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  1. #1
    Lenny
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    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...VPVzgD8UF4I400

    "Verizon's wireless arm, which is a joint venture with Vodafone Group PLC
    of Britain, continued to lag behind AT&T Inc. in attracting new customers.
    It added 2 million subscribers in the quarter for a total of 65.7 million,
    while AT&T last week reported extending its lead by 4.4 million to 70.1
    million."

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...d-official-wir
    eless-service-provider/

    "The Democratic National Convention Committee on Friday named AT&T as the
    official wireless service provider for the party's convention in August."






    See More: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT




  2. #2
    RBM
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    Guess that just goes to prove that bigger isn't always better




    "Lenny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...VPVzgD8UF4I400
    >
    > "Verizon's wireless arm, which is a joint venture with Vodafone Group PLC
    > of Britain, continued to lag behind AT&T Inc. in attracting new customers.
    > It added 2 million subscribers in the quarter for a total of 65.7 million,
    > while AT&T last week reported extending its lead by 4.4 million to 70.1
    > million."
    >
    > http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...d-official-wir
    > eless-service-provider/
    >
    > "The Democratic National Convention Committee on Friday named AT&T as the
    > official wireless service provider for the party's convention in August."
    >
    >
    >






  3. #3
    Diamond Dave
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:30:48 -0800, Scott in SoCal
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I switched from Verizon Wireless to Cingular (now AT&T) 5 years ago,
    >and haven't regretted it for a moment. Looks like lots of other people
    >are doing the same. Verizon sucks, and the word is getting out...


    Funny, I did the opposite and never looked back. Stinkular/at&t still
    sucks.





  4. #4
    RBM
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    I won't disagree, they do indeed suck. But they also have the best network,
    and at the end of the day, it's a phone




    "Scott in SoCal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]...
    >I switched from Verizon Wireless to Cingular (now AT&T) 5 years ago,
    > and haven't regretted it for a moment. Looks like lots of other people
    > are doing the same. Verizon sucks, and the word is getting out...






  5. #5
    Dennis Ferguson
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    On 2008-02-02, Lenny <[email protected]> wrote:
    > http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...VPVzgD8UF4I400
    >
    > "Verizon's wireless arm, which is a joint venture with Vodafone Group PLC
    > of Britain, continued to lag behind AT&T Inc. in attracting new customers.
    > It added 2 million subscribers in the quarter for a total of 65.7 million,
    > while AT&T last week reported extending its lead by 4.4 million to 70.1
    > million."


    To be fair, 1.7 million out of the 4.4 million weren't "new customers", they
    were customers AT&T bought when they acquired Dobson Communications. See

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/24hjhg

    Dennis Ferguson



  6. #6
    Larry
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in news:elmop-
    [email protected]:

    > I'm using PagePlus Cellular.
    >
    >


    Prepay? Don't you pay your bills?




  7. #7
    Bill
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    Larry wrote:
    >
    > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in news:elmop-
    > [email protected]:
    >
    > > I'm using PagePlus Cellular.

    >
    > Prepay? Don't you pay your bills?


    For many people who only need to make occasional calls, prepaid
    can be a much better deal than the ridiculous minimum plans that
    the postpaid carriers offer. Not everyone spends their life on
    their cell phone.

    Bill



  8. #8
    SMS
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    Lenny wrote:
    > http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...VPVzgD8UF4I400
    >
    > "Verizon's wireless arm, which is a joint venture with Vodafone Group PLC
    > of Britain, continued to lag behind AT&T Inc. in attracting new customers.
    > It added 2 million subscribers in the quarter for a total of 65.7 million,
    > while AT&T last week reported extending its lead by 4.4 million to 70.1
    > million."


    Actually Verizon continues to widen its lead over AT&T in the
    all-important post-paid, retail segment. AT&T adds a lot of users to its
    network, but most of them are the low profit wholesale MVNO customers,
    or prepaid customers on their own network.

    At the end of 2007, AT&T wireless had 55 million retail post paid
    customers, while Verizon had 61 million, and continues to add new retail
    customers at a faster rate than AT&T. Actually it's surprising that the
    iPhone hasn't at least allowed AT&T to narrow the gap, but without it
    the gap would be even wider.



  9. #9
    SMS
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    Dennis Ferguson wrote:
    > On 2008-02-02, Lenny <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...VPVzgD8UF4I400
    >>
    >> "Verizon's wireless arm, which is a joint venture with Vodafone Group PLC
    >> of Britain, continued to lag behind AT&T Inc. in attracting new customers.
    >> It added 2 million subscribers in the quarter for a total of 65.7 million,
    >> while AT&T last week reported extending its lead by 4.4 million to 70.1
    >> million."

    >
    > To be fair, 1.7 million out of the 4.4 million weren't "new customers", they
    > were customers AT&T bought when they acquired Dobson Communications. See
    >
    > http://preview.tinyurl.com/24hjhg


    It's not unfair to count them as total customers, though it's rather
    misleading to claim that they added 4.4 million customers in the
    quarter. Of course next quarter they'll be saying that the net additions
    are down because the previous quarter included acquisition customers.
    Whatever makes the best press release!

    They added 2.7 million on their own, of which 1.2 million were postpaid
    retail.

    They added 1.7 million more by the acquisition, but it didn't say how
    many of those were retail postpaid, and how many were prepaid or MVNO.



  10. #10
    Bill Kearney
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    > It added 2 million subscribers in the quarter for a total of 65.7 million,
    > while AT&T last week reported extending its lead by 4.4 million to 70.1
    > million."


    Great! More users on a ****ty network. If I were stuck on Cingular I'd be
    pissed. That many more dropped calls due to a bunch of pre-pay nitwits
    clogging up the limited tower traffic.

    > "The Democratic National Convention Committee on Friday named AT&T as the
    > official wireless service provider for the party's convention in August."


    Losers carrying losers, and this makes them look good? Puh-leeze.





  11. #11
    John Navas
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    On 2 Feb 2008 19:52:55 -0000, [email protected] (Lenny) wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...VPVzgD8UF4I400
    >
    >"Verizon's wireless arm, which is a joint venture with Vodafone Group PLC
    >of Britain, continued to lag behind AT&T Inc. in attracting new customers.
    >It added 2 million subscribers in the quarter for a total of 65.7 million,
    >while AT&T last week reported extending its lead by 4.4 million to 70.1
    >million."
    >
    >http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...d-official-wir
    >eless-service-provider/
    >
    >"The Democratic National Convention Committee on Friday named AT&T as the
    >official wireless service provider for the party's convention in August."



    Stand by for the inevitable spin by Verizon apologist and resident
    anti-AT&T troll Steven Scharf, whose forecasts of doom for AT&T look
    ever more absurd.

    --
    Best regards, FAQ FOR AT&T (CINGULAR) WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/AT&T_Wireless_FAQ>



  12. #12
    aemeijers
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    Bill wrote:
    > Larry wrote:
    >> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in news:elmop-
    >> [email protected]:
    >>
    >>> I'm using PagePlus Cellular.

    >> Prepay? Don't you pay your bills?

    >
    > For many people who only need to make occasional calls, prepaid
    > can be a much better deal than the ridiculous minimum plans that
    > the postpaid carriers offer. Not everyone spends their life on
    > their cell phone.
    >
    > Bill


    That is for damn sure. I use my cell maybe 10-15 minutes per month. With
    a prepay, it costs me maybe 8 bucks a month. (Don't need it real often,
    but when I need it, I need it.) Cheapest 'real' plan I could get would
    be 30 or so per month. Only downside is I have over a hundred bucks in
    time sitting on it, because I use it so little.

    aem sends....



  13. #13
    Ness-Net
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > Stand by for the inevitable spin by Verizon apologist and resident
    > anti-AT&T troll Steven Scharf, whose forecasts of doom for AT&T look
    > ever more absurd.



    John, have YOU looked in the proverbial mirror?

    Other than the Apple fanboy(s), (and maybe Larry and Skype / Alltel)
    I haven't seen a more rabid supporter of a company - than YOU.
    Well past the point of absurdity.

    Pot calling the kettle black??




  14. #14
    John Navas
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:37:43 -0800, "Ness-Net"
    <[email protected]> wrote in
    <[email protected]>:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> Stand by for the inevitable spin by Verizon apologist and resident
    >> anti-AT&T troll Steven Scharf, whose forecasts of doom for AT&T look
    >> ever more absurd.

    >
    >John, have YOU looked in the proverbial mirror?
    >
    >Other than the Apple fanboy(s), (and maybe Larry and Skype / Alltel)
    >I haven't seen a more rabid supporter of a company - than YOU.
    >Well past the point of absurdity.


    What company? What support? Specifically.

    >Pot calling the kettle black??


    Hardly.

    --
    Best regards, FAQ FOR AT&T (CINGULAR) WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/AT&T_Wireless_FAQ>



  15. #15
    Larry
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    Re: Verizon Wireless getting its butt kicked by ATT

    Pegleg <[email protected]> wrote in
    news[email protected]:

    > And the significance of that is?
    >
    >


    During the convention local ATT users will have poor service??....(c;




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