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  1. #1
    tdonline
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    Thanks John. My question is what is consider "fast" for an air card?
    I have both ATT and Verizon for cell phone service and I live in a
    large metropolitan area. Both of them get pretty good signal where I
    live. I would pick the air card service over DSL if I'm confident
    that the air card will allow me to watch youtube or an episode of
    "Lost" w/o too much breakup. Or a sporting event w/o getting kicked
    out due to the number of viewers (like March Madness on CBS online).

    Essentially is the performance of the air card doesn't have to be
    blazing fast, but I do need something that allows me to occassionally
    stream videos and music.

    >
    > Both services are fast, but quite a bit slower than the maximum speed
    > quoted depending on signal quality and network load. If possible, test
    > both services in places you care about most, because different services
    > have different coverage. You can't just rely on the maximum speed
    > quoted.
    >
    > --
    > Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    > John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>





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  2. #2
    John Navas
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    Re: Air card vs. DSL

    On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:50:59 -0800 (PST), tdonline <[email protected]>
    wrote in
    <5a07b0bf-de18-428c-92fd-11e6204fa566@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:

    >> Both services are fast, but quite a bit slower than the maximum speed
    >> quoted depending on signal quality and network load. If possible, test
    >> both services in places you care about most, because different services
    >> have different coverage. You can't just rely on the maximum speed
    >> quoted.


    >Thanks John. My question is what is consider "fast" for an air card?
    >I have both ATT and Verizon for cell phone service and I live in a
    >large metropolitan area. Both of them get pretty good signal where I
    >live. I would pick the air card service over DSL if I'm confident
    >that the air card will allow me to watch youtube or an episode of
    >"Lost" w/o too much breakup. Or a sporting event w/o getting kicked
    >out due to the number of viewers (like March Madness on CBS online).
    >
    >Essentially is the performance of the air card doesn't have to be
    >blazing fast, but I do need something that allows me to occassionally
    >stream videos and music.


    As I wrote, the only sure thing is to actually test it.

    --
    Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  3. #3
    David W Studeman
    Guest

    Re: Air card vs. DSL

    John Navas wrote:

    > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:41:58 -0800, David W Studeman
    > <[email protected]> wrote in
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    >>I have both actually but will drop AT&T's HSDPA as soon as I can get out.
    >>HSDPA is viable in two situations, 1: You need mobility or 2: You have
    >>absolutely no other broadband choice. The latency is not bad for HSDPA but
    >>certainly nothing like my Verizon West DSL and no way can I ever get
    >>consistent results and be able to use voip cleanly with HSDPA not to
    >>mention it's prohibited. ...

    >
    > Well duh -- HSPA isn't a replacement for DSL! That said, it does
    > compare quite well to DSL and other forms of broadband. I often get
    > better performance with AT&T HSPA than on Wi-Fi hotspots.
    >
    > My own take is that AT&T HSPA is excellent for mobile use. I get
    > DSL-like speeds with good latency all over the greater San Francisco Bay
    > Area and other California metro areas, backed up by usable EGPRS(EDGE)
    > service in remote areas.
    >
    >> Keep in mind that AT&T is now facing a capacity issue and will soon
    >>implement a 5GB cap per month which may also explain why we haven't seen
    >>3.6mbs speeds yet much less 7.2mbs. The unlimited plan is going away also
    >>for new subscribers shortly.

    >
    > These are just rumors that should be taken with a grain of salt.
    >
    >>When I started hearing about people in some
    >>cities that can't even get on for four hours every weekday, I knew they
    >>were becoming oversold for the capacity.

    >
    > While there will always be apocryphal stories with every carrier, I've
    > seen no persuasive evidence of a capacity problem at AT&T Wireless,
    > which is actually well positioned in terms of megahertz per subscriber
    > as compared to other carriers (notably Verizon).
    >
    >>God help us if an HSDPA iPhone
    >>ever comes out. I plan to not be a part of it when that happens.

    >
    > It almost certainly will happen, probably soon, and I'm not in the
    > slightest concerned, in part because the iPhone also uses Wi-Fi.
    >
    >>I've
    >>resigned to leaving wireless to my N95-3 phone and continue using DSL or
    >>FiOS when the latter becomes available in my home setup.

    >
    > Well duh -- wireless isn't intended for home use!
    >
    >>BTW, my patched
    >>usbserial is part of IPCop 1.4.18 (A firewall distro) and I did run my
    >>network on HSDPA for a few years. ...

    >
    > Thank goodness you're leaving!
    >



    Very nice John. I love you too! And to think that I'm not one of the folks
    that usually hammer on you. What is obvious to you is not obvious to
    others. I have seen far too many folks so impressed by EV-DO or HSDPA that
    they say they are going to drop cable or dsl and I discourage this. You and
    I as well as many other folks know that it is not a replacement for DSL or
    other wired services but will do in other situations. BTW, when I say
    network, in my case it's one user with a few computers and no servers
    running across the wireless link. During my layoff for four years I did a
    lot of Avionics contract work and lived in lodges, weekly kitchenettes and
    took my hobbies with me, cellular data was the only viable and portable
    solution and did keep me connected and prefer to not use a laptop unless it
    has a huge screen and I have a better keyboard and mouse attached.


    Dave



  4. #4
    DTC
    Guest

    Re: Air card vs. DSL

    David W Studeman wrote:
    > I have seen far too many folks so impressed by EV-DO or HSDPA that
    > they say they are going to drop cable or dsl and I discourage this. You and
    > I as well as many other folks know that it is not a replacement for DSL or
    > other wired services but will do in other situations.


    Any wired solution including fixed wireless broadband is better than
    any CDMA or GSM data connection...BUT if you need the portability,
    then CDMA Rev A is better (compared to the scant footprint of HSPDA).



  5. #5
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: Air card vs. DSL

    On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:34:50 -0800, David W Studeman
    <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >John Navas wrote:


    >>[SNIP]


    > Very nice John. I love you too! ...


    Even though I strongly disagree with your excessive use of "unlimited"
    data, some of my comments were out of line. Please accept my sincere
    apology.

    --
    Best regards, FAQ FOR AT&T/CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/AT&T_Wireless_FAQ>



  6. #6
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: Air card vs. DSL

    On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:07:45 GMT, DTC <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >David W Studeman wrote:
    >> I have seen far too many folks so impressed by EV-DO or HSDPA that
    >> they say they are going to drop cable or dsl and I discourage this. You and
    >> I as well as many other folks know that it is not a replacement for DSL or
    >> other wired services but will do in other situations.

    >
    >Any wired solution including fixed wireless broadband is better than
    >any CDMA or GSM data connection...


    Not necessarily -- my HSDPA service is often far faster than overloaded
    wired or wireless services.

    >BUT if you need the portability,
    >then CDMA Rev A is better (compared to the scant footprint of HSPDA).


    Not in areas I care about.

    --
    Best regards, FAQ FOR AT&T/CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/AT&T_Wireless_FAQ>



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