with
>>> only a handful of rural operators--statistically insignificant--that
>>> cling to AMPS.
>>
>> What you don't understand is that those handful of rural operators,
>> while insignificant as far as their own subscriber numbers, are
>> providing roaming coverage to tens of millions of Verizon and Sprint
>> subscribers (and getting revenue from doing so). I don't care that a
>> company like Golden State Cellular has only a few hundred thousand
>> subscribers, they still provide CDMA and AMPS coverage to me in many
>> areas where there is no other coverage at all. GSM users are SOL in
>> those areas.
>>
>
> And ALL of that problem lays directly on the shoulders of the FCC who
> refuse to enforce their own regulations when they hand out a license to
> these thieves. There's no enforcement when SELLular lies or simply
> refuses to respond to poor coverage issues where it's not particularly
> profitable, something ONLY the FCC can force them to do.
>
> Some powerful organization needs to take a very investigative look at the
> money flowing up this pyramid from the carriers on the bottom through the
> FCC to the damned politicians. The whole thing is corrupt to the core.
>
> Larry
> --
> I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
> My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
> Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?
- 01-24-2008, 09:53 PM #48John NavasGuest
NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7199659.stm>
Using a mobile phone before going to bed could stop you getting a
decent night's sleep, research suggests.
The study, funded by mobile phone companies, suggests radiation from
the handset can cause insomnia, headaches and confusion.
It may also cut our amount of deep sleep - interfering with the
body's ability to refresh itself.
The study was carried out by Sweden's Karolinska Institute and Wayne
State University in the US.
Funded by the Mobile Manufacturers Forum, the scientists studied 35
men and 36 women aged between 18 and 45.
Some were exposed to radiation equivalent to that received when using
a mobile phone, others were placed in the same conditions, but given
only "sham" exposure.
Those exposed to radiation took longer to enter the first of the
deeper stages of sleep, and spent less time in the deepest one.
The scientists concluded: "The study indicates that during laboratory
exposure to 884 MHz wireless signals components of sleep believed to
be important for recovery from daily wear and tear are adversely
affected."
Researcher Professor Bengt Arnetz said: "The study strongly suggests
that mobile phone use is associated with specific changes in the
areas of the brain responsible for activating and coordinating the
stress system."
Another theory is that radiation may disrupt production of the
hormone melatonin, which controls the body's internal rhythms.
[MORE]
- 01-24-2008, 10:53 PM #49JerGuest
Re: NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
John Navas wrote:
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7199659.stm>
>
> Using a mobile phone before going to bed could stop you getting a
> decent night's sleep, research suggests.
>
> The study, funded by mobile phone companies, suggests radiation from
> the handset can cause insomnia, headaches and confusion.
>
> It may also cut our amount of deep sleep - interfering with the
> body's ability to refresh itself.
>
> The study was carried out by Sweden's Karolinska Institute and Wayne
> State University in the US.
>
> Funded by the Mobile Manufacturers Forum, the scientists studied 35
> men and 36 women aged between 18 and 45.
>
> Some were exposed to radiation equivalent to that received when using
> a mobile phone, others were placed in the same conditions, but given
> only "sham" exposure.
>
> Those exposed to radiation took longer to enter the first of the
> deeper stages of sleep, and spent less time in the deepest one.
>
> The scientists concluded: "The study indicates that during laboratory
> exposure to 884 MHz wireless signals components of sleep believed to
> be important for recovery from daily wear and tear are adversely
> affected."
>
> Researcher Professor Bengt Arnetz said: "The study strongly suggests
> that mobile phone use is associated with specific changes in the
> areas of the brain responsible for activating and coordinating the
> stress system."
>
> Another theory is that radiation may disrupt production of the
> hormone melatonin, which controls the body's internal rhythms.
>
> [MORE]
>
Then I guess we shouldn't leave the cell turned on lying on a bedside
table unless it's wrapped in two layers of tin foil.
--
jer
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- 01-24-2008, 10:55 PM #50Joel KoltnerGuest
Re: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7199659.stm>
I can't take an article like that seriously when it gives no quantatative data
whatsoever. Did using phones reduce deep sleep by an hour? 10 minutes? 30
seconds? And sentences such as, "...researchers said they could not rule out
the possibility that long-term [cell phone] use may raise the risk of cancer"
is a rather meaning statement as well, because you could substitude almost
anything for "cell phone" and have some researcher testify to it.
("...reserachers said they could not rule out the possibility that long-term
Usenet use may raise the risk of cancer!")
- 01-25-2008, 12:50 AM #51larryGuest
Re: NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Funded by the Mobile Manufacturers Forum,
WARNING - The SELLphone industry wants to turn down the transmitter
power output, yet again. It's the ONLY reason for these false flag
ops....to scare them into allowing us to go to 50 milliwatts for more
profits.
One more time, I invite you to boot Google Earth and search for:
Robin Lane, Hamburg, NY 14075
To the west of Robin lane is a field full of antennas for WWKB, formerly
WKBW, a 50,000 watt DIRECTIONAL ARRAY of 3 towers pointing this massive
RF power directly into the houses on Robin Lane.....Fifty THOUSAND
WATTS! I doubt they can even turn off the flourescent lights for all
the induced RF power in the house wires. That's plenty enough to burn
fingers on a chain link fence in those back yards just East of this
massive AM - FM (100KW FM) source.
Did any of the SELLphone industry researchers ask anyone on Robin Lane
if they had trouble sleeping in this 24 hour, 365 day/year massive,
CONTINUOUS RF field? Of course not. If they did they would come to a
conclusion the company couldn't use to reduce the transmitter power for
more profits again....rendering your range even less, of course, than it
is now.
I bet everyone on Robin Lane is asleep, right now, at 2AM ET as the warm
RF field from KB's massive Harris DX-50 solid state blowtorch radiates
through their bodies all night, every night, unlike your SELLphone's
little intermittent pulses to let the system know it's still laying
there, charging we hope.
Bull****.....more SELLphone bull****.
I used to sleep quite well, propped up in my chair at the controls of a
5,000 watt directional array with towers on both sides of the building
while playing NBC network to the city....occasionally missing a local
spot...(c; RF in the building burned your fingers if you touched the
wrong metal things. I think it PUT me to sleep! The telephone
technicians refused to fix anything in our basement after getting burned
from the phone wires...hee hee. Three of the antenna counterpoise
cables went over your head in the basement. We hung our coats on them.
- 01-25-2008, 12:56 AM #52larryGuest
Re: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
"Joel Koltner" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> the possibility that long-term [cell phone] use may raise the risk of
> cancer"
What raises the risk of cancer is taking a vaccine injection loaded with
cancer-causing LIVE virii from the major drug companies, mixed in with the
dead virus you're taking the injection for.
There was a very disturbing video posted on
alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries not long ago on this very subject.
Very disturbing because it had a banned segment from Merck's best scientist
casually talking about it and not realizing he was being taped before a PBS
interview.
- 01-25-2008, 09:05 AM #53SMSGuest
Re: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
Joel Koltner wrote:
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7199659.stm>
>
> I can't take an article like that seriously when it gives no quantatative data
> whatsoever. Did using phones reduce deep sleep by an hour? 10 minutes? 30
> seconds? And sentences such as, "...researchers said they could not rule out
> the possibility that long-term [cell phone] use may raise the risk of cancer"
> is a rather meaning statement as well, because you could substitude almost
> anything for "cell phone" and have some researcher testify to it.
> ("...reserachers said they could not rule out the possibility that long-term
> Usenet use may raise the risk of cancer!")
Dr. Dean Edell had a good laugh at that "study" a couple of days ago. A
sample size of 71!
Maybe it was an effort by the industry to get people to use more peak
minutes, and less "free" night minutes.
- 01-25-2008, 09:14 AM #54StephenGuest
Re: NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:53:16 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk
out:
> Funded by the Mobile Manufacturers Forum, the scientists studied 35
> men and 36 women aged between 18 and 45.
>
Study group not large enough.
--
- 01-25-2008, 09:34 AM #55SMSGuest
Re: NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
Anon E. Muss wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:53:16 GMT, John Navas
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> The scientists concluded: "The study indicates that during laboratory
>> exposure to 884 MHz wireless signals components of sleep believed to
>> be important for recovery from daily wear and tear are adversely
>> affected."
>
> [snip]
>
> So GSM 850 is the culprit. I am safe with my 1900MHz only phone.
Or with CDMA. Much lower radiation than GSM in either band.
Maybe Verizon, Sprint, and Alltel can turn this study to their advantage
in their marketing materials.
"Fewest Spurious Rads"
"Fewest Rads per Call"
"Less Rads in More Places"
"It's the Radiation"
"Least Powerful Network"
(yeah I know that the current unit of radiation is the gray, but rad
sounds much better).
- 01-25-2008, 11:16 AM #56SMSGuest
Re: NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
g wrote:
> I like that. The script for the actor promoting it goes..
>
> "It's the Radiation!" (yawn)
I forgot, "Fewest Dropped Rads."
The CDMA carriers can follow Cingular's example in "Fewest Dropped
Calls" and commission a study on radiation. Then no matter what the
results of the study show, they can come up with some way of
interpreting the study to build a marketing campaign upon "Fewest
Dropped Rads." If they need help in this, they can hire the marketing
person from Cingular that came up with "Fewest Dropped Calls." If the
company doing the study claims that the carriers are misinterpreting the
study, it makes no difference.
By the way, whatever happened to the Sprint and Cingular lawsuits over
"Fewest Dropped Calls" and "Most Powerful Network?" I never saw any news
stories about how these were resolved.
- 01-25-2008, 11:28 AM #57Mr. StratGuest
Re: NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Using a mobile phone before going to bed could stop you getting a
> decent night's sleep, research suggests.
Now we know what's caused your problem.
- 01-25-2008, 11:40 AM #58gGuest
Re: NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
SMS wrote:
> I forgot, "Fewest Dropped Rads."
>
> If they need help in this, they can hire the marketing
> person from Cingular that came up with "Fewest Dropped Calls." If the
> company doing the study claims that the carriers are misinterpreting the
> study, it makes no difference.
>
> By the way, whatever happened to the Sprint and Cingular lawsuits over
> "Fewest Dropped Calls" and "Most Powerful Network?" I never saw any news
> stories about how these were resolved.
I don't know what happened WRT any pertinent lawsuits but I'd have to
say the "fewest dropped rads" may have more merit than "fewest dropped
calls" at least from a technical efficiency perspective.
The fundamental problem with getting 3G and beyond coverage is "dropped
rads", or somewhat more precisely, the excess propagation loss due to
real terrain and environments. If we were on a flat earth with no
obstacles, we'd already have 4G anywhere we wanted it. It's the "dropped
rads" that are preventing it. Typical cell links can have all but one
millionth (-60 dB) of the power that would have arrived in a LOS/flat
earth environment actually get to the phone. Those "dropped rads" are
the difference between 10 kBs (voice) and 10 Gbs (I-don't-know-what
application).
However, the term "rad" or "radiation" is a tough one to market. It's
going to take all that they can muster to spin it so that it is
palatable. The public in general doesn't seem to like words like
"nuclear" and "radiation" that relate to the unseen. Thus anything that
uses them becomes suspect.
The really big source of radiation we all share, the sun, delivers
roughly one KILOWATT every square meter on the earth. It is the
identified cause of all sorts of skin problems, cancers, melanomas etc.
It is arguably a million times worse than cell phones in regard to the
energy delivered yet we absorb it, bask in it and relish the charring
(OK, "tan") it produces on our bodies. In it's absence people pay money
to go sit under other radiation to get the same effect. BUT, mention an
unseen form of 'radiation' and everything changes, 'nuclear' families
and 'radiant' smiles notwithstanding.
g
- 01-25-2008, 02:37 PM #59Richard B. GilbertGuest
Re: NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
Jer wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
>
>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7199659.stm>
>>
>> Using a mobile phone before going to bed could stop you getting a
>> decent night's sleep, research suggests.
>> The study, funded by mobile phone companies, suggests radiation from
>> the handset can cause insomnia, headaches and confusion.
>> It may also cut our amount of deep sleep - interfering with the
>> body's ability to refresh itself.
>> The study was carried out by Sweden's Karolinska Institute and Wayne
>> State University in the US.
>> Funded by the Mobile Manufacturers Forum, the scientists studied 35
>> men and 36 women aged between 18 and 45.
>> Some were exposed to radiation equivalent to that received when using
>> a mobile phone, others were placed in the same conditions, but given
>> only "sham" exposure.
>> Those exposed to radiation took longer to enter the first of the
>> deeper stages of sleep, and spent less time in the deepest one.
>> The scientists concluded: "The study indicates that during laboratory
>> exposure to 884 MHz wireless signals components of sleep believed to
>> be important for recovery from daily wear and tear are adversely
>> affected."
>> Researcher Professor Bengt Arnetz said: "The study strongly suggests
>> that mobile phone use is associated with specific changes in the
>> areas of the brain responsible for activating and coordinating the
>> stress system."
>> Another theory is that radiation may disrupt production of the
>> hormone melatonin, which controls the body's internal rhythms.
>> [MORE]
>>
>
>
> Then I guess we shouldn't leave the cell turned on lying on a bedside
> table unless it's wrapped in two layers of tin foil.
>
Uh Oh! Does everyone have their tin foil hat withing reach? ;-)
- 01-25-2008, 03:38 PM #60cliftoGuest
Re: NEWS: Mobiles linked to disturbed sleep
g wrote:
> The really big source of radiation we all share, the sun, delivers
> roughly one KILOWATT every square meter on the earth. It is the
> identified cause of all sorts of skin problems, cancers, melanomas etc.
Nonsense. All cancer is caused by smoking.
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