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- 01-16-2008, 09:04 PM #61DTCGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
John Navas wrote:
> The statement about $500 was wrong. What are you claiming now?
> Specifics and URL please.
Golly, it sure looks like $500 to me. What are YOU claiming?
Specifics PLEASE.
>> Set up a simple HTTP server
> On what service? That works on some; not on others.
I just named one, http.
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- 01-16-2008, 09:07 PM #62John NavasGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:48:11 -0800, Kurt <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Todd H.) wrote:
>> Errrrk. As Trebek would say "Sore-y, that was an incorrect response."
>>
>> Last year this time, we had a month full of disclosures on Apple problems:
>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2084092,00.asp
>>
>> http://www.news.com/Mac%20malware%20...49_3-5700982.h
>> tml
>> http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA06-132A.html
>>
>> and many others.
>>
>> Just because OS X isn't nearly the petri dish that Windows has been
>> (and seems to be the consumer OS with the least problems), it's FAR
>> from invulnerable. Anyone thinking security is a product, or a
>> platform is a fool. Anyone clicking on any ole tinyurl that comes
>> down the pike is also asking to be owned.
>>
>> And oh look, another Quicktime flaw. HOpe you don't have the
>> Quicktime plugin enabled on your mac. Ooops. It ships that way.
>> http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA06-132A.html
>>
>LOL. A 2006 "government alert" Is this the best you can you?
>It's 2008 and there have been more than a few QT updates since then.
>
>Oh, you don't have a Mac, do you?
Quicktime Player buffer overflow bug
10 Jan 2008
<http://aluigi.altervista.org/adv/quicktimebof-adv.txt>
US-CERT Vulnerability Note VU#112179
Apple QuickTime RTSP Response message Reason-Phrase buffer overflow
vulnerability
<http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/112179>
"Mac lambs line up for slaughter"
<http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/16/mac_malware_concern/>
That would be you apparently.
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- 01-16-2008, 09:08 PM #63John NavasGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:43:01 -0800, Kurt <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Kurt <[email protected]> wrote in news:labolide-98399E.14563516012008
>> @news.giganews.com:
>>
>> > For browsers, no spyware/malware on Macs. Good start.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> You gotta stop reading the SALES BROCHURES and start reading:
>>
>> http://www.securemac.com/
>> http://www.unwantedlinks.com/macsupport.htm
>> http://forums.maddoktor2.com/index.php?showforum=24
>> http://www.squidoo.com/spyware-mac-free
>>
>> Of course, there is a solution:
>> http://www.symantec.com/norton/produ...&pvid=nis30mac
>
>Tough when you don't actually own one, isn't it.
>
>I (unlike you) actually own a few Macs (20 years and no PCs), and aside
>from the firewall of my 5 year old Linksys router, have nothing but the
>Mac default protection in place.
>
>There are NO truly malicious viruses that infect Mac OSX.
"Mac lambs line up for slaughter"
<http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/16/mac_malware_concern/>
That would be you apparently.
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- 01-16-2008, 09:24 PM #64John NavasGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:04:43 GMT, DTC <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:
>John Navas wrote:
>> The statement about $500 was wrong. What are you claiming now?
>> Specifics and URL please.
>
>Golly, it sure looks like $500 to me. What are YOU claiming?
>Specifics PLEASE.
>
>>> Set up a simple HTTP server
>> On what service? That works on some; not on others.
>
>I just named one, http.
$500 is for static public IP. If you don't know the difference, then
you're out of your depth.
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- 01-16-2008, 09:45 PM #65DTCGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
DTC wrote:
> a) Having just ONE user running several BitTorrent session can bring an
> unmanaged network to its knees, now THAT is abhorrent.
Hey...that rhymes! BitTorrent - Abhorrent
- 01-16-2008, 09:52 PM #66DTCGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
John Navas wrote:
> $500 is for static public IP. If you don't know the difference, then
> you're out of your depth.
As I said before,
My point is - you have to pay much extra if you want to run a
server [or any other applicable use] behind an AT&T wireless device,
may it be a tethered handset or air card.
Set up a simple HTTP server on one of your computers and connect
it to the internet via your wireless device, then find your IP
addy (www.whatismyip.com); then use another computer to view your
webserver on the first computer.
[added disclaimer - the second computer can't be connected to
the AT&T wireless network. You CAN do it if both computers are
using their own AT&T air cards.]
You can't do it.
If you think you can, "If you don't know the difference, then
"you're out of your depth.
- 01-16-2008, 09:58 PM #67DTCGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
John Navas wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:04:43 GMT, DTC <[email protected]> wrote in
>> I just named one, http.
>
> $500 is for static public IP. If you don't know the difference, then
> you're out of your depth.
What the heck does it matter if you have a static IP or not? You
can STILL run a web server behind an ISP's DHCP server using dynaip.
- 01-17-2008, 12:06 AM #68larryGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> They can do whatever they want. It's their service, and they set the
> terms. If you don't like the terms, don't use it.
>
>
Er, ah, that's not quite true as long as WE are holding the AIRWAVES
LICENSES. WE can REVOKE a license at the stroke of our pens and have the
guns to back up that decision.....(c;
IT'S NOT THEIR AIRWAVES!
- 01-17-2008, 12:09 AM #69larryGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "Mac lambs line up for slaughter"
> <http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/16/mac_malware_concern/>
> That would be you apparently.
>
MAC users reading something BAD that happens to Apple is something akin to
devout Baptists caught watching a YouTube video by Richard Dawkins....(c;
- 01-17-2008, 10:17 AM #70KurtGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >There are NO truly malicious viruses that infect Mac OSX.
>
>
> "Mac lambs line up for slaughter"
> <http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/16/mac_malware_concern/>
> That would be you apparently.
Yes real front page news. LOL
How deep a Google search did it take to dig this up?
Only blog entries?
Don't blame me that I use a system that is so less vulnerable that at
this juncture, there is virtually no real chance of getting infected
with any real virus. Malware is non-existent.
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- 01-17-2008, 10:21 AM #71KurtGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
=
> >Oh, you don't have a Mac, do you?
>
> Quicktime Player buffer overflow bug
> 10 Jan 2008
> <http://aluigi.altervista.org/adv/quicktimebof-adv.txt>
>
> US-CERT Vulnerability Note VU#112179
> Apple QuickTime RTSP Response message Reason-Phrase buffer overflow
> vulnerability
"that **may** allow a remote..."
> <http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/112179>
>
> "Mac lambs line up for slaughter"
> <http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/16/mac_malware_concern/>
> That would be you apparently.
Yes, funny that only deep Google searches turn up this kind of stuff
isn't it?
One virus that may exist and another exposes a vulnerability that may do
something.
Meanwhile, update your Windows box, another 3,000 real viruses came out
yesterday. LOL
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- 01-17-2008, 10:25 AM #72John NavasGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:17:03 -0800, Kurt <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >There are NO truly malicious viruses that infect Mac OSX.
>>
>> "Mac lambs line up for slaughter"
>> <http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/16/mac_malware_concern/>
>> That would be you apparently.
>
>Yes real front page news. LOL
>How deep a Google search did it take to dig this up?
>Only blog entries?
>
>Don't blame me that I use a system that is so less vulnerable that at
>this juncture, there is virtually no real chance of getting infected
>with any real virus. Malware is non-existent.
It seems the title of that piece is right on. Good luck!
Oh, and by the way, I run Windows (along with all many other OSes),
and I don't have much risk of getting infected, but that's because
I carefully practice safe computing, the _only_ sure way to protect
yourself. Not taking such precautions, no matter what the platform,
is a very bad idea.
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- 01-17-2008, 10:25 AM #73KurtGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
In article <[email protected]>,
larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > "Mac lambs line up for slaughter"
> > <http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/16/mac_malware_concern/>
> > That would be you apparently.
> >
>
> MAC users reading something BAD that happens to Apple is something akin to
> devout Baptists caught watching a YouTube video by Richard Dawkins....(c;
At least you can easily find YouTube. You've got to dig deep to find
anything about Mac viruses, and mostly on obscure blogs.
Richard Dawkins, wasn't he a game show host originally on "Hogan's
Heros"? :-)
A more well-known analogy might have been funnier.
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- 01-17-2008, 10:47 AM #74John NavasGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:21:56 -0800, Kurt <[email protected]> wrote
in <[email protected]>:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>=
>> >Oh, you don't have a Mac, do you?
>>
>> Quicktime Player buffer overflow bug
>> 10 Jan 2008
>> <http://aluigi.altervista.org/adv/quicktimebof-adv.txt>
>>
>> US-CERT Vulnerability Note VU#112179
>> Apple QuickTime RTSP Response message Reason-Phrase buffer overflow
>> vulnerability
>> <http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/112179>
>>
>> "Mac lambs line up for slaughter"
>> <http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/16/mac_malware_concern/>
>> That would be you apparently.
>
>Yes, funny that only deep Google searches turn up this kind of stuff
>isn't it?
Nothing deep about it -- information on Mac vulnerabilities is easy to
find, despite Apple's dangerous coyness -- and the list of security
fixes rushed out by Apple is pretty long.
>One virus that may exist and another exposes a vulnerability that may do
>something.
That's dangerously naive. Good luck. You'll need it.
>Meanwhile, update your Windows box, another 3,000 real viruses came out
>yesterday. LOL
My Windows box is quite secure, thank you, probably more secure than any
Mac I know of.
According to Bruce Schneier, "Security is a process, not a product."
But you know more about security than he does, right? Likewise other
security professionals?
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- 01-17-2008, 11:49 AM #75John NavasGuest
Re: AT&T to limit unlimited data plans to 5GB a month?
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:12:51 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My Windows box is quite secure, thank you, probably more secure than any
>> Mac I know of.
>
>I will challenge your Windows box to any new Macintosh, fresh out of the
>package.
You would lose.
>If you're so convinced your Windows box is that secure, then why the
>paranoia?
Prudence, not paranoia, and that's why it's secure.
Read more carefully. A challenge for you, I know, but it's really not
all that hard.
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