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  1. #1
    The Bob
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    4phun <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]m:

    > Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?



    No.



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  2. #2
    Larry
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    Re: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

    4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:33a91ac8-1d3b-4705-a226-
    [email protected]:

    > As a ham for many years over the last four decades I and that ability
    > with some rather expensive wide band ham transceivers, then in the
    > last few years I had satellite radio which brought some of that into
    > the car. I now leave the satellite radio at home and when its
    > subscription expires next January I am dropping it all together.
    >


    KI4JE? Is that you?

    It says on KI4JE's ULS record there was no prior callsign before 2004. Did
    you have previous calls and broken service??

    Hey, you gotta put up that FruitFone toy and get off your dead ass to study
    for Extra! They JUST changed all the questions in all the question banks
    so don't buy anyone's obsolete study guides with the old question banks in
    them.

    Let's get that Advanced upgraded....far more important than arguing over
    iPhones.

    73 DE W4 Charleston South Carolina
    (My pix on QRZ is what happens when you run 70KW on 40 meters...a long
    story...(c

    Never knew you were a ham, before....

    Old fart....You're a year older than me!






  3. #3
    Larry
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    Re: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

    4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:33a91ac8-1d3b-4705-a226-
    [email protected]:

    > The iPhone isn't the first device to bring Internet radio to people on
    > the go.


    Far from it....We've been streaming Radio and TV for many years.

    You'll soon find TV in the USA means only locally generated news because
    of the DRM/Copyright insanity of the United States Corporation. Noone
    is allowed to broadcast anything legally.

    I'm sure on iPhone this is another by-the-month revenue streamer....

    I'm having great fun with a new TV playlist that just came out for
    KMPlayer on the N800 called World99TV, a KM Player plugin playlist
    that's actually an app that upgrades itself from our Application Manager
    with the rest. There's some great news stations like Sky News in the
    UK, France 24 (in English and French), Russia Today in English, etc. on
    the huge list.

    A great video music TV station like MTV is from Russia called Mad TV:
    http://mfile.akamai.com/45346/live/reflector.59936.asx
    which sends you to the server's selected reflector. It even plays on
    the slow EVDO sellphone data link, which most broadband TV stations
    won't do, overrunning the 1Mbps pretty bad. Mad TV plays a crazy mix of
    rap, hiphop, rock, some Russian groups, all run by VJs. They have a
    constant contest where you text message your selection from the
    finalists to be the next Mad TV VJ. The videos are pretty nice, but
    with a few boobs showing that wouldn't make it on American TV...(c;

    Russia Today is easy:
    http://www.russiatoday.com/

    Test your link to Russia on a Russian server with RTR Planeta:
    mms://video.rfn.ru/rtr-planeta This one makes the tablet really busy
    with its higher definition video sucking up most of the CPU cycles
    rendering it and just crashes EVDO data links. They're playing a movie
    in Spanish with Russian subtitles as I type this connected to my wifi.

    KMPlayer lets you see a resizeable picture in a window, then when you
    find the station you want, you press the full screen button on top of
    the tablet to bring mplayer, which is the app rendering the picture, up
    to full screen, adjusted to fit the full tablet screen in landscape
    mode. It's amazing how clear the pictures are...but sometimes a little
    jerky on the really broadband TV stations. Mplayer adjusts to processor
    overrun by playing the station in audio priority with frame skipping.
    It doesn't crash, but you see a series of still pictures depending on
    how bad the overrunning is....(c; The more complex the movement, the
    more jerky it is. Then, it seems to catch up for a period until the
    next really fast moving action overruns the processor. Planeta is 8
    hours ahead of us. They just put the clock on prior to midnight and are
    now playing the Russian National Anthem with the new tricolored flag at
    23:56.

    I don't know how many stations are on World99TV, now. I got a new
    upgrade and see more stations on it just the other day.

    Streamtuner is one of the many radio players from Linux ported to the
    tablet. It automates playing Xiph and Shoutcast without the browser
    loading the processor. There's thousands of stations and it has its own
    Bookmark system to save your favorites to for instant access. Pressing
    play and Streamtuner links the station automatically to mplayer. There
    are a few TV stations on there, too, but it's mostly radio.

    Man, the news just came on and there are some major floods in Russia on
    the News....right up over the rooflines on houses! Those poor
    people.... Aha! a huge earth dam failed! Everyone downstream got
    washed away!...bureaucratic screwup I'll bet.




  4. #4
    Larry
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    Re: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

    The Bob <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    > 4phun <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    > news:[email protected]m:
    >
    >> Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

    >
    >
    > No.
    >


    Shoutcast pretty much did that 15 years ago....(c;




  5. #5
    4phun
    Guest

    Re: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

    On Jul 27, 11:04*pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > 4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:33a91ac8-1d3b-4705-a226-
    > [email protected]:
    >
    > > As a ham for many years over the last four decades I and that ability
    > > with some rather expensive wide band ham transceivers, then in the
    > > last few years I had satellite radio which brought some of that into
    > > the car. I now leave the satellite radio at home and when its
    > > subscription expires next January I am dropping it all together.

    >
    > KI4JE? *Is that you?
    >
    > It says on KI4JE's ULS record there was no prior callsign before 2004. *Did
    > you have previous calls and broken service??
    >
    > Hey, you gotta put up that FruitFone toy and get off your dead ass to study
    > for Extra! *They JUST changed all the questions in all the question banks
    > so don't buy anyone's obsolete study guides with the old question banks in
    > them.
    >
    > Let's get that Advanced upgraded....far more important than arguing over
    > iPhones.
    >
    > 73 DE W4 Charleston South Carolina
    > (My pix on QRZ is what happens when you run 70KW on 40 meters...a long
    > story...(c
    >
    > Never knew you were a ham, before....
    >
    > Old fart....You're a year older than me!


    Yes I had previous call signs - all advanced for those years. I
    remember listening to the first soviet satellite in the fifties on SW
    using W3HEC radio. The EXTRA class required 20 WPM. I knew the theory.
    I just never could achieve the degree of interest of say Tim We4U. His
    attractive wife had to put up with some kids following her car while
    holding up a sign with WE4U 2. Who needs a 4 digit call?

    Fellow hams and I introduced the advantages of digital packet radio to
    metro LE and emergency operations years ago during field day exercises
    by operating packet next to their equipment using an old pre Nokia
    800 tablet device, a Tandy Radio Shack 6 line 'computer', which was
    state of the art for very small portable computing on that day.
    Teletypes were favored for hard copy but too big to tote up there for
    portable communications. My friends used Unix and CPM. Microsoft had a
    basic language. I admired Apple but never bought one. Later Atari and
    Amiga offered the best graphical interface. I sold a hacked Atari 800
    for over a $1000 and a year or two later I would consider stuff like
    that junk.

    The reference to 2004 was when I merely renewed it for another ten. I
    have lost interest in ham radio and only use it during severe weather.
    This year I didn't even bother. I have mega bucks in radio equipment
    (including several digital scanner radios) in my desk, garage and car;
    in the car, it is in the trunk unused.

    Cellular radio is a more practical link to NWS in Peachtree City.
    Digital text on a iPhone is far less painful during an emergency and
    digital works when AT&T's voice network is overloaded to the point of
    being unusable . I have full Doppler radar maps, remote video, and
    other neat stuff that only a year ago was impractical to carry at all
    times. All that required my laptop. The iPhone is the first useful
    inexpensive tiny substitute for a laptop, other than your N800.

    IMHO a ham license means nothing today, it is too easy to obtain, just
    as they have dumbed down our school system to pass those who can not
    read or write.

    Most of the hams I know have died or become inactive too - sonny boy.




  6. #6
    Larry
    Guest

    OT was Re: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

    4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:591a50ef-1c7e-4df4-97a3-
    [email protected]:

    > Fellow hams and I introduced the advantages of digital packet radio to
    > metro LE and emergency operations years ago during field day exercises
    > by operating packet next to their equipment using an old pre Nokia
    > 800 tablet device, a Tandy Radio Shack 6 line 'computer', which was
    > state of the art for very small portable computing on that day.
    >


    Wow. Ask around the packet bunch about the ROSE system. I owned the
    packet ROSE digipeater in the Charleston area for many years, first atop
    a telephone tower near St George, SC, then sharing a paging antenna fed
    with serious hardline at 560' on top of a candelabra owned by Dial Page
    in Moncks Corner, SC. It connected to the ROSE system in Augusta, 24/7
    and we had solid links to Atlanta and beyond, if you knew how to connect
    to it. My digipeater was also interconnected at my shack with "Network
    105" on 14.105 Mhz packet, 24/7 at 500 watts to an omni 20M vertical on
    a solid metal ground plane. VE8RCS, the northernmost amateur radio
    station in the world, said my signals on Net105 were stronger than the
    Japanese who dominated their reception.

    There's a reason for being on Network 105. I was the first ASCII
    teletype station in the 4th call district, being on the air 15 seconds
    before it was legal to transmit ASCII at 110 baud, as fast as our
    equipment would go at the time. We had a network of old RTTY ops who
    conspired to put ASCII on HF and were all transmitting in our respective
    call districts 15 seconds before it was legal. Until that point, noone
    ventured above 14.100 into the "Canadian Phone Band" we were not allowed
    to use SSB in by the reactionaries in the FCC controlled by the ARRL old
    farts. That changed that day, dispite intense QRM from Canadians trying
    to drive us out of the band on 14.105 Mhz. ASCII RTTY soon became
    packet radio and is still being used just above 14.100 by everyone on HF
    packet, today. The Canadians soon relented and joined the packet
    community. VE1AMA started Network 105 as a common place for packeteers
    to meet, a sort of calling channel to find friends monitoring the
    frequency. It's still swapping packets, today.

    When ROSE finally died out, WB4APR came on the scene with the APRS
    navigation packet system. I was its first SC station from the 550'
    tower covering from near Myrtle Beach to Savannah inland to Orangeburg
    with APRS. At home, a 24 hour crossband link to 10.151 LSB, just barely
    inside the 10 Mhz new ham band, provided worldwide APRS digipeating and
    crossband digipeating to spread your position and info packets to the
    planet. My 500W HF crossband digipeater was moved from Network 105 to
    the new frequency the day my APRS station on VHF went on the air. It
    remained on APRS for many years before I got bored with it. A local
    club provides APRS digipeating and internet link to findu.com now.

    The internet has replaced ham radio, here. There's just too much
    fascinating new things to do on it. I only occasionally turn on my
    station, listen to them STILL *****ing at each other about being on
    someone's favorite frequency, fighting like kids in a sandbox, then I
    turn it back off for another year, too disgusted to play. Flamers on
    Usenet are rank amateurs compared to the drunken animals on 80 Meter
    SSB...(c;

    I gave all my packet stuff to some new ham kids years ago just getting
    started. One of my favorite ham radio things to do is to give away
    equipment from the dying ham generation to the next generation. Going
    to a hamfest is LOTS more fun if you take a really expensive HF station
    left by some ham that has died and display it at the hamfest's club
    table with a signup sheet to find the "Youngest Licensed Ham" at the
    fest. Noone has died, recently, but a few years ago I gave away a
    $22,000 Kenwood station, HF/VHF/UHF/all modes from the AC plug to the
    TH6DXX/4 VHF yagis/4 UHF yagis on top of a 70' crankup/tilt over tower
    to a 14 year old boy near Columbia, SC. He was the youngest ham who
    could lay his license in my hands, much to the dismay of some really
    greedy old bastards who signed their names and calls to the list. Hell,
    some of them were 70 years old! All hams should pass their stations to
    the next generation of hams when they leave the shack for the last
    time....It's only fitting. Ham radio isn't about collecting money at
    hamfests.

    73
    Larry

    PS - I used to take a 1500 watt Drake station to USS Yorktown (CV-10)
    and operate the club station WA4USN from the hangar deck of the "world's
    largest ground plane", one Saturday a month, to the delight of the Boy
    Scouts from all over the country who were staying aboard. Lots of ham
    radio badges to those kids resulted from the WA4USN operation. They
    were most impressed by the sight of graphite-plated Amperex 3-500Z's
    glowing a dull red running a kilowatt on RTTY on 20M...(c;

    A couple of friends and I ran my home station, KN4IM at the time, in the
    RTTY Roundup, single station, multi-op, high power (1500W). We set a
    new SC contact record which stands today, were 1st place in SC and the
    whole Division and took 9th place on the whole planet.....with a
    Butternut HF9VX vertical mounted in the center of my metal mobile home
    roof ground plane....no towers, no beams....(c;
    POWER IS OUR FRIEND!

    Don't forget - RF IS HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH!




  7. #7
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

    [email protected] wrote in news:bb99bcd5-e200-4a96-ab0e-7d4358664c77
    @d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

    > On Jul 29, 1:49*pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Waffle House, Denny's....

    >
    > Mmmmmmmm...... waffle house. I haven't even seen one since I was in SC
    > on vacation eight years ago. I guess IHOP is as close as I can get in
    > NYC.
    >


    We have 3 IHOPs in the Charleston area. Very expensive with the
    franchise loads added to your food cost.

    I love the way IHOP always puts the pancakes on a plate that is 3/8"
    bigger diameter than the pancakes, themselves, in hopes you won't be
    able to pour the cheap syrup over them for fear of spilling it. I'm
    kind of fearless, when it comes to pancake syrup, and always ask the
    waitress, "Will you be bringing me a plate big enough for the pancakes,
    or do you want me to pour the syrup over them and out onto the table
    top?" She always chooses Door Number 1. Corporate bull**** defeated.
    How silly.

    In all the restaurants they play the terrible music to try to clear the
    dining room. I want a Federal law that says that the music playing
    constantly inside their restaurants dining rooms MUST, under some severe
    penalty, be also playing in the restaurant companies executive offices,
    including all private offices like the CEO's. My bet is the music will
    become vastly improved within 24 hours as it rapidly clears the offices,
    as well as the dining rooms....(c;

    We have a fish & chips place called Captain D's, owned by the company
    who owns Shoney's from TN, I think. Whenever I eat fish there, I get
    the people at the tables around me to play "Name That Tune", from the
    old radio show. The music Capt D's plays is a computer generated series
    of random notes in 6 minute increments with a 1 second silent period
    before it starts again. Most patrons have no idea what the name of the
    song is or anything about it. If you ever wondered what happened to
    those band members who were terrible in high school, wonder no more!
    They work for the Shoney's Corporation.

    When the Waffle House song starts playing, automatically, on their juke
    box, I simply go unplug it, sometimes drawing a round of applause from
    the other customers. Being it's Waffle House, a simple, "We don't need
    that ****!", suffices to get across our feelings towards the franchise.
    They can plug it in after we all leave. Rap doesn't go good with
    breakfast.

    The best time I ever had at a Waffle House was in Atlanta at about
    2:30AM by pure luck. A couple of us were bringing back a boat from
    Birmingham and got hungry. We had been in there about 30 minutes when
    in walks Jeff Foxworthy and Bill Ingvall, the redneck commedians who had
    just finished up a show at the nearby complex. Of course, the people in
    the restaurant, mostly bar and restaurant workers also getting off their
    shifts, recognized them and accosted them for their autograph. Mine is
    on one of my ball caps...(c; This recognition turned into a 2 hour free
    show starting with some guy with a beard asking Foxworthy about "You
    might be a redneck" jokes. Jeff and Bill looked at each other,
    shrugged, Jeff stood up so everyone could hear and smoothly went into
    his routine. "Here's Your Sign" jokes soon followed so Bill wouldn't be
    outdone, then they started telling jokes about Larry The Cable Guy.
    This went on and on. Waffle House filled up because NOONE was leaving.
    It was amazing. We were 3 hours late getting back to Charleston...a
    much better trip full of Waffle House food and redneck jokes....(c;

    Y'all come by. We still take Yankee's depreciated money....



  8. #8

    Re: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

    On Jul 30, 8:57*am, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > [email protected] wrote in news:bb99bcd5-e200-4a96-ab0e-7d4358664c77


    > I love the way IHOP always puts the pancakes on a plate that is 3/8"
    > bigger diameter than the pancakes, themselves, in hopes you won't be


    I don't often have just pancakes at IHOP, but more usually one of
    their "meals" with an omelette, pancake, and breakfast meat. Haven't
    been there in a year or more though (dieting; lost 45lbs so far).
    Never remember having had a problem with the syrup vs plate like you
    describe, I think because the meals come on a bigger, oval plate.

    > In all the restaurants they play the terrible music to try to clear the
    > dining room. *I want a Federal law that says that the music playing


    Well, you expect muzak when you walk into a "family" restaurant. I
    filter that crap out. But what I can't enjoy is bars full of TV sets
    and/or skull-pounding loud music. When I become a billionaire I'm
    going to open a bar with wood paneling, a pool table, and NO TV SETS.
    Maybe a jukebox, but if so it'll be a '60s vintage 45rpm jukebox with
    nothing newer than 1970 and no huge subwoofers all over the bar; just
    the speakers in the box.

    And I'm going to buy an entire town, if necessary, so I can have an
    exception to the no-smoking laws. I don't smoke myself; never have,
    never will, but a bar just isn't the same without smokers. And I also
    want a pocket away from NYC's "no dogs" laws, because again a bar just
    isn't the same without a dog or two curled around some old-timer's bar
    stool.

    > Y'all come by. *We still take Yankee's depreciated money....


    I haven't been to Texas since 2001 (02 ?) I was in Austin but didn't
    get to see any of it, really. I keep meaning to come back if only to
    try a "real Texas" steak.




  9. #9
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: Can The New iPhone Revolutionize Radio?

    [email protected] wrote in news:f804e09c-a26d-4a14-8d07-56882f5422f9
    @y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:

    > dieting; lost 45lbs so far)


    My condolences on your loss......




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